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[ER] Patrickzzz:
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--- Quote from: AloisTrancy on October 05, 2014, 02:46:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: [MK Paradox]Patrickzzz on October 05, 2014, 02:04:03 AM ---1:What i'm trying to say is that the cover is a important part of the book. It's the same thing you said about the mind, even tho you don't know or don't admit it the first impression you will have of something it's the first thing you see about it, and that is totally ok as long as you give the content a chance. Yes, i am judging the character design, but that doesn't mean i won't judge the content. It's the same thing to books or even to topics. Someone can make a good point but if it's not an organized topic you won't have a good first impression, a nice cover makes you feel that is likely that the book also has good content. Aesthetics matter.
2: I didn't mean at the middle of the anime i meant when you see an anime description or something and you think "this probably sucks but i will give it a shot" And ends up liking it, or that anime that a friend recommended to you and you don't think you will enjoy it but you do.
3:There's a whole different concept about lower expectations = more likelyhood of enjoying something. That is not a defined rule and it's very circunstantial.
4:Nice to know.
5:I was judging it aesthetically. I'm not in any way making a full judgement of the show before it's released. And as i said i'm actually looking forward to it.

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1: No. The cover. Of a book. Does not. Mean anything. About. The. Contents. Character designs mean nothing about the season and judging it based on those is stupid. Period.

2: I know what you meant. And I meant what I said. I don't read anime summaries. I just watch anime that have been suggested to me or I found interesting based on things around me.

3: No it really isn't. If you think negatively about something, your response to it will be generally more negative.

4: You're welcome.

5: You're judging it based on the looks of three characters. Not they way they act. Not the deck they used. Not the story. Nothing but how the main characters have used. Whether or not you're looking forward to it doesn't matter here. You're still judging it harshly based on how the characters look.


As for Devour, I don't know you or know why you're bothering to try and argue against me, but your first mistake was claiming ZeXal was bad. Secondly, scepticism is different than outright bashing.
Maybe you should try to form an argument that isn't based solely on attempting to sound smart before you get back to me.
What you said, doesn't kill anything I'm raging about, at all. You're right, we ONLY have character designs. That's IT. Period. Which means we have NOTHING to judge the season based off of. We can at most judge the characters and that's all.
And they aren't buddyfightxZexal at all. One of them has a more out there hairstyle, but not only is Aichi's hair /still/ crazier than Chrono's, Shion and Tokoha both have pretty simple hair. So their styles is pretty basic. One character with crazy hair and two with more normal hair. And quite a few people have mentioned that, mr. Devour. You think you know it all, but you really seem to be missing quite a lot.
This art style isn't that different at all. Characters have grown up, but that's all. And the new characters? Only one of them hair a hairstyle even moderately different from what we've seen before. Rather than trying to back up a wrong point, you should focus more on learning about what's going on.
You aren't my mom or dad and I honestly don't care if I get kicked or w.e, so don't treat yourself as above me. Because you aren't. I will never understand the stupidity of "No swearing", but whatever.

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You're totally missing the point. No one is judging the season by the character design, we are solely judging the character design. The end. And your opnion on it it's not absolute, people are allowed to not like it, claiming that zexal is bad or the character design is bad it's not a "mistake". And it has nothing to do with me but i advise you not to go personal in here.

Cherry:

--- Quote from: [MK Paradox]Patrickzzz on October 05, 2014, 02:57:11 AM ---You're totally missing the point. No one is judging the season by the character design, we are solely judging the character design. The end. And your opinion on it it's not absolute, people are allowed to not like it, claiming that zexal is bad or the character design is bad it's not a "mistake". And it has nothing to do with me but i advise you not to go personal in here.

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You'd be surprised at how many people not on cfa are bashing G as "the new ZeXal" from character designs alone.

I still rather think G's entirety - anime and cards - is going to save this game.

AloisTrancy:

--- Quote from: [MK Paradox]Patrickzzz on October 05, 2014, 02:57:11 AM ---You're totally missing the point. No one is judging the season by the character design, we are solely judging the character design. The end. And your opnion on it it's not absolute, people are allowed to not like it, claiming that zexal is bad or the character design is bad it's not a "mistake". And it has nothing to do with me but i advise you not to go personal in here.

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No I'm not, because there are people doing just that. There are quite a few people who are judging based only on the new characters, or lack of the old characters. I can understand judging the look of the characters, but I have seen a lot of comments about how these "Zexal like" characters make people either uneasy about the show or have them thinking the season will be bad because of it.

Claiming Zexal is bad means you missed the entire point of the show or didn't watch it. I won't say you aren't allowed to dislike it because you're free to feel how you want about it. But Zexal is, at it's core, a very very good story with well developed characters and brilliant designs that come together for a beautiful resolution.

I don't know what you mean by "go personal" but I'm not going to let someone treat me like I'm some kid just because they have mod status.

Listen, I respect your opinion, and honestly, I don't have any problem with you. You yourself are not the reason I made that post. I just want to see a show or season where, for once, it isn't judged based on who the main character is or is not going to be and/or what they're going to look like.

Devour:

--- Quote from: AloisTrancy on October 05, 2014, 02:46:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: [MK Paradox]Patrickzzz on October 05, 2014, 02:04:03 AM ---1:What i'm trying to say is that the cover is a important part of the book. It's the same thing you said about the mind, even tho you don't know or don't admit it the first impression you will have of something it's the first thing you see about it, and that is totally ok as long as you give the content a chance. Yes, i am judging the character design, but that doesn't mean i won't judge the content. It's the same thing to books or even to topics. Someone can make a good point but if it's not an organized topic you won't have a good first impression, a nice cover makes you feel that is likely that the book also has good content. Aesthetics matter.
2: I didn't mean at the middle of the anime i meant when you see an anime description or something and you think "this probably sucks but i will give it a shot" And ends up liking it, or that anime that a friend recommended to you and you don't think you will enjoy it but you do.
3:There's a whole different concept about lower expectations = more likelyhood of enjoying something. That is not a defined rule and it's very circunstantial.
4:Nice to know.
5:I was judging it aesthetically. I'm not in any way making a full judgement of the show before it's released. And as i said i'm actually looking forward to it.

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1: No. The cover. Of a book. Does not. Mean anything. About. The. Contents. Character designs mean nothing about the season and judging it based on those is stupid. Period.

2: I know what you meant. And I meant what I said. I don't read anime summaries. I just watch anime that have been suggested to me or I found interesting based on things around me.

3: No it really isn't. If you think negatively about something, your response to it will be generally more negative.

4: You're welcome.

5: You're judging it based on the looks of three characters. Not they way they act. Not the deck they used. Not the story. Nothing but how the main characters have used. Whether or not you're looking forward to it doesn't matter here. You're still judging it harshly based on how the characters look.


As for Devour, I don't know you or know why you're bothering to try and argue against me, but your first mistake was claiming ZeXal was bad. Secondly, scepticism is different than outright bashing.
Maybe you should try to form an argument that isn't based solely on attempting to sound smart before you get back to me.
What you said, doesn't kill anything I'm raging about, at all. You're right, we ONLY have character designs. That's IT. Period. Which means we have NOTHING to judge the season based off of. We can at most judge the characters and that's all.
And they aren't buddyfightxZexal at all. One of them has a more out there hairstyle, but not only is Aichi's hair /still/ crazier than Chrono's, Shion and Tokoha both have pretty simple hair. So their styles is pretty basic. One character with crazy hair and two with more normal hair. And quite a few people have mentioned that, mr. Devour. You think you know it all, but you really seem to be missing quite a lot.
This art style isn't that different at all. Characters have grown up, but that's all. And the new characters? Only one of them hair a hairstyle even moderately different from what we've seen before. Rather than trying to back up a wrong point, you should focus more on learning about what's going on.
You aren't my mom or dad and I honestly don't care if I get kicked or w.e, so don't treat yourself as above me. Because you aren't. I will never understand the stupidity of "No swearing", but whatever.

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Oh boy, another one of those.
To be able to impose yourself on someone and be able to have a valid conversation, you first need to understand the words used. Since, I don't think you know the difference between scepticism and bashing, as well as the actual definition of both. Also, organized scepticism is a term differating from scepticism and is used in sociology, phylosophy and is one of the things that gave us, among other things, the Heliocentric system.
As for your 'arguments', claiming how you're right about everything while providing minimal information that has been restated numerous times kills the argument completely. Claiming how I'm solely trying to eb a know-it-all to defy you is silly. Don't be trippin' on your ego, son.
I'll be deleting everything irrelevant past this point. There's enough spam here, including my own post.

P.S. - The last 2 sentences pretty much kill everything you said. I suggest you try and be as objective as possible. Then, people might take you seriously.


OT:

I've just noticed the difference between the standard Grade 3/4 units and Stride units. There's a red line on the grade box, as it seems. That's the sole clue we get for revealing which of the units who's arts were released are actually Stride units. The white Dragon-thingy is probably a GC Stride, and the robo has to be a NG Stride.

Cherry:
I'm actually a bit confused by the red border since all G units should have it, including Harmonics. I was thinking they're all possibly the G-Assist units instead of the Strides. Or Harmonics was just a prototype. ... Or Bushi just wants some certain cards to look prettier. Also, the white dragon feels more like a Royal and the last robot thing feels like the Gear Chronicle.

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