[BF] Cards That You Think Should be Banned or Limited

[Sirvat]

[BF] Cards That You Think Should be Banned or Limited

Hey, ik the game is kinda new. But as of right now, or their any cards you think should be banned or limited?

Example(Down Below)

As of now I dont see no really over powered cards that I think should be banned, but I do think Roaring Slash Gargantua Punisher!! Should be limited to 1, or 2. Most worlds dont have any over powered ones that can win the fight, if you get your opponents to half life points. This might be just for now, but let me know what you think and your opinion.



Type: Impact
World: Dragon World
Attribute: Dragon
Ability: You may only cast this card if your opponent has 5 life or less, and neither you nor your opponent has a monster in the center.
[Cast Cost] [Pay 5 gauge]
Deal 5 damage to the opponent!! This card cannot be nullified and the damage cannot be reduced.

Rules

Make sure you include all I did in the example above. A brief descriptions as to why,Card type, world, attribute, and ability.

[[ER] Patrickzzz]

Hmm what i liked about BF is that it seems pretty balanced so i don't have any suggestions. Ofc tho im new to the game and haven't even seen half of the cards xD

[HunterSerge]

Honestly, there aren't any Impacts that are a big enough deal to get the ban hammer, especially not Roaring Slash. Running them usually results in a very unbalanced deck and while you may manage to get a cheese win every once in a while with them, it isn't anything significant, especially with Worlds like Magic and Katana having cards that every deck SHOULD run capable of surviving even unnegatable Impacts like Gargantua.

I can see some justification for some limitations on some Dungeon World cards like Tetsuya, Orser Kleinz or Glory Seeker especially back in summer and early fall, since people hadn't figured out to take on the deck at that point and it was still completely dominating the tournament scene. Form a Party is the only thing in Dungeon I think is still deserving of a hit, and restricting it to 2 would probably do more then enough to balance out the tournament scene and take away what makes so many competitive players gravitate towards the deck: consistency.

My main problem with the balancing of the game is the current handling of Spell Negates. You know, cards like Abra Cadabra and Sakurafabuki. When the game originally launched, they were fine, because when you link attacked a player directly the criticals would not stack. However, around April, the rules changed, and in addition to criticals now stacking on direct link attacks, only one chain was allowed to be started off of an attack, meaning a player got only one opportunity to stop an attack. This has caused Spell Negates to become obscenely unhealthy for the game, since if you get link attacked for enough to kill you, even if you try to stop it, a spell negate being dropped means you auto-lose. This bugs me far more then any Impact, and with more and more Worlds getting attack negates (excluding Fang Dragon Declaration, when Hero World comes out, 5 of the 9 Worlds in the game will have them) and the aggro capabilities of all Worlds being steadily increased, this is becoming more of an issue.

I could see this being fixed in one of two ways:
1) Revert the link attack rulings. Reverting the chain rules wouldn't help, as you can't reliably have 2 attack negaters and it still rewards cheese tactics with massive link attacks. I don't feel this would hurt Adventurers or Heroes significantly enough for this not to happen.
2) Add a clause to all current and future Spell Negates (barring Fang Dragon Declaration) that it cannot be used during a link attack, or that it can't be used during the battle phase. Personally, I think this would be the best solution.

[Cherry]

The game's mechanics are unbalanced but most of the cards are actually okay.

Roaring Slash's gauge cost is way too hefty to even be considered a problem in my opinion. The regular Gargantua is much more of a problem for being cheaper if anything. And Demon Lord Asmodai is just straight up discard 1 to annihilate anything the opponent has, and Magic World has insane amounts of recycle power.

[Lucius]

My Grandfathers Clock has restriction potential after all it lets you get another turn. but the wizards of Magic world aren't that good yet, but when they become strong My Grandfathers Clock could become a key Card within the wizard deck.

[Ibuki Kouji]

Type: Item
World: Dragon World
Attribute: Armordragon / Dragon Knight / Weapon
Ability: [Equip Cost] [When you have 5 or less life, put a card with "Jackknife" in its card name with 3 or more soul from your field to the drop zone & Pay 2 gauge]
This card cannot be destroyed, nor returned to your hand, and it is treated as if there is a size 3 《Armordragon》 monster on your field.
Damage dealt to you from link attacks become 2 instead.
[Penetrate] (If this card attacks and destroys your opponent's monster in the center, this card deals damage equal to its critical to your opponent.)

FOR GOD'S SAKE BAN THIS DAMN CARD FOREVER!!!  This is the first ITEM that i have seen in my life which have DEFENCE!!! Hid Defence is 10000.... WHAT ABOUT OTHER it's CRITICAL is 5 and POWER is 10000. Kidding me this is the super strongest card that i have seen in my life!!

[Cherry]

While we're on the subject of Dragon World, doing something about Blue and Green Dragon Shield would be grand.

[Lucius]

@lucky ever had fun with Tempest Enforcer?
@cherry blue and green Dragon shield come with the condition of having your Center, true who cares Dragon world got item Cards and if Gold Ritter is equipped you can say gg but the lack of defense can sometimes hurt.

[Cherry]

Tempest Enforcer is a lot more vulnerable than Goldritter.

I'm not seeing how needing your center open justifies not only a negate but an extra gauge charge or free life gaining. Especially in Dragon World with cards like Dragoanthem and Dragoknuckle. Lack of defense can sometimes hurt, but Dragon World has eight extremely advantageous negates to compensate.

[Lucius]

yeah it is pretty vulnerable but in Terms of battle strength is the tempest enforcer stronger than Gold ritter.

[Cherry]

In terms of sheer strength, Tempest Enforcer wins.

But Tempest Enforcer is insanely vulnerable and has lifelink lose while Goldritter's indestructible and has penetrate with Critical 5.

I'd argue Sieger is better, but then you look at the sheer amount of support Jacknife himself has to get this going.

[Lucius]

yeah but jackknife must collect at least 3 souls which isn't easy even with his Support Cards against a Monster like duel Sieger. But then again if the Opponent gets to call Goldritter before Duel sieger gets to tempest enforcer it might as well be an Auto win for it.

[HunterSerge]

The game's mechanics are unbalanced but most of the cards are actually okay.

Roaring Slash's gauge cost is way too hefty to even be considered a problem in my opinion. The regular Gargantua is much more of a problem for being cheaper if anything. And Demon Lord Asmodai is just straight up discard 1 to annihilate anything the opponent has, and Magic World has insane amounts of recycle power.

Kinda curious about what you mean by that first point. Mechanics-wise, Buddyfight is one of my favourite games ever, so I'm very curious why you think they're unbalanced.

However, going to have to strongly disagree on your thoughts on Gargantua and Asmodai. My points on Impacts in general still apply to Gargantua. It'll get you a cheese win every once in awhile, but cheese wins don't make things like Mystery Flare in Vanguard good, do they? Most of the time, you were in a very advantageous position anyways and were going to win anyways when an Impact wins a game (this isn't true for all of them, stuff like the Secret Swords and The Glorious Legacy being obvious exceptions).

And yeah, let's get rid of Asmodai. Its not like Magic and Katana are SUPPOSED to get more efficient effects in return for their terrible stats. Its not like its just a 1-to-1 trade. Its not like, because of their low stats, these Worlds absolutely need good efficient destruction to not get screwed over by high defense stuff.

My Grandfathers Clock has restriction potential after all it lets you get another turn. but the wizards of Magic world aren't that good yet, but when they become strong My Grandfathers Clock could become a key Card within the wizard deck.

Wizards were actually one of the two meta decks during the Buddy Challenge, and the deck is hardly weak, a lot of Wizard monsters are absolutely incredible. However, restricting Grandfather Clock would be beyond pointless as its very rare to even see it run at more then 2. Its not even broke in any way, offensively its not really any different from Saturday Night Devil Fever, and unlike that card, its conditions are harder to achieve, and requires you to already have your set up.

Type: Item
World: Dragon World
Attribute: Armordragon / Dragon Knight / Weapon
Ability: [Equip Cost] [When you have 5 or less life, put a card with "Jackknife" in its card name with 3 or more soul from your field to the drop zone & Pay 2 gauge]
This card cannot be destroyed, nor returned to your hand, and it is treated as if there is a size 3 《Armordragon》 monster on your field.
Damage dealt to you from link attacks become 2 instead.
[Penetrate] (If this card attacks and destroys your opponent's monster in the center, this card deals damage equal to its critical to your opponent.)

FOR GOD'S SAKE BAN THIS DAMN CARD FOREVER!!!  This is the first ITEM that i have seen in my life which have DEFENCE!!! Hid Defence is 10000.... WHAT ABOUT OTHER it's CRITICAL is 5 and POWER is 10000. Kidding me this is the super strongest card that i have seen in my life!!

This feels like nothing more then a knee-jerk reaction, honestly. xD Legend World has an Item with Defense too, and Hero World's entire playstyle is about equipping monster's which - oh look, they have defense. Gold Ritter isn't a big deal. Consider for a moment that Gold Ritter is actually ridiculously difficult to get out, and its massive attack? Yeah, its just one attack. A single attack negate each turn keeps it at bay. Then you have to consider that the deck effectively auto-loses to Darkness Dragon World, Dungeon World, Katana World and Magic World due to Death Grip/Pain Field, Pillar of Fire/Tetsuya+Dragonslayer, Hades Fall/Star Crusher or Shooting Star, and Begone/Magical Goodbye/burn damage respectively. One of these is THE meta, and one of these is very likely to become a big contender to be a top meta deck. Oh, and Sieger beats the deck pretty easily if the player is smart about how they play, since Tempest Enforcer getting out is pretty much a guaranteed win.

[[ER] Patrickzzz]

I never seen this card before, but how does a item with defense even work? You have to destroy the item to get an direct attack? And in this case it's indestructible?

[HunterSerge]

I never seen this card before, but how does a item with defense even work? You have to destroy the item to get an direct attack? And in this case it's indestructible?

Think of the Item's stats as the Player's stats. Therefore, to damage the player, you need to have equal or more Power to their Defense. Nothing terribly complicated.