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Is skill being removed from vanguard?
WaiterFang:
Well, if you wanna test out how well skill holds over the evolution of the game, when bt16 is completely out. Someone can hold a tournament. Each participant could only use cards from one season of vanguard, and the limit of payers in each season could be limited to amounts that you could choose.
BT01-05: Season 1
BT06-09: Season 2
BT10-15: Season 3
BT16: Season 4
The extra boosters can be included into their respective seasons also.
Since card sleeves are available now, maybe if any moderators are willing to, they could give a reward sleeve to the champion and the sleeve could change depending on the season that the winner represented. Better looking sleeves could be the reward for people in earlier seasons to tempt more players to use earlier seasons.
Incursio:
--- Quote from: FrozenFang on May 05, 2014, 02:06:57 AM ---Well, if you wanna test out how well skill holds over the evolution of the game, when bt16 is completely out. Someone can hold a tournament. Each participant could only use cards from one season of vanguard, and the limit of payers in each season could be limited to amounts that you could choose.
BT01-05: Season 1
BT06-09: Season 2
BT10-15: Season 3
BT16: Season 4
The extra boosters can be included into their respective seasons also.
Since card sleeves are available now, maybe if any moderators are willing to, they could give a reward sleeve to the champion and the sleeve could change depending on the season that the winner represented. Better looking sleeves could be the reward for people in earlier seasons to tempt more players to use earlier seasons.
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No offense Fang, but Season 3 and 4 are going to have an overwhelming advantage over the others.
Even if you do offer earlier better sleeves to players using older cards, the new cards completely outclass the others with Break Rides and Legions.
I'm not exactly sure how to make it balanced but I know for sure that the current rules wouldn't be fair at all. Maybe just have separate tournaments, like a Season 1 tournament followed by 2, 3, and 4. But even in that case it would just be the strongest decks from the respective seasons going against each other, so it would more be like a series of tournaments to go through the history of Vanguard.
The problem is that every season there has been a large gap, so trying to put a normal Dragonic Overlord player up against a Re-birth player would only show the Season 1 player getting demolished.
WaiterFang:
--- Quote from: Incursio on May 05, 2014, 02:15:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: FrozenFang on May 05, 2014, 02:06:57 AM ---Well, if you wanna test out how well skill holds over the evolution of the game, when bt16 is completely out. Someone can hold a tournament. Each participant could only use cards from one season of vanguard, and the limit of payers in each season could be limited to amounts that you could choose.
BT01-05: Season 1
BT06-09: Season 2
BT10-15: Season 3
BT16: Season 4
The extra boosters can be included into their respective seasons also.
Since card sleeves are available now, maybe if any moderators are willing to, they could give a reward sleeve to the champion and the sleeve could change depending on the season that the winner represented. Better looking sleeves could be the reward for people in earlier seasons to tempt more players to use earlier seasons.
--- End quote ---
No offense Fang, but Season 3 and 4 are going to have an overwhelming advantage over the others.
Even if you do offer earlier better sleeves to players using older cards, the new cards completely outclass the others with Break Rides and Legions.
I'm not exactly sure how to make it balanced but I know for sure that the current rules wouldn't be fair at all. Maybe just have separate tournaments, like a Season 1 tournament followed by 2, 3, and 4. But even in that case it would just be the strongest decks from the respective seasons going against each other, so it would more be like a series of tournaments to go through the history of Vanguard.
The problem is that every season there has been a large gap, so trying to put a normal Dragonic Overlord player up against a Re-birth player would only show the Season 1 player getting demolished.
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Meh, good point :P. I don't try to make tournaments enough anymore.
aeee98:
--- Quote from: Incursio on May 04, 2014, 10:15:18 PM ---I do think Legion wasn't the right way to proceed with Vanguard, the mechanic itself isn't really that bad but the new skills on the units are far too powerful that you can't even compare them to the previous archetypes (see Seekers and Brawlers, etc).
Top that off with Legion having a ridiculous amount of power every turn, and you have complete power creep from the previous season.
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To be honest I had seen Legion or a mechanic like that coming to this game. It was quite obvious. The cost though is a small disappointment to me though.
Incursio:
--- Quote from: aeee98 on May 05, 2014, 02:23:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Incursio on May 04, 2014, 10:15:18 PM ---I do think Legion wasn't the right way to proceed with Vanguard, the mechanic itself isn't really that bad but the new skills on the units are far too powerful that you can't even compare them to the previous archetypes (see Seekers and Brawlers, etc).
Top that off with Legion having a ridiculous amount of power every turn, and you have complete power creep from the previous season.
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To be honest I had seen Legion or a mechanic like that coming to this game. It was quite obvious. The cost though is a small disappointment to me though.
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Yeah, the mechanic itself is not much the problem as the skills that were given to the Legions and the subclans, for example the Metalborgs who can swing for 30k/2c with a break ride and force your opponent to guard with triggers.
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