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Butler Cat & Mega Flare
Ren «Я»:
--- Quote from: Sandy on May 08, 2014, 08:02:35 PM ---So basically, when this cat is out, because of a loophole with Legion, he's able to restand the vanguard, who gets a +1 crit anyways for having four of his units at rest, anywhere from two to four times in total? Allowing him to basically check anywhere from four to eight triggers in a row? Now I dunno about the rest of you, but that loop hole, seems like complete crap, a MAJOR unfair advantage. The only thing that I can think of that's a draw back, is that A) they'd have to cut back on triggers cause he's a grade 0 and B) that when he's used up the field is empty, but thanks to Legion he can be shuffled back into the deck to start the cycle all over again.
This seems majorly unfair, some would point out Miss Mist being effective, but the problem comes from the fact that at the moment OTT is kind of left to dwindle so you'll barely see anyone running them. I just don't like the fact that because of a technicality on Legion's part, this cat is allowed to boost a unit that already gets crit off the bat and the only way to seemingly counter this tactic is to kill the cat asap, which works for some clans, but other clans which do not have a retiring method are completely screwed. He can attack multiple times if he is guarded and even if he isn't guarded he's swinging for two crit and the only thing you can do then is hope he doesn't get another. Also WHEN he hits, he can just simply restand a raiser unit. All of this and not a counterblast to be spent. This, to me comes off as overly cheap and not in the good way.
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Dauntless Reverse anyone? or Tempest lol
WaiterFang:
--- Quote from: [T.A] Ren [R] on May 14, 2014, 09:14:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sandy on May 08, 2014, 08:02:35 PM ---So basically, when this cat is out, because of a loophole with Legion, he's able to restand the vanguard, who gets a +1 crit anyways for having four of his units at rest, anywhere from two to four times in total? Allowing him to basically check anywhere from four to eight triggers in a row? Now I dunno about the rest of you, but that loop hole, seems like complete crap, a MAJOR unfair advantage. The only thing that I can think of that's a draw back, is that A) they'd have to cut back on triggers cause he's a grade 0 and B) that when he's used up the field is empty, but thanks to Legion he can be shuffled back into the deck to start the cycle all over again.
This seems majorly unfair, some would point out Miss Mist being effective, but the problem comes from the fact that at the moment OTT is kind of left to dwindle so you'll barely see anyone running them. I just don't like the fact that because of a technicality on Legion's part, this cat is allowed to boost a unit that already gets crit off the bat and the only way to seemingly counter this tactic is to kill the cat asap, which works for some clans, but other clans which do not have a retiring method are completely screwed. He can attack multiple times if he is guarded and even if he isn't guarded he's swinging for two crit and the only thing you can do then is hope he doesn't get another. Also WHEN he hits, he can just simply restand a raiser unit. All of this and not a counterblast to be spent. This, to me comes off as overly cheap and not in the good way.
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Dauntless Reverse anyone? or Tempest lol
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Those skills only activate during your turn though, so unless you allow yourself to take a 2 crit attack or hopefully get your opponent to call cat butler as a rearguard before using his legion, Dauntless Reverse and Tempest can't really do much.
Ren «Я»:
--- Quote from: FrozenFang on May 14, 2014, 11:12:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: [T.A] Ren [R] on May 14, 2014, 09:14:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sandy on May 08, 2014, 08:02:35 PM ---So basically, when this cat is out, because of a loophole with Legion, he's able to restand the vanguard, who gets a +1 crit anyways for having four of his units at rest, anywhere from two to four times in total? Allowing him to basically check anywhere from four to eight triggers in a row? Now I dunno about the rest of you, but that loop hole, seems like complete crap, a MAJOR unfair advantage. The only thing that I can think of that's a draw back, is that A) they'd have to cut back on triggers cause he's a grade 0 and B) that when he's used up the field is empty, but thanks to Legion he can be shuffled back into the deck to start the cycle all over again.
This seems majorly unfair, some would point out Miss Mist being effective, but the problem comes from the fact that at the moment OTT is kind of left to dwindle so you'll barely see anyone running them. I just don't like the fact that because of a technicality on Legion's part, this cat is allowed to boost a unit that already gets crit off the bat and the only way to seemingly counter this tactic is to kill the cat asap, which works for some clans, but other clans which do not have a retiring method are completely screwed. He can attack multiple times if he is guarded and even if he isn't guarded he's swinging for two crit and the only thing you can do then is hope he doesn't get another. Also WHEN he hits, he can just simply restand a raiser unit. All of this and not a counterblast to be spent. This, to me comes off as overly cheap and not in the good way.
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Dauntless Reverse anyone? or Tempest lol
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Those skills only activate during your turn though, so unless you allow yourself to take a 2 crit attack or hopefully get your opponent to call cat butler as a rearguard before using his legion, Dauntless Reverse and Tempest can't really do much.
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I get ur statement but i never once lost to that deck with cat butlers in it when using kagero/narukami lol or revengers only lost once to it ever lol. and faced it at least over 20x
Lucius:
actually if you use a SP deck that Centers 'Witch of Cursed Talisman, Etain' then you could actually stop either crit 2 or cat butler easily
Ren «Я»:
--- Quote from: lucius on May 18, 2014, 12:38:04 PM ---actually if you use a SP deck that Centers 'Witch of Cursed Talisman, Etain' then you could actually stop either crit 2 or cat butler easily
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Well there's always that option of making a Shadow Blaze deck to retire 2 rgs after vanguard atked and then nuke there cat butler and another rg on there side since you choose the 2 on there side and yours lol.
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