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''The Diablo'' Blaster:
I agree with everything about the whole thing. Standing vg with such skill in Legion seems...meh. Whats even worse imo is Daikaiser with Uru Buster and laurel...that's even worse if you ask me...and I think they really need a big restriction.

[MK Hunter] E.T:

--- Quote from: Blaster Abyss on May 18, 2014, 05:11:02 PM ---I agree with everything about the whole thing. Standing vg with such skill in Legion seems...meh. Whats even worse imo is Daikaiser with Uru Buster and laurel...that's even worse if you ask me...and I think they really need a big restriction.

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Blastra its not you can use Laurel once. But what about 4 Cat Buttlers on the Field with MegaFlare Legioned Vg and you are at 5? Will you survive total of 5 attacks?

Magus TSS:

--- Quote from: lucius on May 18, 2014, 12:38:04 PM ---actually if you use a SP deck that Centers 'Witch of Cursed Talisman, Etain' then you could actually stop either crit 2 or cat butler easily

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I like this idea but the crit 2 cant be stoped in most cases once it gets off and it's off way before the point Etain could even think about stoping that bonus crit. It won't even be stoped if they stand their rears with other cards. As for earlier game they will probably just attack rear guard columns anyway to try to counter it letting you preserve. Best you can do is stop 3 attacks or retire a kitty that is not boosting with Etain if your in Limit break.


--- Quote from: Blaster Abyss on May 18, 2014, 05:11:02 PM ---I agree with everything about the whole thing. Standing vg with such skill in Legion seems...meh. Whats even worse imo is Daikaiser with Uru Buster and laurel...that's even worse if you ask me...and I think they really need a big restriction.

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I do agree Blaster. Buster and his support is far worse to deal with then this but they don't need Daikaiser or Laural to work. Laural just insurance.


--- Quote from: Hunter E.T on May 19, 2014, 08:48:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Blaster Abyss on May 18, 2014, 05:11:02 PM ---I agree with everything about the whole thing. Standing vg with such skill in Legion seems...meh. Whats even worse imo is Daikaiser with Uru Buster and laurel...that's even worse if you ask me...and I think they really need a big restriction.

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Blastra its not you can use Laurel once. But what about 4 Cat Buttlers on the Field with MegaFlare Legioned Vg and you are at 5? Will you survive total of 5 attacks?

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So many problems with this statement here I'll start with the off topic one.
1. Laurel is actually more then once. But you have to be able to rest 4 rears for each use. If you can get a double stand on the second set of check with 2 miracle beauty in the front row. You can actually use Laurel again but the odds of this are really low just to make that clear and not practical.

Now lets go into butler and flare.

2. No one is going to run 4 butler and expect to consistently ride to 3 with it. It ruins ratios terribly. The first game it took me 10 games just to ride successfully all the way to Grade 3. When I droped it to 3 it was far more consistently ride to 3. 2-3 is far more solid number to constantly ride and have butler feel like well butler.

3. If your at that point where there would be 3 butlers on the field you probably would have lost anyway since you at 5 damage.
4. Your never going to get more then 2 out at once every time which if you get 2 out it's still op but not broken if you play right Cat should never be a threat ever.

This is just the beginning. Be prepared for more in the coming sets. I feel like they can do worse after all I say again the game is evolving after all.

Kazehi:
It's only considered a "OP" skill because people do not counter the clan directly. To stop the legion's full effectiveness, you simply nuke their field and attack hard enough to take away their hand. Stay on low damage and slam the field until the legion is left with 2-to pass- or take a hit when you can guard everything else. Like with all decks, theres a clear weakness, and once exploited even the mightiest deck falls flat on it's face.

Nova Grapplers have always been weak to retire based decks. Raizer can't generate a lot of advantage, but he can help speed things up. His goal is to swiftly deal the death blow. Your job is to smash rg's and up the damage count constantly forcing guards. It's a hard combo to break ,but I agree with Blaster than Sin Buster + support is much worse a scenario.

@ Tss: You could probably counter the deck using Murakumo based on Shirayuki , completely making the legion attack....guardable for 1 cb, or simply ignoring it, if you play correctly.

Magus TSS:

--- Quote from: Kazehi on May 19, 2014, 09:54:58 AM ---@ Tss: You could probably counter the deck using Murakumo based on Shirayuki , completely making the legion attack....guardable for 1 cb, or simply ignoring it, if you play correctly.

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Your absolutely right. This can work even vs Metalborg. For the ignoring it sake it's just when I look at Metalborg they can gain advantage for simply ignoring it and if played right you probably won't be able to stop them from gaining the advantage anyway outside of shirayuki. Shirayuki one of the strongest counters to legion because it makes it easier to guard or just outright makes it 2 to pass but this is slow due to Limit Break restriction.

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