Butler Cat & Mega Flare

[[MK Hunter] E.T]

That is just a Reply to TSS.
Yes you are right you cannot run 4 Buttlerd because of the consistancy of deck, so you would run 2 or 3. Same goes though for Laurel, running 4 it will detroy your lines (9+4=13, 8+4=12, 11+4=15) which neither of those can be enough powerful against a 11k Vanguard, so I would run 2 or 3 Laurel. Also in order to Restand Laurel and 3 More units to reuse the skills you need Miracle Beauty, and lets say t run 2 of them, which even lowers your G3 Space for 11ks unit (Since Drion,Sin and Daikaiser is a must). So its like unlikely someone would use Miracle Beauty. Also notice that Miracle is just a 10k, which bad as Vg (NO skill and 10k), and not that help ful with Laurel as Rg, 14k nuff said :p

[Rikkudo Ren Sama]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

[Lucius]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

Well i am sry but i don't think that will happen this season so it would be better for us to wait for the next

[Rikkudo Ren Sama]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

Well i am sry but i don't think that will happen this season so it would be better for us to wait for the next

We have yet to hear for further announcements from Bushi.

[Lucius]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

Well i am sry but i don't think that will happen this season so it would be better for us to wait for the next

We have yet to hear for further announcements from Bushi.

Maybe they will add a clan restriction for official tourneys(if they didn't already do so) or they wanna add a Special Card like majesty Lord Blaster or Glendios that only works with dual clanning

[HunterSerge]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

Well i am sry but i don't think that will happen this season so it would be better for us to wait for the next

We have yet to hear for further announcements from Bushi.

Considering Bushiroad has never outright banned a card, I highly doubt we'll see a ban on the card, and it'll still operate well at just 2 copies, just like Descendant did after his own limitation. I don't think we'll even see any sort of limitation anytime soon, because remember, this is very clearly a conscious decision Bushiroad made. I mean, look at the BT16 Raizers. Overall, they're the weakest stuff in BT16.

[Rikkudo Ren Sama]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

Well i am sry but i don't think that will happen this season so it would be better for us to wait for the next

We have yet to hear for further announcements from Bushi.

Considering Bushiroad has never outright banned a card, I highly doubt we'll see a ban on the card, and it'll still operate well at just 2 copies, just like Descendant did after his own limitation. I don't think we'll even see any sort of limitation anytime soon, because remember, this is very clearly a conscious decision Bushiroad made. I mean, look at the BT16 Raizers. Overall, they're the weakest stuff in BT16.

We would only hear about the restrictions once these combos will be seen in action as per se with Dragonic Descendant's case in the tourneys...

[HunterSerge]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

Well i am sry but i don't think that will happen this season so it would be better for us to wait for the next

We have yet to hear for further announcements from Bushi.

Considering Bushiroad has never outright banned a card, I highly doubt we'll see a ban on the card, and it'll still operate well at just 2 copies, just like Descendant did after his own limitation. I don't think we'll even see any sort of limitation anytime soon, because remember, this is very clearly a conscious decision Bushiroad made. I mean, look at the BT16 Raizers. Overall, they're the weakest stuff in BT16.

We would only hear about the restrictions once these combos will be seen in action as per se with Dragonic Descendant's case in the tourneys...

>implying Descendant is a combo
k.

[Magus TSS]

The Blau Ride Chain allows for it. BT04 Ride Chains increase your ride consistency significantly, since for the purposes of riding to Grade 3, you have 3 additional Grade 2s (only 3 because we need the G1 of the Ride Chain a turn early) that we can put ANYWHERE. 17-13-11-9 is the optimal ratio for riding up to Grade 3. So first we remove 3 from Grade 2 due to the Blau chain, slap them into Grade 0.

I had to think about this point for a while and after a while of thinking I can't with agree serge on this point. It's even worse for consistency because now your also relying on a grade 1 to get your grade 2 for free and both take invaluable space that could had been used for your raizers or other things. If you run Stern as the alternate vanguard sure I can somewhat accept that chance if you run butler at 3 and only at 3 but it's not likely to be so since you will run the other legion of Nova to help butler. I don't personally however but still 6-8 grade 3 that can also have grade 2 in the vanguard circle. Ya.... (Thank god Butler is restricted to Nova's)
The ratios run is at least 20 grade 0 due to cat butler and if you want 4 it's 21 grade 0.

As for Frozen Orge well I wonder if people will even bother. Assuming it's be used in mixes. It doesn't feel worth it to me other then the deck thin. Since it has to attack the Vanguard, only works on the very turn you legion.

Considering Bushiroad has never outright banned a card

Epitome of Knowledge, Silvest
Remember it well.

[HunterSerge]

The Blau Ride Chain allows for it. BT04 Ride Chains increase your ride consistency significantly, since for the purposes of riding to Grade 3, you have 3 additional Grade 2s (only 3 because we need the G1 of the Ride Chain a turn early) that we can put ANYWHERE. 17-13-11-9 is the optimal ratio for riding up to Grade 3. So first we remove 3 from Grade 2 due to the Blau chain, slap them into Grade 0.

I had to think about this point for a while and after a while of thinking I can't with agree serge on this point. It's even worse for consistency because now your also relying on a grade 1 to get your grade 2 for free and both take invaluable space that could had been used for your raizers or other things. If you run Stern as the alternate vanguard sure I can somewhat accept that chance if you run butler at 3 and only at 3 but it's not likely to be so since you will run the other legion of Nova to help butler. I don't personally however but still 6-8 grade 3 that can also have grade 2 in the vanguard circle. Ya.... (Thank god Butler is restricted to Nova's)
The ratios run is at least 20 grade 0 due to cat butler and if you want 4 it's 21 grade 0.

As for Frozen Orge well I wonder if people will even bother. Assuming it's be used in mixes. It doesn't feel worth it to me other then the deck thin. Since it has to attack the Vanguard, only works on the very turn you legion.

Considering Bushiroad has never outright banned a card

Epitome of Knowledge, Silvest
Remember it well.

I'm talking about statistics here, TSS. I'm not talking about only running 3 of the Grade 1, I mean that we can only remove 3 Grade 2's before our consistency starts going down because our artifical Grade 2's are actually Grade 1's, meaning we need to get them a card or two early. With the aid of the Blau Ride Chain, however, the ratio 21-13-8-8 will only be a bit lower than the best ratio 17-13-11-9's ~83% chance to ride to Grade 3 successfully. The 17-14-11-8 ratio that most people rely is a bit lower at ~81% anyways, so its a non-issue. As for Frozen Ogre, there's no real reason not to run it if you're worried at all about consistency. The Grade 2 options for Raizers or lackluster anyways beyond Dual Flare, and the 2-4 copies of the 12k beater you should be running. Its effectively used as an additional 3-4 copies of Cat Butler.

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Ah, Silvest, forgot about him. Well, I don't think he really counts, since he had an expiry date on him. xD Its not like he was banned because he was a problematic card.

[Rikkudo Ren Sama]

I'm pretty sure once Bushiroad catches wind of this they'll add some type of limitation to cat butler. (Like only 2 can be in a deck with Mega Flare.)

It would be best if they should BAN Cat Butler when using Mega Flare. It's insane if you ask me. Totally insane. And one more thing: Legions work with mixed clans They should put a specific clan when legioning. It's also insane.

Well i am sry but i don't think that will happen this season so it would be better for us to wait for the next

We have yet to hear for further announcements from Bushi.

Considering Bushiroad has never outright banned a card, I highly doubt we'll see a ban on the card, and it'll still operate well at just 2 copies, just like Descendant did after his own limitation. I don't think we'll even see any sort of limitation anytime soon, because remember, this is very clearly a conscious decision Bushiroad made. I mean, look at the BT16 Raizers. Overall, they're the weakest stuff in BT16.

We would only hear about the restrictions once these combos will be seen in action as per se with Dragonic Descendant's case in the tourneys...

>implying Descendant is a combo
k.

You don't get it do you? What I mean is, Bushi's gonna be deciding on banning this combo or not in decks after seeing it's effectiveness and overusage in tournaments... like in Dragonic Descendant's case... It was restricted because of overusage. Not the combo. Gosh.