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Title: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: colonel830303 on September 11, 2015, 01:22:39 AM
Grade 0(18):

2x New Sharp Knight, David (FV)
12x Crit (4x Taboo Demonic Mage, Kafir)
4x Heal

Grade 1(14):

4x Karma Collector (PGG)
3x Dark Quartz Dragon
3x Knight of Yearning, Branven
2x Night Sky Eagle
1x Black-winged Swordbreaker
1x True Black Sage, Charon

Grade 2(10):

4x Dark Pride Dragon
3x Comet Witch, Sadhbh
3x Knight of Solemnity, Barbelith/Sturdy Knight, Grosne

Grade 3( 8 )

4x Supermacy Dragon, Claret Sword Dragon
4x Comet Witch, Manisa

Stride: ( 8 )

2x Dark Dragon, Phantom Blaster "Diablo"
1x Supermacy Black Dragon, Aurageyser Damned (Ace)
3x Supermacy Black Dragon, Aurageyser Dragon
1x Grim Recruiter
1x Miracle Element Atmos/Snow Element Blizza

The idea behind this deck is to abuse the combination of Claret Sword and Aurageyser Dragon/Damned to generate card/hand advantages while pressuring your opponent with consistent 22-23k lanes by 10k/12k G2 + Quartz's 10k/Eagle's 11k boost. Since this deck runs 12 Crits, the pressure will be devastating considering the fact that your boss strides have extra crits in the first place. Even if your opponent blocks the vanguard attack, the chance of checking Crits is high after all the deck-thinning from Claret Sword so that the rear guard lanes will be very powerful.

Still seeking for improvements on the deck so any suggestions are more the welcome.
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: Rank Up on September 11, 2015, 03:32:19 AM
Vanilla Legion will slow your deck too much every time you will be forced to ride it, imo.If you need hand advantage, take Dazzling Witch, Fiana. It is very good, when you do not have g3 in your hand to stride, as you can use both of her skill is nessesary - legion skill is powerfull field control, but also lowers enemies chance to check trigger, and the second skill gives you +1.
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: Cherry on September 11, 2015, 10:09:35 AM
Sort of surprised you don't have Madu with a 10k Legion here. What's your reason for that?
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: colonel830303 on September 14, 2015, 12:41:38 AM
Vanilla Legion will slow your deck too much every time you will be forced to ride it, imo.If you need hand advantage, take Dazzling Witch, Fiana. It is very good, when you do not have g3 in your hand to stride, as you can use both of her skill is nessesary - legion skill is powerfull field control, but also lowers enemies chance to check trigger, and the second skill gives you +1.

     This idea is actually interesting; however, this deck is already CB heavy since most of the CB's will be spent on Claret Sword and your boss strides to generate advantages. There might not be much chance to use the legion skill so that it will most likely end up being a vanilla legion.
     In regards to Fianna's 2nd skill, normally I can generate enough advantage with Aurageyser even if i misride Claret so it really isn't that big of an issue.

Sort of surprised you don't have Madu with a 10k Legion here. What's your reason for that?

     Most of the time the 10k legion is just my stride fodder or sometimes 12k beater if i need rear guards badly. Only time I would ride it is for the last minute legion if I'm closed to deck out. Most of the time I can ride on Claret Sword first due to the fact that Branven can help me search for Claret if needed. Personally I prefer Atmos/Blizza than Madew for the end game finish power after i run out of Diablos/Damned.
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: Rank Up on September 14, 2015, 03:31:22 AM
     This idea is actually interesting; however, this deck is already CB heavy since most of the CB's will be spent on Claret Sword and your boss strides to generate advantages. There might not be much chance to use the legion skill so that it will most likely end up being a vanilla legion.
     In regards to Fianna's 2nd skill, normally I can generate enough advantage with Aurageyser even if i misride Claret so it really isn't that big of an issue.
But we are talking about the case, where you was forced to ride it. If FIana is in your vg, you dont use Claret Sword's skills, and you use Fiana legion skill only when you dont need to stride or cant do it, or when you need to kill some key RGs of your enemy - other times you're striding. And SP strides is not CB heavy - they all eat 0 to 1 CB per use, and you only need to refill your field somehow to use most powerful ones.
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: XenoSoul on September 28, 2015, 04:17:48 PM
I'm curious as to why your have a Charon in the deck when it's skills are blaster specific skills. It would make more sense to add in another swordbreaker so you can get two cards out of just using stride.

Another thing I think from reading over the other comments, is that if your worried about cb legion I would say go with Ambitious Spirit Revenger, Cormac, due to him being being 11k but also his skill doesn't require a cb, plus if you switched in a few revenger grade 1's you could use his legion mates skill. But that's not needed as much since you have Claret. Also Cormac can bring some good pressure with his skill to give him an extra crit for just retiring 1 of your rear guards.
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: colonel830303 on September 28, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
Small deck update with the addition of some set 4 stuffs:

+3 Dark Quartz Dragon
-2 Night Sky Eagle

+4 Dark Pride Dragon
+1 Knight of Solemnity, Barbelith
-1 Comet Witch, Sadhbh
-2 Dark Knight Maiden, Macha
-2 Cursed Lancer
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: colonel830303 on September 28, 2015, 05:10:42 PM
I'm curious as to why your have a Charon in the deck when it's skills are blaster specific skills. It would make more sense to add in another swordbreaker so you can get two cards out of just using stride.

Another thing I think from reading over the other comments, is that if your worried about cb legion I would say go with Ambitious Spirit Revenger, Cormac, due to him being being 11k but also his skill doesn't require a cb, plus if you switched in a few revenger grade 1's you could use his legion mates skill. But that's not needed as much since you have Claret. Also Cormac can bring some good pressure with his skill to give him an extra crit for just retiring 1 of your rear guards.

1 Charon is there for Dark Dragon PBD in case you run into retire matchup where your David gets popped. You can somehow get away with it since Charon is searchable by Claret Sword.

The reason why I'm only playing 1 Blackwing is because more of it might clash with the soul usage of Aurageyser. I know Kafir is there but you're not guaranteed to get it all the time.

I have tested with Cormac + Mackart legion but I'm just not a fan of it due to the fact that Mackart being a 9k vanilla most of the time in a deck with limited g2 space. That's why i prefer vanilla legion for the possible 10k no pass w/ 10k g2 while having a chance to hit 21/22k with Eagle/Quartz off Claret Sword.
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 28, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
     This idea is actually interesting; however, this deck is already CB heavy since most of the CB's will be spent on Claret Sword and your boss strides to generate advantages. There might not be much chance to use the legion skill so that it will most likely end up being a vanilla legion.
     In regards to Fianna's 2nd skill, normally I can generate enough advantage with Aurageyser even if i misride Claret so it really isn't that big of an issue.
But we are talking about the case, where you was forced to ride it. If FIana is in your vg, you dont use Claret Sword's skills, and you use Fiana legion skill only when you dont need to stride or cant do it, or when you need to kill some key RGs of your enemy - other times you're striding. And SP strides is not CB heavy - they all eat 0 to 1 CB per use, and you only need to refill your field somehow to use most powerful ones.

Yeah I have to agree with Expy on this one considering I main the clan.
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: ryujiknight on November 13, 2015, 08:04:51 PM
Should I add witch stride?
Title: Re: [VG][Shadow Paladin] Weakness is a sin!! (Claret Sword Dragon)
Post by: Helios on November 16, 2015, 05:26:19 PM
Should I add witch stride?

It is an option, but if you did run Sinclair, then I would no doubt go for Blizza. Reasons being is once you get Claret, there is usually no more use for Fiana unless you are really in late game. In which case is why I would run Blizza. Once and if Fiana is not really important, you can use Sinclair as fodder. Also Blizza could be used when in some odd case you dont have enough for Diablo or Doomed's cost and you could save them for the following turn after.

It just depends really if you do or dont think your going to be needing Grimm. Then again, Claret also plusses your field, so I might consider Sinclair over Grimm.