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Cardfight!! Vanguard => CF!!V Discussion => Topic started by: abisme on May 28, 2014, 12:57:31 AM
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I've fairly new to vanguard. Watching some of the anime and played with a friend who is a vanguard activist so to say. He's been teaching me how to play with this and helping me play around & build a few decks. I enjoy the game (can't play it irl, busy + no one to play with xD) anyways I was wondering if there was a proper etiquette guide for playing online with other players.
My friend and I have been speaking over skype so it's easy to communicate but when it's other players a few times people just leave since I didn't do/say something right? I'm not really sure on what I should be doing over chat.
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I posted something kinda like this in the requests section, it'd really be nice if there was a beginners guide (and maybe some volunteer teachers) for us newbies.
Terrible beginners unite :P
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well sometimes people are being jerk instead of explaining things, so what do you need to know actually?
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If possible the abbreviations usually used, when to use them or things I should be letting other players know when playing.
The only things I've figured out so far is "ng" (no guard) and h/s (heads/tails)
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Well there's some things you need to do EVERY time and some things you don't have to worry about too much.
Firstly, also be nice, being a asshat to someone is bad manners no matter what game you are playing.
When deciding who will go first, be sure to ask H or T? or even h/t? (heads or tails), if they haven't asked you that is.
Be patient, sometimes people get pulled away, have lag or are trying to read your or their card's effects. All you have to do is ask them to wait while you read the cards or if you cannot make up your mind on whether or guard or not guard, to say 'deciding/thinking'. Even if they try to rush you, don't let them, you are allowed time to think your moves carefully, just try not to take an hour doing so though lol.
When it comes to guarding and the sort, be sure to use your math skills (or a calculator) and then tell them whether they have to get one or two triggers in order to pass through your shield(s) simply by just saying 1 or 2. Or in the case of a perfect guard, QW or a combined shield that you and they know they cannot pass, then all you say is no pass or np. Also when guarding the only thing you have to say is no guard (ng) or guard (g) and display what you are guarding with.
Explain, you don't want to rush anything because not only is there the fact that you might mess something up, but you have to go at a pace, explaining along the way, who is activating what effect and then doing what that effect says to do. This applies to legion, limit breaking and just singular effects, it's good to announce such things.
Triggers, when you drive check a critical trigger, always be sure to tell them exactly to who that critical trigger is going to. Same thing goes with the +5000 bonus as well. Sometimes people look away or a spike of lag happens and they can always read what you've said and just confirm it that way.
Don't be a douche, I know this was already said, but seriously, don't. Don't blame luck, don't blame them for pulling something cheap, I know, REALLY I do that sometimes it can get you a bit pissed. But no one likes a poor sport, sore loser or callous winner no one likes that crap. No matter what, at the end of the game, say GG (good game) because in the end unless they cheated, it always is, even if they were an a-hole.
Cheating, if you see someone cheating (drawing cards that they should be, pulling off actions/abilities they cannot do, etc) stop the game and explain, calmly 'you aren't supposed to do that'. Most of the time, people will do things on accident like clicking on the deck maybe one too many times or discard the wrong card or forgetting they needs these circumstances to be setup before they could Legion or Limit Break, mistakes happen. But if they are purposefully cheating, tell them you refuse to play with someone who cheats, leave the game and make a mental note never to play that person again.
Reading, They have a beginners guide for basic rules and the terminology and so on, the least anyone can do before playing ANY sort of game (unless your first game is against someone who is mentoring you of course) is to read and at least have a semi-firm grasp upon the rules of said game. Reading also applies to the effects of your monsters, read them over, carefully, because in the end you are going to have to know when/how you can pull them off and it's better to go into a game understanding the core concept and THEN getting corrected, then to go into a game and just muck it up and make the other person explain, in great length about it.
Second opinions, now this forum exist for this reason as well, if you have any kind of questions when it comes to how a match went, rulings about certain cards or even deck composition, never be afraid to ask, most of us here are quite nice and willing to help any newbies. That being said though, it can get really annoying if their questions can be answered if they would have only read the handbook/rule set.
Be friendly! Seriously, this is what can make a game actually fun, having a little talk, a back and forth with your opponent can net you some nice acquaintances or can even lead to some good friends. Ham it up, if you want to, get some emotions flying in there, don't be afraid to enjoy yourself or to let roar your ride chant or yell that your robots are firing off 'mega missiles' at your opponent's vg or anything like that, just be sure that you are having fun without being a pain.
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Well besides the h/t (heads or tails), I always (most of the time) type out everything.
I type out "no guard" and even "drive check" and "twin drive" when I am attacking with my vanguard.
One thing I don't like is people expecting you to place your critical on your vanguard when they don't guard. Though that is the case most of the time, I would appreciate it if people would actually wait for you to declare your trigger.
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Communication truly is key!
There's much to be learned from the replies this thread has recieved
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I completely forgot people are actually still joining the game and it's difficult for them as it was difficult to us older players back in the day when we were just learning. I'll organise something of this sort to help out the newer player base and those who think they might've taken the wrong path to Vanguard. Thank you for stepping up and posting here.
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i think the best thing for new players is for us to fight them so they can get use to the controls.
i made some new players friendly decks just for that, since i sometimes encounter allot of newbies.
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Thanks everyone for some replies. I think I have a better idea of how to communicate moves. Of course I still have to learn how to play the game a lot better then I do now xD
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That certainly makes two of us
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A few things I personally expect from an opponent and even from myself.
1. First of all, and to me, the most crucial is saying "good game" or something along the lines at the end of the game, it's something I always do whether I am glocked (grade locked) or had terrible hands, it doesn't matter if I like or dislike my opponent, it's good etiquette to say good game or well played etc. irregardless of whether you win or lose.
2. Knowing your cards - it doesn't matter whether you're new or experienced, we all misplay now and again (especially me with Great Nature) and it's annoying, highlighting it can be done nicely, don't go "Oy nub! you can't do that!", just say "you misplayed, it's done like this...", a great way to avoid this is just simply memorizing the cards in your deck, not all 50 but what cards you have for example:
G2:
4 Blaster Dark
4 Masquerade
2 10k Vanilla
Granted, worst examples of card effects but by remembering how each card is played and knowing you run at least one of each card, then learn there effects prevents this and prevents you getting abuse.
I'll probably update this with more info at a later date, it's 22:29, I'm unbelievably tired, on a plus note I broke my call centers record for most time on phones so at least I'm in a good mood.
it's probably not the best and most likely covered but I hope it helps.
Local D Bag,
Nick
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Patience is all u need. Wait for your opponent to guard finish before drive checking. Don't rush when your opponent is thinking.