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Cardfight!! Vanguard => Request => Topic started by: ヤタ on May 05, 2014, 05:53:56 AM

Title: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: ヤタ on May 05, 2014, 05:53:56 AM
We were just discussing this in the Lottery Room, would this ever be able to happen?
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: SuperCat on May 05, 2014, 06:43:33 AM
That would be a pretty nice idea....though I doubt anyone would give away their sleeves...some people may be greedy :P
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: xDRen on May 05, 2014, 07:25:38 AM
This is a good idea.. Some people might be greedy but not all of them are, this could help the players that doesn't have their dream sleeves
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: TimPowerGamer on May 05, 2014, 09:10:47 PM
Will trade my DOtE sleeves for Miwa sleeves.  Any takers?  xD

I'd love this.  I think having a shop that you can go to to unlock sleeves would be great, too.  Although, acquiring currency in the game will always lead to methods of abuse.  -_-
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Incursio on May 05, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
I think it could be a possibility as long as you limit accounts to 1 per person.
If it was implemented right now, I believe some people might just make a bunch of accounts, have them sit in the room, and trade the sleeve they win to their main account.

Either that or put a reasonable post limit on the trading so people can't just make accounts and trade to their main. It would help increase forum activity and I think that would actually be more effective than an IP block since there are various ways to bypass an IP block.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: M4tt on May 05, 2014, 09:22:25 PM
I think it could be a possibility as long as you limit accounts to 1 per person.
If it was implemented right now, I believe some people might just make a bunch of accounts, have them sit in the room, and trade the sleeve they win to their main account.


Either that or put a reasonable post limit on the trading so people can't just make accounts and trade to their main. It would help increase forum activity and I think that would actually be more effective than an IP block since there are various ways to bypass an IP block.

I don't think this is gonna happen anytime soon. The registration is still in its testing stages and Rem already said that sleeves were permanently locked to you. So don't get your hopes up.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Incursio on May 05, 2014, 09:24:24 PM
I think it could be a possibility as long as you limit accounts to 1 per person.
If it was implemented right now, I believe some people might just make a bunch of accounts, have them sit in the room, and trade the sleeve they win to their main account.


Either that or put a reasonable post limit on the trading so people can't just make accounts and trade to their main. It would help increase forum activity and I think that would actually be more effective than an IP block since there are various ways to bypass an IP block.

I don't think this is gonna happen anytime soon. The registration is still in its testing stages and Rem already said that sleeves were permanently locked to you. So don't get your hopes up.

I don't actually really care whether a trading system is actually made or not, I'm just describing some possible loopholes/exploits that would need to be fixed if a trade system would ever be put in place.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: M4tt on May 05, 2014, 09:28:04 PM
Lol. Maybe I should have stated that a little more clear. I wasn't trying to target you or anything, I was just using your reply (for reference) so others could know what I was talking about when viewing my remark. :P
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Incursio on May 05, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Lol. Maybe I should have stated that a little more clear. I wasn't trying to target you or anything, I was just using your reply (for reference) so others could know what I was talking about when viewing my remark. :P

I see, sorry if my reply sounded rough.

Even without the trading system, I think the addition of the sleeves system itself is a great addition to the community; I'm sure that with sleeves as rewards, we could get many more people in tournaments and make the central CFA community even bigger.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: M4tt on May 05, 2014, 09:46:36 PM
Definitely!

I really couldn't agree more. In fact, I'm sure they have some type of plans to host a tournament for sleeves as a reward. I'd expect one later down the line.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Kaze Natsume on May 06, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
What are the requirements for getting new sleeves q.q
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: crossflames on May 06, 2014, 04:09:06 PM
Lol. Maybe I should have stated that a little more clear. I wasn't trying to target you or anything, I was just using your reply (for reference) so others could know what I was talking about when viewing my remark. :P

I see, sorry if my reply sounded rough.

Even without the trading system, I think the addition of the sleeves system itself is a great addition to the community; I'm sure that with sleeves as rewards, we could get many more people in tournaments and make the central CFA community even bigger.

True, in my opinion I prefer playing in real-life though. As a result of not seeing many people on this forum, still I would love to be able to participate in such events in the later future.
Title: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Sandy on May 20, 2014, 01:20:58 PM
Now since the system is completely random in which of the sleeves currently available are given to you, there will be some times you get a sleeve you do not want. My solution to this? Allow players to trade sleeves. Put up a 'trade' forum or sub-forum somewhere and have two players post up to agree to a trade, letting you know what sleeve they want from one another. Then all you would have to do is simply 'turn off' or what have you, the sleeves they want to trade from their inventory and then add the sleeves they want from one another.

I have no idea how complicated that is, it sounds simple though, two people posting up what cards they want from one another and then implementing said trade in game. But it's an idea I had running around in my brain. 
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 01:25:17 PM
I second this. Or something that would make things simplier is implement a system inside the game where you can trade them directly. That'd propably need more set up and coding tho.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
yeah that would be good, but how would they actually do that? i mean that would require a program that can trade a specific program, while showing its Contents(because of safety reasons).
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Sandy on May 20, 2014, 02:19:49 PM
yeah that would be good, but how would they actually do that? i mean that would require a program that can trade a specific program, while showing its Contents(because of safety reasons).
I figure it'd be as easy as what 'turns on' the fact you won a certain sleeve and what 'bars' you from using all the others, that said I'm not a programmer, I have no clue how easy or difficult this could be.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Jai Hearts on May 20, 2014, 02:43:43 PM
its a nice idea that we all approve, but is it trully possible ?

sad part about this game that we have all these ideas, but we cant add em all.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 20, 2014, 04:29:49 PM
I want just to mention how greedy can people become, so I donot know if they would trade their Sleeves...
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
I want just to mention how greedy can people become, so I donot know if they would trade their Sleeves...

While that's true..it's not like every single one of them is...that, and also it wouldn't hurt to have the trading system even if -some- ppl didn't trade them.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Sandy on May 20, 2014, 04:54:55 PM
I want just to mention how greedy can people become, so I donot know if they would trade their Sleeves...
Oh please, no one loves ALL of their sleeves, though the main problem I think would be trying to trade them. I mean just because you don't want a certain sleeve doesn't mean you're going to trade it away for another sleeve you don't want. It's going to have to be a 'fair' trade, person A wants let's say the Mer sleeve that person B has. Person B wants the PBO sleeve that person A has. If they agree, they post on the forum stating their in game name and that they approve that they want to trade their PBO sleeve for person B's Mer sleeve. Person B would then post their in game name on there, as well saying that they are okay with this trade and wants to trade his Mer sleeve to person A, for person A's PBO sleeve.  Done.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on May 20, 2014, 05:26:33 PM
It's a nice idea
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Doctor Who on May 20, 2014, 05:54:20 PM
Now since the system is completely random in which of the sleeves currently available are given to you, there will be some times you get a sleeve you do not want. My solution to this? Allow players to trade sleeves. Put up a 'trade' forum or sub-forum somewhere and have two players post up to agree to a trade, letting you know what sleeve they want from one another. Then all you would have to do is simply 'turn off' or what have you, the sleeves they want to trade from their inventory and then add the sleeves they want from one another.

I have no idea how complicated that is, it sounds simple though, two people posting up what cards they want from one another and then implementing said trade in game. But it's an idea I had running around in my brain.
You gotta be kidding me. The system selects the same persons all over again. I stood up from 3 to 8 hours to get a sleeve and persons who come with 10 minutes before the lottery, won or the same person won twice. And since I follow up, it happens that person has at least two more sleeves. Honestly, I liked the old Sprite better. I just modified some files and voila.... I had my sleeve.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on May 20, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
Now since the system is completely random in which of the sleeves currently available are given to you, there will be some times you get a sleeve you do not want. My solution to this? Allow players to trade sleeves. Put up a 'trade' forum or sub-forum somewhere and have two players post up to agree to a trade, letting you know what sleeve they want from one another. Then all you would have to do is simply 'turn off' or what have you, the sleeves they want to trade from their inventory and then add the sleeves they want from one another.

I have no idea how complicated that is, it sounds simple though, two people posting up what cards they want from one another and then implementing said trade in game. But it's an idea I had running around in my brain.
You gotta be kidding me. The system selects the same persons all over again. I stood up from 3 to 8 hours to get a sleeve and persons who come with 10 minutes before the lottery, won or the same person won twice. And since I follow up, it happens that person has at least two more sleeves. Honestly, I liked the old Sprite better. I just modified some files and voila.... I had my sleeve.

Man there are usually about 30 ppl in the room. It's one every 45min. 30x45=1350min that's almost 23h. So yeah it makes sense that you haven't got the sleeves yet. And yes there are luckier people but that doesn't mean they're cheating or the game is cheating for them.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 20, 2014, 10:50:09 PM
This would be a great idea considering the number of players I always hear complaining they didn't want this card yet the other person would like it and situations like that. So, yeah, it's a great idea to implement Sleeve Trading.  :)
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: T-QK Kai on May 21, 2014, 09:20:20 AM
Now since the system is completely random in which of the sleeves currently available are given to you, there will be some times you get a sleeve you do not want. My solution to this? Allow players to trade sleeves. Put up a 'trade' forum or sub-forum somewhere and have two players post up to agree to a trade, letting you know what sleeve they want from one another. Then all you would have to do is simply 'turn off' or what have you, the sleeves they want to trade from their inventory and then add the sleeves they want from one another.

I have no idea how complicated that is, it sounds simple though, two people posting up what cards they want from one another and then implementing said trade in game. But it's an idea I had running around in my brain.

wait a min we can trade sleeve how how how ??? i want to know
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 21, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
Now since the system is completely random in which of the sleeves currently available are given to you, there will be some times you get a sleeve you do not want. My solution to this? Allow players to trade sleeves. Put up a 'trade' forum or sub-forum somewhere and have two players post up to agree to a trade, letting you know what sleeve they want from one another. Then all you would have to do is simply 'turn off' or what have you, the sleeves they want to trade from their inventory and then add the sleeves they want from one another.

I have no idea how complicated that is, it sounds simple though, two people posting up what cards they want from one another and then implementing said trade in game. But it's an idea I had running around in my brain.

wait a min we can trade sleeve how how how ??? i want to know
It's still an idea Kai... sheez... lol.... It's not yet implemented. Just sharin' ideas about card sleeve swaps... or trade.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: T-QK Kai on May 22, 2014, 04:03:43 AM
Now since the system is completely random in which of the sleeves currently available are given to you, there will be some times you get a sleeve you do not want. My solution to this? Allow players to trade sleeves. Put up a 'trade' forum or sub-forum somewhere and have two players post up to agree to a trade, letting you know what sleeve they want from one another. Then all you would have to do is simply 'turn off' or what have you, the sleeves they want to trade from their inventory and then add the sleeves they want from one another.

I have no idea how complicated that is, it sounds simple though, two people posting up what cards they want from one another and then implementing said trade in game. But it's an idea I had running around in my brain.

wait a min we can trade sleeve how how how ??? i want to know
It's still an idea Kai... sheez... lol.... It's not yet implemented. Just sharin' ideas about card sleeve swaps... or trade.

i wish that it will become true :(
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 22, 2014, 04:14:58 AM
Now since the system is completely random in which of the sleeves currently available are given to you, there will be some times you get a sleeve you do not want. My solution to this? Allow players to trade sleeves. Put up a 'trade' forum or sub-forum somewhere and have two players post up to agree to a trade, letting you know what sleeve they want from one another. Then all you would have to do is simply 'turn off' or what have you, the sleeves they want to trade from their inventory and then add the sleeves they want from one another.

I have no idea how complicated that is, it sounds simple though, two people posting up what cards they want from one another and then implementing said trade in game. But it's an idea I had running around in my brain.

wait a min we can trade sleeve how how how ??? i want to know
It's still an idea Kai... sheez... lol.... It's not yet implemented. Just sharin' ideas about card sleeve swaps... or trade.

i wish that it will become true :(
Not all ideas get implemented tho. But let's hope this goes to the works... :)
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Doctor Who on June 01, 2014, 02:15:56 AM
I know this is necrobumping but this should be implemented when all players will have at least one won sleeve to trade with. If it's implemented now then it will result in discrimaination.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: ヤタ on June 01, 2014, 08:32:02 AM
I know this is necrobumping but this should be implemented when all players will have at least one won sleeve to trade with. If it's implemented now then it will result in discrimaination.

Everyone already has sleeves to trade with :x and it's in no way discrimination, it's just giving people a way to get the sleeves they want.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Sandy on June 02, 2014, 03:54:26 AM
Pleeeease tell me this can be done?
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Judgement-Inferno on June 02, 2014, 04:33:07 AM
Of course! Hopefully CFA will put it in consideration, although its highly impossible, given that people can abuse that quite well
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Magus TSS on June 02, 2014, 06:47:35 AM
Hmm... I had to think about this one for a while. A long while. I like the idea of Sleeve Trading. Once more sleeves hit the game it would be a nice thing and if done right it wouldn't be abused. However... The only way we can even trade in that case is if we win a sleeve in the lottery or in future admin tournaments. If they just fix the Dupe the Sleeves issue with the lottery I don't think Sleeve Trading would be necessary thing. It would be a nice thing to add far later sure but unless I really wanted a sleeve because it's something really rare or something I really really want but if that's the case odds are they wasn't going to trade it anyway.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Rem on June 02, 2014, 08:46:21 AM
Pleeeease tell me this can be done?
No ^_^.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Sandy on June 02, 2014, 02:19:32 PM
Pleeeease tell me this can be done?
No ^_^.
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Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: ヤタ on June 02, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Pleeeease tell me this can be done?
No ^_^.
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Gonna allow this because it's perfect ;w;
I hope this ends up happening Rem-niisan~
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Excalibur on July 12, 2014, 09:05:37 PM
I think it would be cool to implement sleeve trading. My brother is a coder and he says it's not that hard just needs time or something :-\

I waited 3 hours battling people continuously and got a Great Daiyusha sleeve which I don't want  :(
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on July 13, 2014, 09:52:43 PM
I have an idea not sure if it was suggested yet but what if we traded in a forum topic? We know it's possible for the admins to manually edit an account's sleeve line-up because of the 100 post forum event, so we could just make a topic like each players post their "Wants and Haves" and if both players confirm the trade in the topic and a admin trades both sleeves in their accounts manually. It might sound like a idea that will overwhelm the admins but i don't think it will have THAT much trades so i think is doable. Besides the trades doesn't need to be on-time they could check the topic once a week or so.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Excalibur on July 14, 2014, 03:42:25 AM
I have an idea not sure if it was suggested yet but what if we traded in a forum topic? We know it's possible for the admins to manually edit an account's sleeve line-up because of the 100 post forum event, so we could just make a topic like each players post their "Wants and Haves" and if both players confirm the trade in the topic and a admin trades both sleeves in their accounts manually. It might sound like a idea that will overwhelm the admins but i don't think it will have THAT much trades so i think is doable. Besides the trades doesn't need to be on-time they could check the topic once a week or so.
Yea but all of them have their own work and there are 1000s of players most of which are already bored of their sleeves or didn't get the sleeve they want. And these admins, their work is hard enough maintaining forum and game, if you add this they'll have a crap ton of work to do. And if they just check it once a week what if the player changed their name or already have the sleeve or some people would be irritated that they didn't get sleeves yet and complain. But just a response I don't really know how much an admin has to do but I imagine a lot. Since there are a ton of requests and all. It would be doable but the admins might lose a lot of time doing that. Again, I don't really know the amount of work of an admin :P
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 14, 2014, 04:19:25 PM
yeah I'd be good at least if people can like msg one of the Mods on this Forum with 2 of there accounts since people change there name and see if they could like transfer there old sleeves from there old account to there new one or at least allow people to change to there name on cfa without having too make a new account and lose all the current sleeves u previously had. (Had like 15 sleeves on old account, Including the Ren sleeves that I got on here that I can't get back now since they're on my old account and impossible to get back on my new one.)
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on July 14, 2014, 04:58:01 PM
I have an idea not sure if it was suggested yet but what if we traded in a forum topic? We know it's possible for the admins to manually edit an account's sleeve line-up because of the 100 post forum event, so we could just make a topic like each players post their "Wants and Haves" and if both players confirm the trade in the topic and a admin trades both sleeves in their accounts manually. It might sound like a idea that will overwhelm the admins but i don't think it will have THAT much trades so i think is doable. Besides the trades doesn't need to be on-time they could check the topic once a week or so.
Yea but all of them have their own work and there are 1000s of players most of which are already bored of their sleeves or didn't get the sleeve they want. And these admins, their work is hard enough maintaining forum and game, if you add this they'll have a crap ton of work to do. And if they just check it once a week what if the player changed their name or already have the sleeve or some people would be irritated that they didn't get sleeves yet and complain. But just a response I don't really know how much an admin has to do but I imagine a lot. Since there are a ton of requests and all. It would be doable but the admins might lose a lot of time doing that. Again, I don't really know the amount of work of an admin :P

Well since i'm talking about a forum sleeve trade most of the players in-game even if they're over a thousand wouldn't use it. If you think about it, most of the players dont even come to the sleeve room the players there are pretty much the same every day. I dont think there would be that much trades. But then again like you i dont know the work of a admin.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Excalibur on July 15, 2014, 03:40:12 AM
I have an idea not sure if it was suggested yet but what if we traded in a forum topic? We know it's possible for the admins to manually edit an account's sleeve line-up because of the 100 post forum event, so we could just make a topic like each players post their "Wants and Haves" and if both players confirm the trade in the topic and a admin trades both sleeves in their accounts manually. It might sound like a idea that will overwhelm the admins but i don't think it will have THAT much trades so i think is doable. Besides the trades doesn't need to be on-time they could check the topic once a week or so.
Yea but all of them have their own work and there are 1000s of players most of which are already bored of their sleeves or didn't get the sleeve they want. And these admins, their work is hard enough maintaining forum and game, if you add this they'll have a crap ton of work to do. And if they just check it once a week what if the player changed their name or already have the sleeve or some people would be irritated that they didn't get sleeves yet and complain. But just a response I don't really know how much an admin has to do but I imagine a lot. Since there are a ton of requests and all. It would be doable but the admins might lose a lot of time doing that. Again, I don't really know the amount of work of an admin :P

Well since i'm talking about a forum sleeve trade most of the players in-game even if they're over a thousand wouldn't use it. If you think about it, most of the players dont even come to the sleeve room the players there are pretty much the same every day. I dont think there would be that much trades. But then again like you i dont know the work of a admin.
But there are new people every day registering and considering there's 1064 total members(right now) if they set up something like that more people wether it's newbies to cfa or to vanguard will eventually find out about the sleeves and want them hence increasing the number of people in the ice castle and more requests for it.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Naomi on July 18, 2014, 11:49:19 AM
I have an idea not sure if it was suggested yet but what if we traded in a forum topic? We know it's possible for the admins to manually edit an account's sleeve line-up because of the 100 post forum event, so we could just make a topic like each players post their "Wants and Haves" and if both players confirm the trade in the topic and a admin trades both sleeves in their accounts manually. It might sound like a idea that will overwhelm the admins but i don't think it will have THAT much trades so i think is doable. Besides the trades doesn't need to be on-time they could check the topic once a week or so.
Yea but all of them have their own work and there are 1000s of players most of which are already bored of their sleeves or didn't get the sleeve they want. And these admins, their work is hard enough maintaining forum and game, if you add this they'll have a crap ton of work to do. And if they just check it once a week what if the player changed their name or already have the sleeve or some people would be irritated that they didn't get sleeves yet and complain. But just a response I don't really know how much an admin has to do but I imagine a lot. Since there are a ton of requests and all. It would be doable but the admins might lose a lot of time doing that. Again, I don't really know the amount of work of an admin :P

Well since i'm talking about a forum sleeve trade most of the players in-game even if they're over a thousand wouldn't use it. If you think about it, most of the players dont even come to the sleeve room the players there are pretty much the same every day. I dont think there would be that much trades. But then again like you i dont know the work of a admin.
But there are new people every day registering and considering there's 1064 total members(right now) if they set up something like that more people wether it's newbies to cfa or to vanguard will eventually find out about the sleeves and want them hence increasing the number of people in the ice castle and more requests for it.
WoW such long sentences I prefer to keep it minimal and say that both has a good point, one thing though it would be awesome for the game to have trade features instead of the admins manually doing this. Also, some people in the ice castle are always only standing around(the majority of it anyway) just to get sleeves. This is really annoying seeing as how the people who battles there and wants to get the sleeves legit are being hindered by people like them. Although I'ts not a concrete idea I think this annoys everyone at least a little seeing as I didn't get any sleeves because of these afk people is unfair (yes, I realise it's a totally different topic)

The admins could implement sleeve trading as requested though I don't know exactly how hard it is but it's definitely possible but only take a long time to complete yet will satisfy a lot of requests
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: ヤタ on July 18, 2014, 03:04:31 PM
I think that currently, automatic sleeve trading would be impossible, which is why this is such a touchy subject.
Title: Re: Sleeve Trading System
Post by: Naomi on July 19, 2014, 08:17:25 AM
I think that currently, automatic sleeve trading would be impossible, which is why this is such a touchy subject.
Yes, It might be currently impossible but maybe something like frequent events where people will fight and the top 10 or so people can exchange sleeves with whoever they choose to. Or maybe something like there will be a choice of sleeves for the top 6-10 they will get 5 different sleeve to exchange for and the top 5 will get 8 sleeves to choose from and every month maybe something like this could be held. Or twice a month probably not thrice since that will take time for the admins. And... yea o yea JUST AN IDEA ;D