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Cardfight!! Vanguard => CF!!V Discussion => Cardfight!! Vanguard Anime Discussion => Topic started by: Incursio on May 04, 2014, 10:44:55 PM
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Guess I'll start this discussion off since nobody seems to be using it, what do you guys think Aichi will be using when he finally meets Kai and the others?
I'm hoping he pulls out a Link Joker Legion and destroys everyone, or at least a reversed Wallfred.
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I'm hoping he pulls out a Link Joker Legion and destroys everyone, or at least a reversed Wallfred.
But doesn't that go against everything he fought for for the last 2 seasons?
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I'm hoping he pulls out a Link Joker Legion and destroys everyone, or at least a reversed Wallfred.
But doesn't that go against everything he fought for for the last 2 seasons?
It would, but it would be nice to see evil Aichi from Season 1 make a return.
I was thinking something along the lines that Link Joker secretly did something to Aichi right before they got banished from Earth, but that's because I'm just sad we haven't been seeing any LJ in Season 4 yet.
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Well, he technically* was reversed by Kai, so maybe.
That would be interesting to see him using LJ.
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Well, he technically* was reversed by Kai, so maybe.
That would be interesting to see him using LJ.
Yeah, another reason why I think it might happen is because if they didn't have him use LJ, it would mean that Link Joker would be dead for (at least) an entire year; and I don't think Bushiroad would kill off a clan like that.
Or at least I hope they don't.
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Raul might use LJ
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Raul might use LJ
Who was Raul again? I'm bad at names.
I like your Personal Text thing by the way.
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Raul might use LJ
Who was Raul again? I'm bad at names.
I like your Personal Text thing by the way.
It's Cera/Sera. The guy Kamui is gonna fight.
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Raul might use LJ
Who was Raul again? I'm bad at names.
I like your Personal Text thing by the way.
It's Cera/Sera. The guy Kamui is gonna fight.
Oh Cera, he is pretty dark so it could be a possibility.
Then again, we have seen some other characters like that using Dark Irregulars so who knows. Having a not-boss have something like Link Joker would be pretty unexpected.
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Raul might use LJ
Who was Raul again? I'm bad at names.
I like your Personal Text thing by the way.
Its a trophy from Infamous if I remember correctly.
Raul might use LJ
Who was Raul again? I'm bad at names.
I like your Personal Text thing by the way.
It's Cera/Sera. The guy Kamui is gonna fight.
Oh Cera, he is pretty dark so it could be a possibility.
Then again, we have seen some other characters like that using Dark Irregulars so who knows. Having a not-boss have something like Link Joker would be pretty unexpected.
Dont give everyone the Kai treatment XD.
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I actually aspect more Aichi and Kai lone-time scenes :P.
Dark Aichi is not a new concept, but you can say that it can actually happen again. I would really like it that way.
However, to be honest I feel that Aichi will end up waking up and shout "Kai-kun!" and the rest of the story... you know it.
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Cera could possibly use Aqua force as the Quatre knights are consist of 4 people using the clans of the leaders teams
Neve uses Gold Paladin(Aichi,Q4)
Galliard uses Dimension Police(Koutei,forgot what his team name is)
Rati uses Shadow Paladin(Ren,???)
Cera possibly using Aqua force (Leon,Dreadnought)
Hopefully Aichi will be using Link Joker which would be interesting o:, That's my guess since Link joker is coming out at a td in td-17 if i'm not mistaken
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Cera could possibly use Aqua force as the Quatre knights are consist of 4 people using the clans of the leaders teams
Neve uses Gold Paladin(Aichi,Q4)
Galliard uses Dimension Police(Koutei,forgot what his team name is)
Rati uses Shadow Paladin(Ren,???)
Cera possibly using Aqua force (Leon,Dreadnought)
Hopefully Aichi will be using Link Joker which would be interesting o:, That's my guess since Link joker is coming out at a td in td-17 if i'm not mistaken
Neve uses GP?
Gaillard uses DP?
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Neve uses GP?
Gaillard uses DP?
Well what did you expect from someone who doesn't even know what AL4 and Caesar are but can name Dreadnought easily? Lol
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Oh Cera, he is pretty dark so it could be a possibility.
Then again, we have seen some other characters like that using Dark Irregulars so who knows. Having a not-boss have something like Link Joker would be pretty unexpected.
We dont know who the boss of the QK is yet. Raul might be the boss.
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Neve uses GP?
Gaillard uses DP?
Well what did you expect from someone who doesn't even know what AL4 and Caesar are but can name Dreadnought easily? Lol
Ahaha I'm forgetful at names and sometimes confuses them I'm sorry for my mistakes. The only reason I remember Dreadnought was I saw it in the recent post of my facebook wall again I'm very sorry but you get my point on them using this and this
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Neve uses GP?
Gaillard uses DP?
Well what did you expect from someone who doesn't even know what AL4 and Caesar are but can name Dreadnought easily? Lol
Ahaha I'm forgetful at names and sometimes confuses them I'm sorry for my mistakes
Oh, no biggie. I had just assumed you joined the cardfighting scene around season 2.
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Btw, a lot of people said Olivier is the leader of the QK. Is this true?
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Btw, a lot of people said Olivier is the leader of the QK. Is this true?
It seems to be, but so far, I don't think there is any confirmation for it.
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Neve uses GP?
Gaillard uses DP?
Well what did you expect from someone who doesn't even know what AL4 and Caesar are but can name Dreadnought easily? Lol
Ahaha I'm forgetful at names and sometimes confuses them I'm sorry for my mistakes
Oh, no biggie. I had just assumed you joined the cardfighting scene around season 2.
Aha really sorry and he most likely will be the leader unless a new unknown character arrives O:
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All that Aichi is missing is Shades.
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All that Aichi is missing is Shades.
And a leather jacket. All badboys own at least one leather jacket.
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All that Aichi is missing is Shades.
And a leather jacket. All badasses own at least one leather jacket.
Huh could of always sworn that his blue jacket was already a leather one.
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Huh could of always sworn that his blue jacket was already a leather one.
Lol. So I guess Aichi meets the criteria for "badboy" status. I mean, a leather jacket is all you ever really need.
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Huh could of always sworn that his blue jacket was already a leather one.
Lol. So I guess Aichi meets the criteria for "badass" status. I mean, a leather jacket is all you ever really need.
If he is using Link Joker I want to see it turn black for no reason at all. Then I'll believe it.
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Well, To be fair, Neve has advertised BT16 and Ratie has advertised the Extra Booster..
Misaki is advertising her own extra booster while Kamui advertises BT16
With the fact that Naoki showed off BT16 against Neve using BT16 base. And Misaki and Ratie's new cards are from Extra Boosters. Its safe to say that Cera will use either Spike Brothers or Neo Nectar.
Knowing Sera's killing intent that we've seen, His Ace is likely going to be Bloody and Frozen Ogre from Spike Brothers. It fits his Killing intent and his Millenium Blizzard Prison
As for Aichi, Not a Clue, he's not going to use something from the Quatre Knights, Likely a Royal Paladin Deck which may gain a Darker Legion to Counter Kai's Legion of Light
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Pheonix's reason is sound, it would make perfect sense for Sera to use Spikes.
I'd like Aichi to use a dark Royal Paladin deck but it wont happen as it goes against what they stand for, I do see him using a shadow paladin deck though, maybe a PBD legion or a Dictator Legion, prefereably PBD as it would make sense, PBD vs Sing Saver
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Pheonix's reason is sound, it would make perfect sense for Sera to use Spikes.
I'd like Aichi to use a dark Royal Paladin deck but it wont happen as it goes against what they stand for, I do see him using a shadow paladin deck though, maybe a PBD legion or a Dictator Legion, prefereably PBD as it would make sense, PBD vs Sing Saver
Maybe an Alfred Re-Birth Unit to match Kai's Overlord The Re-birth?
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Ok seriously though.
I just don't understand how Aichi would be evil plot wise. Unless its not Aichi but is a trap.
Someone give me a good way it could work.
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It would've been cool to see Aichi use link joker!
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It would've been cool to see Aichi use link joker!
Yeah that's an awesome idea, then Aichi would have units that only melee weapons and Reversed colored instruments and books. Now that I said that it would be strange as well.
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Ok seriously though.
I just don't understand how Aichi would be evil plot wise. Unless its not Aichi but is a trap.
Someone give me a good way it could work.
Well, Aichi did go evil when he was under the influence of Psyqualia so I think he could be the final boss if he's being influenced by other big power. Like maybe the Link Jokers cursed him for sending them away.
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That would be amazing a Reverse Gold Paladin unit think of the possibility. If that happens they could lock rear guards to... I got no idea really.
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That would be amazing a Reverse Gold Paladin unit think of the possibility. If that happens they could lock rear guards to... I got no idea really.
Could be something like Lock X cards to get [AUTO]: After this Vanguard attacks, you may search for a Grade 3 nearest to the top of your deck, and ride it as Stand.
It would be like a restander and would still be a Reverse unit while keeping the Gold Paladin theme of summoning the top card.
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Pheonix's reason is sound, it would make perfect sense for Sera to use Spikes.
I'd like Aichi to use a dark Royal Paladin deck but it wont happen as it goes against what they stand for, I do see him using a shadow paladin deck though, maybe a PBD legion or a Dictator Legion, prefereably PBD as it would make sense, PBD vs Sing Saver
Maybe an Alfred Re-Birth Unit to match Kai's Overlord The Re-birth?
That would be interesting, but it's effect would be too hard to call and would it be royals or golds?
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Pheonix's reason is sound, it would make perfect sense for Sera to use Spikes.
I'd like Aichi to use a dark Royal Paladin deck but it wont happen as it goes against what they stand for, I do see him using a shadow paladin deck though, maybe a PBD legion or a Dictator Legion, prefereably PBD as it would make sense, PBD vs Sing Saver
Maybe an Alfred Re-Birth Unit to match Kai's Overlord The Re-birth?
That would be interesting, but it's effect would be too hard to call and would it be royals or golds?
It would be more similar to 'Liberate the lock' except maybe lock all rearguards like overlord and call new ones on top? lol. 'Reverse the Liberation!!!'
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Pheonix's reason is sound, it would make perfect sense for Sera to use Spikes.
I'd like Aichi to use a dark Royal Paladin deck but it wont happen as it goes against what they stand for, I do see him using a shadow paladin deck though, maybe a PBD legion or a Dictator Legion, prefereably PBD as it would make sense, PBD vs Sing Saver
Maybe an Alfred Re-Birth Unit to match Kai's Overlord The Re-birth?
That would be interesting, but it's effect would be too hard to call and would it be royals or golds?
It's Gold Paladin currently it's his favorite plus I can't see him returning to Royal Paladin unless he starts caring about his field formation.
Knowing Aichi he just want to fill up the field to maintain hand advantage and use his vanguard's skill to achieve lots of power. I mean seriously he has Liberator, Monarch Sanctuary Alfred to fill his field and achieve lots of power.
(Sorry about the rant)
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true but it wouldn't go with this seasons flow of story, a dark Royal which is what Phoenix suggested would be more plausible and better for the cannon.
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true but it wouldn't go with this seasons flow of story, a dark Royal which is what Phoenix suggested would be more plausible and better for the cannon.
Hmm.... What i'm surprised about is that they have all three Paladin clans this season. How will the three encounter at the same time and who will Aichi share a bond with? Between which Paladin clan since he used all three of them before?
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true but it wouldn't go with this seasons flow of story, a dark Royal which is what Phoenix suggested would be more plausible and better for the cannon.
Hmm.... What i'm surprised about is that they have all three Paladin clans this season. How will the three encounter at the same time and who will Aichi share a bond with? Between which Paladin clan since he used all three of them before?
I think it's a safe bet to say that he probably wouldn't be using Shadow Paladins since we're already seeing a lot of it with other characters.
I guess it would be neat though if in the end he took all three clans and a made a triple clan deck with a boss card that somehow unites all three of them.
I still hope that Aichi uses Link Joker though at least if/when he's evil.
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I bet that dark Aichi is 'protecting' people in the shadows from some kind of evil. And maybe just maybe he's like the sponsor of the Quatre Knights...
Guess imagination has some different level huh :3
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I think Aichi is still fighting being reversed, a few facts mixed within my logic.
1. When evil Takuto was defeated, all traces of Link Joker where to be destroyed yet Kai was still reversed by choice which means the Void's link with Reverse is too strong to be run through one being and also the old saying "cut the head of the snake..." which could mean Kai, being one of three chosen could have a separate version or source of power from the void, or maybe because he is one of the three it is more permanent due to his level of power.
2. Aichi was NEVER unreversed. I can hear the "Aichi was never reversed" rants coming like a freight train, but yes, Aichi was infact reversed by Kai. Takuto sealed the reversed power within Aichi so that he could defeat Evil Takuto, he didn't remove it, he basically froze it so Aichi was never under the reversed effect and that is why if he lost to reverse again he would die.
My theory.
I think, taking it all into account, Aichi is now partially reversed, with Evil Takuto gone and Aichis strong will, the reversed effect is less than 50% in effect. Not wanting to put a burden or risk on his friends, he sought help from some of the worlds finest in the European Champion Gailard, South American Champion Rattie and possibly the American champion and possibly Australian region champion, whichever Nave and Cera are, I do not know but I imagine they are also regional champions. Nether the less, he sought out these 4 top, world class fighters to guard and protect him, personally I believe they are to protect both Aichi from going out of control and harming his friends and also help find a way to lift the curse of reverse, maybe Takuto freezing the effects of reverse was a bad idea but in the cannon, with both Kai and Aichi reversed and Ren being an anti-hero only wanting to fight Kai and Kai alone, yeah, the world was fucked and it had to be done.
My prediction? honestly I don't know, lets start soley on his deck. There is a valid argument and sufficient evidence for four clans to be used in Gold Paladin, Royal Paladin, Shadow Paladin and Link Joker. Link Joker recieves a trial deck with no information on who uses it leaving a possible Cera/Kourin/Aichi possibility, but the main character of the franchise would never be turned truly evil so LJ can be ruled out, but with Kai leading the way it remains uncertain. Aichi has history with Shadow Paladin and when he turned dark he turned to those last time, but with both Ren and Rattie both using them, an overflow of Shadow Paladin would be bad for other clans although great for Shadow Paladin. Royal Paladins and Gold Paladins have the same reasons, Gailard uses GP and he is viewed as a bad guy, Kai uses RP and is the main protagonist, but the main question is, is Aichi good or evil? not only that, Gailard fights to protect Aichi which in itself is an act of good, Kai fights to save aichi which again, good intentions and both clans symbolise that, if there is a bigger villain (probably the void again) it is a possibility he will use either, it, to me is 50/50 on both of these.
End Game. Now, normally I can see where the series is going but it is too early to tell, my personal guess, not opinion but a guess, is that the void is after Aichi, the QK are protecting him, Kai doesnt realise finding Aichi leads the void to him, and from there I go blank.
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I think Aichi is still fighting being reversed, a few facts mixed within my logic.
1. When evil Takuto was defeated, all traces of Link Joker where to be destroyed yet Kai was still reversed by choice which means the Void's link with Reverse is too strong to be run through one being and also the old saying "cut the head of the snake..." which could mean Kai, being one of three chosen could have a separate version or source of power from the void, or maybe because he is one of the three it is more permanent due to his level of power.
2. Aichi was NEVER unreversed. I can hear the "Aichi was never reversed" rants coming like a freight train, but yes, Aichi was infact reversed by Kai. Takuto sealed the reversed power within Aichi so that he could defeat Evil Takuto, he didn't remove it, he basically froze it so Aichi was never under the reversed effect and that is why if he lost to reverse again he would die.
My theory.
I think, taking it all into account, Aichi is now partially reversed, with Evil Takuto gone and Aichis strong will, the reversed effect is less than 50% in effect. Not wanting to put a burden or risk on his friends, he sought help from some of the worlds finest in the European Champion Gailard, South American Champion Rattie and possibly the American champion and possibly Australian region champion, whichever Nave and Cera are, I do not know but I imagine they are also regional champions. Nether the less, he sought out these 4 top, world class fighters to guard and protect him, personally I believe they are to protect both Aichi from going out of control and harming his friends and also help find a way to lift the curse of reverse, maybe Takuto freezing the effects of reverse was a bad idea but in the cannon, with both Kai and Aichi reversed and Ren being an anti-hero only wanting to fight Kai and Kai alone, yeah, the world was fucked and it had to be done.
My prediction? honestly I don't know, lets start soley on his deck. There is a valid argument and sufficient evidence for four clans to be used in Gold Paladin, Royal Paladin, Shadow Paladin and Link Joker. Link Joker recieves a trial deck with no information on who uses it leaving a possible Cera/Kourin/Aichi possibility, but the main character of the franchise would never be turned truly evil so LJ can be ruled out, but with Kai leading the way it remains uncertain. Aichi has history with Shadow Paladin and when he turned dark he turned to those last time, but with both Ren and Rattie both using them, an overflow of Shadow Paladin would be bad for other clans although great for Shadow Paladin. Royal Paladins and Gold Paladins have the same reasons, Gailard uses GP and he is viewed as a bad guy, Kai uses RP and is the main protagonist, but the main question is, is Aichi good or evil? not only that, Gailard fights to protect Aichi which in itself is an act of good, Kai fights to save aichi which again, good intentions and both clans symbolise that, if there is a bigger villain (probably the void again) it is a possibility he will use either, it, to me is 50/50 on both of these.
End Game. Now, normally I can see where the series is going but it is too early to tell, my personal guess, not opinion but a guess, is that the void is after Aichi, the QK are protecting him, Kai doesnt realise finding Aichi leads the void to him, and from there I go blank.
Aichi started to feel 'link joker' fade away after he defeated Takuto Reverse. I assume that it has something to do with Kourin.
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It is important to remember that even someone who WANTED to remain Reversed, Kai, couldn't keep the power of reverse when it left Earth. So, why in the world would Aichi - someone who in no way wanted to remain reversed - still be reversed.
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It is important to remember that even someone who WANTED to remain Reversed, Kai, couldn't keep the power of reverse when it left Earth. So, why in the world would Aichi - someone who in no way wanted to remain reversed - still be reversed.
And at the end, Kai no longer felt like staying 'reversed', but he felt like as link joker faded so did Aichi's existence so Kai thought it was his own fault since he brought despair to the others. Kai being liberated and link joker fading made Aichi fade too.
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It is important to remember that even someone who WANTED to remain Reversed, Kai, couldn't keep the power of reverse when it left Earth. So, why in the world would Aichi - someone who in no way wanted to remain reversed - still be reversed.
And at the end, Kai no longer felt like staying 'reversed', but he felt like as link joker faded so did Aichi's existence so Kai thought it was his own fault since he brought despair to the others. Kai being liberated and link joker fading made Aichi fade too.
What kind of logic is this? We see Aichi, not yet disappeared, at the end of Season 3 after Link Joker has completely faded from Earth.
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It is important to remember that even someone who WANTED to remain Reversed, Kai, couldn't keep the power of reverse when it left Earth. So, why in the world would Aichi - someone who in no way wanted to remain reversed - still be reversed.
And at the end, Kai no longer felt like staying 'reversed', but he felt like as link joker faded so did Aichi's existence so Kai thought it was his own fault since he brought despair to the others. Kai being liberated and link joker fading made Aichi fade too.
What kind of logic is this? We see Aichi, not yet disappeared, at the end of Season 3 after Link Joker has completely faded from Earth.
As in 'fading' I meant that Aichi was getting erased from everyone's memories, I fail to see your point since this 'logic' was used in season 4. Sorry, if you didn't get it. Also, there was a rumor that season 4 enemies will be Link Joker again.
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Pshyqualia Aichi was cool 8)
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Pshyqualia Aichi was cool 8)
It was sad though, he pretty much ruined Kyou's life but I guess that's what made him better. Some people wanted to see Kai stay evil for longer and they even wanted to see Aichi stay evil longer. Maybe even Ren but am I the only one who would've preferred an evil Shin?
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Pshyqualia Aichi was cool 8)
It was sad though, he pretty much ruined Kyou's life but I guess that's what made him better. Some people wanted to see Kai stay evil for longer and they even wanted to see Aichi stay evil longer. Maybe even Ren but am I the only one who would've preferred an evil Shin?
Evil Shin would still lose to sub manager XD
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Pshyqualia Aichi was cool 8)
It was sad though, he pretty much ruined Kyou's life but I guess that's what made him better. Some people wanted to see Kai stay evil for longer and they even wanted to see Aichi stay evil longer. Maybe even Ren but am I the only one who would've preferred an evil Shin?
Evil Shin would still lose to sub manager XD
lol, sure. We'll just have the sub manager eventually gain the ability to cardfight in one episode. (Which would be awkward)
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Pshyqualia Aichi was cool 8)
It was sad though, he pretty much ruined Kyou's life but I guess that's what made him better. Some people wanted to see Kai stay evil for longer and they even wanted to see Aichi stay evil longer. Maybe even Ren but am I the only one who would've preferred an evil Shin?
Evil Shin would still lose to sub manager XD
lol, sure. We'll just have the sub manager eventually gain the ability to cardfight in one episode. (Which would be awkward)
At least admit seeing the sub manager meowing what he does would be cute. Misaki holds sub manager's cards for him and uses his paws to say which cards would go where. Then the fight continues as he wrecks shin's damage zone.
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Pshyqualia Aichi was cool 8)
It was sad though, he pretty much ruined Kyou's life but I guess that's what made him better. Some people wanted to see Kai stay evil for longer and they even wanted to see Aichi stay evil longer. Maybe even Ren but am I the only one who would've preferred an evil Shin?
Evil Shin would still lose to sub manager XD
lol, sure. We'll just have the sub manager eventually gain the ability to cardfight in one episode. (Which would be awkward)
At least admit seeing the sub manager meowing what he does would be cute. Misaki holds sub manager's cards for him and uses his paws to say which cards would go where. Then the fight continues as he wrecks shin's damage zone.
That would be. Though I don't see Misaki actually willing to hold Sub manager unless she's also holding a book in her right hand (referring to season 1 Misaki)
and it would be funnier to see Emi or Mai holding sub-manager (The cat needs a name!!)
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Of course he has a name. His name is Manager of course. That's the only name he response too most of the time.