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Title: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: Kisaragi Zane on October 18, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
Disclaimer: You do not have to follow this if you prefer to play by the official Bushiroad Restriction List. This was made to make our experience of Vanguard more balanced to play.

This list will serve as the official community ban list that can be used for team battles, tournaments, and/or events. In addition, this will be updated whenever Bushiroad releases a new Cardfight Vanguard Restriction List (for either Premium/Standard) or if there's a large enough outcry regarding a particular card/deck. Additionally: if you plan to use this restriction, it would be best to refer to this list as the "(Cardfight / CFA) Area Banlist". Finally, we are only adding cards to the official Bushiroad Restriction List as an extension, meaning we will not be removing cards from the official Restriction List.

Premium Format Restriction List
  • Dragon Deity of Destruction, Gyze & Neon Gyze cannot be in a deck.
    -Gyze being a center focus between two clans, we've decided to completely remove Gyze entirely.
  • Crimson Lion Cub, Kryph is cannot be used as a Starting Vanguard and is limited to one per deck.
Official Bushiroad Premium Banlist
In Premium Format, Doctroid Lifros is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Cosmos Fairy, Lizbeth is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Tick Tock Worker is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Seven Seas Apprentice, Nightrunner is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Mick the Ghostie Family is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Seven Seas Helmsman, Nightcrow is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Steam Battler, Ur-Watar is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Interdimensional Dragon, Heteroround Dragon is limited to 1 per deck.
In Premium Format, Jumping Jill (V) and Purple Trapezist cannot be used in the same deck.
In Premium Format, Commander Laurel (Original) is limited to 1 per deck.

V-Standard Restriction List
No additions from the Official Bushiroad V-Standard List.

If you have any questions, comments, suggestions, and/or concerns: please leave a comment here as this thread will be opened for the community to speak their minds on regarding what cards should be restricted.
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: Darkness Aeon on October 18, 2018, 02:29:28 PM
Thanks, kys.
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: NightRain on October 20, 2018, 08:03:16 PM
Good ban's! Like "I don't know how play with this or against this, so I just ban its" wp Zane.
Just 1 question, why do you think you know enought to create some banlist for game? All your "ban's" just try to kill DI and Gyze in Prem, You look like a little crying kid, who breaks a toy because he doesn't know how to play with it)
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: Darkness Aeon on October 20, 2018, 11:09:39 PM
Good ban's! Like "I don't know how play with this or against this, so I just ban its" wp Zane.
Just 1 question, why do you think you know enought to create some banlist for game? All your "ban's" just try to kill DI and Gyze in Prem, You look like a little crying kid, who breaks a toy because he doesn't know how to play with it)

Gee, that's pretty rude.
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: Kisaragi Zane on October 21, 2018, 04:40:33 AM
Good ban's! Like "I don't know how play with this or against this, so I just ban its" wp Zane.
Just 1 question, why do you think you know enought to create some banlist for game? All your "ban's" just try to kill DI and Gyze in Prem, You look like a little crying kid, who breaks a toy because he doesn't know how to play with it)

First off, this isn't for me specifically - it never was. I've gone on record multiple times saying "I don't plan on using this list for events/tournaments or even request it in team battles". This was created from the input of other players who pointed out the issues of Premium Format that prevented them from enjoying it, let alone playing it. So your assumption in thinking that - is totally incorrect.

Second, I don't know every detail about Vanguard (especially considering I haven't played in a team battle in god knows how long), but again - this was created from the input of those who spoke up about trying to make Premium Format playable.

Your attitude is piss poor - assumptions only served to make an ass of yourself. If you're going to ask questions, try not sounding completely condescending in thinking "oh he's just salty/crybaby wah wah". I wouldn't have ever made a list that goes against Bushiroad's restrictions because I believe that, in a competitive setting (keyword here, really big one), the game should be played to whatever the creators allow. Any problems with the game/cards should be overcome via the players own discretion, aka adapting/learning the match up. However: many players that spoke up, even Premium players and those who play said decks, have said they do not like Premium format because of Enigmatic/NLK and Gyze, because it makes the gameplay stale in non-competitive settings. However, people tend to use them in any setting because the desire to win is there, even if there's no prize at the end of the Team Battle except for some worthless self gratification of getting a sweep.

The point is, my ignorant person, this shouldn't affect you in the slightest bit. This isn't a mandatory "must do" nor will it be because I'm well aware of that people prefer to play the game under what Bushiroad deems is acceptable in their game, this only serves as an option, an alternative form of playing. If it really bothers you, simply don't play request or use it in team battles.
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: NightRain on October 21, 2018, 05:20:43 AM
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First off, this isn't for me specifically - it never was. I've gone on record multiple times saying "I don't plan on using this list for events/tournaments or even request it in team battles". This was created from the input of other players who pointed out the issues of Premium Format that prevented them from enjoying it, let alone playing it. So your assumption in thinking that - is totally incorrect.

Second, I don't know every detail about Vanguard (especially considering I haven't played in a team battle in god knows how long), but again - this was created from the input of those who spoke up about trying to make Premium Format playable.

Your attitude is piss poor - assumptions only served to make an ass of yourself. If you're going to ask questions, try not sounding completely condescending in thinking "oh he's just salty/crybaby wah wah". I wouldn't have ever made a list that goes against Bushiroad's restrictions because I believe that, in a competitive setting (keyword here, really big one), the game should be played to whatever the creators allow. Any problems with the game/cards should be overcome via the players own discretion, aka adapting/learning the match up. However: many players that spoke up, even Premium players and those who play said decks, have said they do not like Premium format because of Enigmatic/NLK and Gyze, because it makes the gameplay stale in non-competitive settings. However, people tend to use them in any setting because the desire to win is there, even if there's no prize at the end of the Team Battle except for some worthless self gratification of getting a sweep.

The point is, my ignorant person, this shouldn't affect you in the slightest bit. This isn't a mandatory "must do" nor will it be because I'm well aware of that people prefer to play the game under what Bushiroad deems is acceptable in their game, this only serves as an option, an alternative form of playing. If it really bothers you, simply don't play request or use it in team battles.

ban list its are good idea, but this ban's must balance deck's, not kill them.
If you would balance Ancor, why not limit Assasin to 2 copy in deck (with Ancor only). Assasin cannot be used as a starting Vanguard. And, maybe, limit Ancor to 2 copy in deck(Last one not soo need, but if you think that limiting assasins not enought)

Than Gyze, ofc most of people don't like Gyze decks, because most of people in almost all TCG prefer play with fast agro decks, midrange decks, but only few peoples prefer control deck, and people dont like them because they play long, but this just part of a game(I don't mind that Gyze control deck, that just example of slow deck). I know that OTT Gyze too strong, and maybe his really need some nerf, but what If I want use smth like Duo Gyze? Why I cant use fun and not meta deck, just because people dont want play with Gyze and other Gyze type need small nerf, how about just restrict some special stuff with Gyze? Ban lists created to balance game, not just to kill part of this game. And sorry for yesteday comment, I just was small confused by this list, for real, just kill decks completelly, that an extreme measures (sorry for my bad english :-[ )
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: Kisaragi Zane on October 21, 2018, 06:49:22 AM
If that was your point, why didn't you just lead with your problems with the list itself?

Originally I was going to limit Assassin to one but the problem is the interaction between Assassin and NLK, since Assassin is used in other Dark Irregular builds such as the Demagorge deck, so I felt it would be better to restrict them from being in the same deck rather than killing a card that multiple decks use but not abuse to the extent that this deck does. Same with NLK, the card isn't broken by any means on it's own.

On the other hand, my reasoning for banning Gyze is just, right now: only Angel Feather and OTT are the two problematic decks with Gyze. Sure I can just restrict Gyze from being used in those two clans, but what if another clan pops up that uses Gyze to a similar effect to how he's being used to the two before it? It's easy to say "then just restrict that clan too" but at some point the problem will be defaulted to Gyze himself as a card. I understand not every clan/deck (especially ones that are out now) uses Gyze in that fashion, but I felt this would be the better way to go about dealing with Gyze entirely than just waiting for another deck to come about and break it. However, if people are open to the idea of wanting Gyze to be free, then I can just keep it restricted from it's two problematic clans.
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: zexal on February 21, 2019, 09:11:02 AM
Thank you so much zane god bless you. But can you pls restrict the bermuda infinte loop in premium bcs its unstoppable. I wish you the best luck
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: Kisaragi Zane on April 30, 2019, 12:11:10 PM
Gredora is at 0, have a nice day.
Title: Re: Cardfight Area Community Restriction List
Post by: Kida on April 30, 2019, 12:17:33 PM
Can we add Morfessa/Katrina/Gastille to the mix?