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Battle area => Community => Card Strategy => Topic started by: ヤタ on April 07, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
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We need one of these guys. Right? Right?
Well, I've made this thread so we can all discuss Legion Support Cards and whatever Combos you can perform.
Notable Cards
Brawler, Youjin
Grade 2/Narukami/Dragonman/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When your vanguard performs Legion, you may choose up to 1 of your opponent's rear-guards, and retire it.
Now, this unit is very powerful, in my opinion. It can be splashed into any deck with Legion, granting them easy retire and pressure. It also combos with the next card for even more pressure:
Bare-handed Brawler, Ark
Grade 1/Narukami/Sylph/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: During your turn, when an opponent's rear-guard is put into the drop zone, if your vanguard is in Legion, this unit gets [Power] +3000 until end of turn.
Ark is essentially Steel-Blooded Eradicator, Shuki, without the Eradicator and Main Phase requirements, and simply needing your vanguard to be in Legion. Easily splashable, since you can even retire a rear-guard by attacking to give it power.
Silver Blaze
Grade 2/Spike Brothers/Demon/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: [Soul Blast (1)] When this unit attacks a vanguard, if your vanguard is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, this unit gets [Power]+10000 until end of that battle, and at the end of that battle, return this unit to your deck, and shuffle your deck.
Oh, this card. This is one of, if not the best Legion attacker currently in the game. It easily creates vital 26k columns, which easily topple 11k vanguards, and is all round a great card. I'm going to be running at least 2 in each of my Legion Decks, I think. One thing to note is that this card also Legions with Emerald Blaze.
Lightning Bow Seeker, Gildas
Grade 2/Royal Paladin/Human/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: [CB1] When your vanguard performs Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, search your deck for up to 1 "Seeker" card, call it to R, and shuffle your deck.
While not generic, this card is still notable, as it has an extremely cost-effective search skill, allowing you to fetch any "Seeker" card on to your rear-guard circles. In Seeker decks I can see this card being very viable.
Generic 10k Legion Booster
Grade 1/Power 6000/Shield 5000
[AUTO](RC):When this unit boosts a vanguard, if your vanguard is in Legion, the boosted unit gets [Power]+4000 until end of that battle.
These are pretty much the best 10k Boosters widely available. All you need is a vanguard in Legion, and you have 30k+ Columns for days ^^
Generic 12k Legion Attacker
Grade 2/Power 8000/Shield 5000
[AUTO]:When this unit attacks, if your vanguard is in Legion, this unit gets [Power]+4000 until end of that battle.
These things are really simple, but they're interesting. In the past, the only 12k on attack Grade 2s were the Archetype ones, but now we have these, easily splashable in any deck with Legion, giving them a decent beatstick other than Silver Blaze. What is to note is that the LB4 attackers, also 8k, only gained 3k, which could either mean that power creep is happening, or that it is because your vanguard actually has to be in Legion.
Discuss!
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In my opinion the legion are over powered all of them. They are too big of a gap between the rest of cards. Everyone uses them its normal but they are too strong. When i try to play old decks they are usless, if I don't get perfect hand or perfect guards. No one can defend themselves constantly against a 30k att with twin drive + extra 2 attacks from rear guards. Not to mention the maths as even if you use perfect guard you will lose 2 cards. 1 for guard and 1 for discard Where as your opponent gets 2 extra cards. Ofc you can use the other guard but its not secure, you may get unlucky and att wil go through. If we take into account royal paladin they can stand and hit again with another 20k+. If pretty much forces you to use perfect guards in your decks and control decks are gone be insalny hard to play now. Mainly because the vanguard itself will win the battle for you.
I used narukami legion and with Eridactor, electric shape dragon combined with 2 youjin's i took all the rear guards out of my opponents play. THe game was pretty much over already. My opponent lacked cards in his hand, + he needed to defend againts 3 attacks without any interceptors. My point is that a lot of the other cards won't be able to fight againts that strength, dosen;t really matter what legion we use.
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You know, I remember saying that people should guard early before, and it's a relevant point now. Guarding early at least softens the blow of Legion, while allowing you to keep advantage if your opponent doesn't. Legion is scary, and imo the scariest thing about it is the fact that all Legion support is generic. Control decks are definitely going to be harder to play. I think that later on every thing will be more equal, but right now Legion is just extremely strong.
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in my opinion the legion was a step too forward. It should be released a lot later, when we get units which can defend against it. I also don't really believe in guarding early, simply because your hand will go down and guarding early doesn't fight against their abilities. E.g. nova grappler, if you don't guard against them they will just stand. By guarding early you won't have anything that will guard against them later. Also you won't be able to make LB and counter blasts which are the keys in this game. I just hope they will release something in later episodes which will be at least equal, even Kagero seems like a trash competing with legions.
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The thing is, I think Limit Break did something to this game. It changed it to be far more late-game oriented, and has also built the game around itself. Legion is good in that regard, but makes it stronger against Limit Breaks. I hope that every clan gets Legion within the next few sets :P
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I'm 100% sure now. I sometimes play total no brainers using royal paladin legion, and without a good hand you can't do absolutely anything.
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Mhm. Anyway, instead of discussing how broken Legion is, howsabout we discuss the support and combos?
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Well, although not much of a combo, Silver Blaze can be used in any deck with Legion, not just Spike Brothers. But I think you kind of already mentioned that.
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You know, we could also put in Counters to these things, the most OBVIOUS Counter to practically any Legion Deck is Link Joker alone. Since it locks literally any Rear-Guard for days. Other options could include to main clans that grant amazing Support for your hand and field, Murakumo Shirayuki is a decent way to fight against Legion Attacks alone.
Not sure what kind of Support I can think of for Legion though. Only advice I can offer for Combos and Support is run a few Hybrid Variants of the decks.
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Legion is only broken when Deiske uses Sing Saver -_-
but on a serious note, Legion is fine and it makes the game more stable in my eyes, I think Legion should of been released instead of limit break and break ride.
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You know, we could also put in Counters to these things, the most OBVIOUS Counter to practically any Legion Deck is Link Joker alone. Since it locks literally any Rear-Guard for days. Other options could include to main clans that grant amazing Support for your hand and field, Murakumo Shirayuki is a decent way to fight against Legion Attacks alone.
Not sure what kind of Support I can think of for Legion though. Only advice I can offer for Combos and Support is run a few Hybrid Variants of the decks.
Wouldn't Link Joker be the one countered by legion? Because the power up from legion makes the loss of one attack (assuming you locked one of my front row) not that big of a deal (you saved 10k because you don't have to guard one attack, but you have to use another 10k to guard my legion). I really don't know how to word that :P.
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Yeah, Link Joker would probably be countered by Legion, because of the 10k extra power that it gives. You can also use Silver Blaze to avoid front row locking.
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the only Link Joker unit that does damage is Noob Breaker Dragon due to its SB draw effect, apart from that, link joker is easily squashed.
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the only Link Joker unit that does damage is Noob Breaker Dragon due to its SB draw effect, apart from that, link joker is easily squashed.
i should beat you down with vanilladios and his reverse army of 22k lanes
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Once the Blue Flames come out, Frozen Ogre can be used in conjunction with the Gold Paladin Legioning to fish your deck for Pellinore and get a guaranteed superior ride out of the deal. Pretty cheesy.
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Link Jokers can still some what keep a hand when playing Legion
Also do Royals have anything that goes in soul besides Margal ?
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Brawler Youjin kind of reminds me of Blaster Blade Seeker. Makes it a lot easier to retire around two rearguards within one turn or so.
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Wow i haven't even realized the lack of clan restriction on this cards. Silver Blaze may work well on Genesis
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I personally don't really get why people generally try to splash a lot of this stuff into other clans, but then again that's just my stance on things, I've always been a bit of a deck purist.
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Legion combos really well at recycling the deck when used with Musketeers. You can nearly recycle entire drop zones or at least most of the useful cards.
I believe people will soon find solutions to some of the most troublesome legion combos soon.
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Should notice also Metalborgs
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I use Seeker of Bravery, Ars in my Emerald Blaze build because of the heavy counterblast cost.
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I guess the Witch grade 2 Legion can work in CoCo if you deal with the part that it's a shadow paladin and not Oracle.
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Metalborg Sin Buster will soon have a Costless 30k Legion skill once Metalborg, Black Doctor Comes out.
In other words, With Sin Buster Legioned in the front boosted by Black Doctor, I can shut down all of your Grade 1's or higher units so long as I have that column.
Say goodbye to guarding :/