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Cardfight!! Vanguard => Request => Topic started by: Cherry on March 13, 2015, 04:46:04 AM

Title: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 13, 2015, 04:46:04 AM
Do I even need to say anything about the ridiculous amount of camping the entire community does at Ice Palace? The spawn area still has more people, but seriously.

There's little reason to make those two areas the only relevant spots in the game. What's the point of the sleeve lottery in one place? Before you say "this just encourages afk all over", the system already encourages afking in general. It'd probably be a better suggestion for a better way to get sleeves, but...

Not really a priority thing. Just something I felt was incredibly irksome and would probably be better off adjusted to all over the game so Ice Palace is more than just "the place you sit in to get sleeves maybe".
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Ren «Я» on March 13, 2015, 04:49:55 AM
Do I even need to say anything about the ridiculous amount of camping the entire community does at Ice Palace? The spawn area still has more people, but seriously.

There's little reason to make those two areas the only relevant spots in the game. What's the point of the sleeve lottery in one place? Before you say "this just encourages afk all over", the system already encourages afking in general. It'd probably be a better suggestion for a better way to get sleeves, but...

Not really a priority thing. Just something I felt was incredibly irksome and would probably be better off adjusted to all over the game so Ice Palace is more than just "the place you sit in to get sleeves maybe".

Totally agree with
"would probably be better off adjusted to all over the game so Ice Palace is more than just "the place you sit in to get sleeves maybe"

Hopefully they do change this
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 13, 2015, 05:31:23 AM
i say give certain area certain sleeves. that way everyone will try to spend time at the place they can get the sleeve they want.

not all of us go there for the sleeves but i doubt this will change the ice area being the place where most of the stronger fighters hang out.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 13, 2015, 06:17:34 AM
It's not about changing the positioning of the "stronger fighters".

It's about changing Ice Palace from being Ice Camp.

Realistically, what's the point of the rest of the map with this? Spawn is for everyone who doesn't know about the rest of the map and/or the sleeve lottery, every other place is for team battles, and forest is usually used for that.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 13, 2015, 06:51:37 AM
in the end that wont change both places or the forest from being a campsite.

spawn is where most people hang out because it is the first place we enter.

forest most people tb in because it is the closes to both area's

and the ice place people hang for sleeves or because most of the regular players play there.

even if everywhere gets a sleeve lotto ice castle will still be the "in-place"

on the brightside most fighters that dont know where to get more sleeves will recieve some.

and like i said letting certain area spawn certain sleeves might change the activity ration in zet area.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 13, 2015, 06:56:25 AM
It's not like we've actually tried.

Certain sleeves spawning in certain areas all over the game gives plenty of incentive to get out of the Ice Palace and actually go somewhere else.

Ice Palace is the "in-place" for the reason of sleeves. The community of the boards hangs out there for that starting purpose, then it simply became a nice looking place to be in. If this starting trend extends to other parts of the map, then it can still be the "in" place for some people, while other parts of the world are relevant.

Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: [T-SP] Access on March 13, 2015, 09:07:16 AM
Supports Idea.
Frankly what is the point of the other rooms?
-Extra space so there won't be too much players in one room (if thats the case well i think 2 rooms are alr enough its not like players camp at the Docks or the transition map to the Ice Palace.(Although that map is used for TB)
-The random pre made deck rm is pointless like the odds that there will be 5 ppl there are like pulling off 4 heal triggers at 6 dmg.
Would be nice if like the Card shop does not have soo many barriers/Compartments should be open.

Basically i think a revamp of the maps or some maps could be done.
-Signs can be placed at like transition point to let players know that there are other rooms available(Gimmick secret rms can have better hints)
-A better way of promoting the sleeves since not many players know abt the sleeve drop and how the sleeve drop mech works.
(Maybe in the sleeves button u can click it and there will be words on how the sleeve system works and where to get sleeve.)
-All Sleeves drop/Reduced timing(Not really an issue)/More sleeves given at the start of the game(Maybe at least 1 of each clan main unit).
-Removing unnecessary maps

All in all im not really enforcing these things to be done but it would be nice. although there will be those ppl who will be like "CFA have takes up alot of space alr u know u want add more features, CFA takes time to program and not everyone is a fantastic programmer"
I understand but maybe a more comprehensive explaination can be done asides from no time, Experience, Too much space.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Magus TSS on March 13, 2015, 11:33:49 AM
I would like this idea a lot since it would actually allow for more winners since at least 1 sleeve will drop in every room of the game and 2 in the first room since that is the main room of the game and because of how this game actually works with rooms. The only room I would not allow this to be in is the random room. Since it's very rare to see anyone in there. The most is 0-5. Meaning it's the easiest place to attempt to get a sleeve since it's not hidden and yea every room is used.

But... The biggest problem with this is... Users being able to sign in a inf number of times on the same account using multiple windows/computers. Untill this is fixed I can't see any of chance of sleeve drop (with how rooms work right now) ever becoming a global thing.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 13, 2015, 11:41:54 AM
A randomroom: if they go with different sleeves everywhere like i proposed some people will actually try randomroom.

B youre right about that we but in truth as long as it doesnt get out of hand (ok i know it will) i dont see a problem with someone opening one avatar per location ( but yea it is gonna get out of hand).
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on March 13, 2015, 03:42:13 PM
I agree with Jai, we have over 150 sleeves and the sleeve pool has less than 20 at a time and it takes several updates to change., makign the chance of you actually getting the sleeve you want very low. If all of the room had different sleeve pools we could cover nearly all possible sleeves making that people could actually try to get the sleeves they want by hunting it in the specific room.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 13, 2015, 05:29:18 PM
If certain sleeves are obtainable in the random room, there's more incentive to go there, as Jai said. Mind you, there's still the problem of them afking there since people may not want to play with random decks, but that's a flaw in the system itself like I stated before.

But... The biggest problem with this is... Users being able to sign in a inf number of times on the same account using multiple windows/computers. Untill this is fixed I can't see any of chance of sleeve drop (with how rooms work right now) ever becoming a global thing.

That can be fixed by making it so someone with the same account name can't log in at the same time as another window. I want to believe that isn't too difficult, but I don't know much about programming.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 13, 2015, 05:43:26 PM
i saw allow em to open two windows, that way we can still do Tag Battles.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 13, 2015, 05:57:43 PM
Tag battles should be something implemented on their own, imo.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 13, 2015, 07:13:25 PM
Tag battles should be something implemented on their own, imo.

you mean the ability to make tag battles in one window ?
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on March 13, 2015, 10:37:04 PM
I don't care that much about people afking.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: [T-SP] Access on March 14, 2015, 01:46:08 AM
i just realised that altough gd that each map has a different sleeve pool and i do support the idea, wont like ppl who wanna break the sys have like a avatar in each map like open like 4 windows and each avatar AFK in each map. although i myslef dun care much abt the ppl afking in CFA thou.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 14, 2015, 04:37:10 AM
That problem is already being discussed starting from Magus' post.

@Jai: Yes I mean making tag battles an official game mode on cfa. That's more work for another thing though.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 14, 2015, 06:25:56 AM
im starting to think some people dont fully read or understand certainposts.

but its a good idea or if its simpler just like i said before limit it to opening 2 windows.

hopefully the programmers will be able to implement something.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Moe Shinkō on March 14, 2015, 09:57:32 AM
Do the programmers listen or try to implement the things we suggest?
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: 41024 on March 14, 2015, 10:50:26 AM
listen
yes

implement
no
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 14, 2015, 04:23:39 PM
o come on 41 you listened to me when i asked for the coin toss, and you listened when we wanted more boxes.

just go in there take charge again and tell em to shape up.

but really if this is possible to and will be implement please give us a feedback.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 14, 2015, 04:50:55 PM
listen
yes

implement
no

Didn't expect such a bold faced "no".

Can we at least get a reason why? Tag battles can be put aside, but making the sleeve lottery global, even for certain sleeves in different places, can make work on the other areas of the map mean something. Because then people would actually travel around.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: 41024 on March 14, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
Cherry
We need lottery at the ice castle to take some people away from our start location. If lottery will be everywhere, people will go to the location with the least number of people and it will be difficult to search an opponent.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 14, 2015, 05:36:27 PM
Putting it everywhere that isn't the spawn area is an option too.

Also, it wouldn't be that difficult. The thing with the plan of going where there's the least amount of people is that EVERYONE will have that idea. This mostly negates the problem with a small populated area, as a lot of players who will try that plan will flood around.

Jai also suggested the global lottery having specific sleeves in places. Like random deck room could have Blaster Dark Revenger sleeves while docks could have Revonn sleeves. Which further spreads people out.

Though, I admit, the first bit is assuming people will even go around hunting in the first place.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Moe Shinkō on March 14, 2015, 07:00:51 PM
I would really really appreciate In-game moderation. It's really needed.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Jai Hearts on March 14, 2015, 08:32:46 PM
sleeve loto: then its best to make it for every location that isnt the spawn location.

In game mods: isnt needed if the multiple windows ideas happens, considering the players arnt that frantic that we need mods in the game itself.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Cherry on March 14, 2015, 10:37:57 PM
In-game moderation is something we need, but that's another topic for another thread.
Title: Re: Make the Sleeve Lottery Global
Post by: Rank Up on April 10, 2015, 08:18:39 AM
Well, the admin answered on the topic. Lock!