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Battle area => Community => Deck Discussion => Topic started by: Cherry on June 01, 2015, 08:45:06 AM
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Grade 0: 17
1 Neon Messiah
4 Asteroid Wolf
4 Quake Kick Pulse Monk
4 Superstring Theory Beloved Girl
4 Torn World Lady Healer
Grade 1: 14
4 Destiny Dealer
4 Flower Blooming in the Vacuum, Cosmolis
3 Dark Metal Chameleon
3 White Dwarf Lady Battler
Grade 2: 11
4 Arousal Messiah
4 Gravity Well Lady Battler
3 Sunset Edge, Duskblade
Grade 3: 8
4 Alter Ego Messiah
4 Neutron Star Lady Gunner
Generation Zone: 8
4 Nebula Dragon, Big Crunch Dragon
2 Genesis Dragon, Judgment Messiah
2 Genesis Dragon, Amnesty Messiah
This deck is the funnest thing ever oh my god i love it so much bushi please give it a legion or another g3 messiah
Triggers are standard. Grade 1s focus on staying in the game and making your counterblast engine endless. Dark Metal Chameleon is the best self-lock target, and with Alter Ego's GB2, you only plus off of it the more you lock it. White Dwarf is for unlock combos in getting a booster after Gravity Well locks one, setting off Arousal, and just a push. I tried other options like Palladium and Bolt Line. Bolt Line is just ergh and Palladium is a very nice choice, but you won't find yourself running out of soul blasts. Even when the game goes on too long... unless they have a bunch of locked units and you do (like 3+ on both sides) and you blast your soul fully for them all.
I'm messing around with Grade 2s. Gravity Well is the start of combos alongside Alter Ego, though not being +5 sort of hurts. But being +4 to hit 13 prepares her for a Crossride format, which is good enough. Duskblade is amazing but my only problem with him is that he doesn't start a combo unless you're unlocking the opponent with Dwarf or Amnesty. He is a powerful lock on anything important though, which is why he's great anyway. Heavy Material's nice cycling and combo starting/continuing, but he costs a counterblast, unlike Gravity. I wish we had a Legion to make up for all this cycle power though...
After testing I was wrong about Arousal and it gives you 4 swings every turn.
Alter Ego is the best Heart Beat boss ever and I will honestly fight people who think otherwise (even if I'm wrong). Counterblast 1 to lock the opponent is something, but locking yourself for Neon or Chameleon, and making up for your Stridden Vanguard losing its booster by putting it on 31 is great. However, the real brilliance is it being a reminiscent Chaos Breaker. By that, I mean better. Yeah, sure, Chaos Breaker retires. Though, Alter Ego works on any Phase and any time a card is unlocked by any means. Ezel's out of a job! Doesn't work against Monarch Alfred though. So after your Stride turns after your second Stride, you start drawing immediately from your own cards unlocking.
Neutron Star isn't all that great. There's superior choices like Star Cradle, or a Legion. But I like her art, so zzz. She's a miniature Alter Ego anyway, so it's not a total loss.
Big Crunch is stupid. Remember how Omega Lock was terrifying but it required quite a bit to work? Like Bolt Lines or Flash Guns hitting, Dark Zodiac legioning and then having to lock by other means, and Glendios who discards a Reverse on Limit Break, or Glendios' Stride asking for you to be on five damage? Yeah, forget that, Big Crunch just omega locks a column for Counterblast1/G Flip if you Strode already. Takes out a column, Alter Ego takes out the other for less time, but still turns them into time bombs. They either boost Amnesty/Nebula/White Dwarf or become draws for Alter Ego later, while being hard-sealed.
Judgment Messiah's back row lock on-hit feels sort of underwhelming. So it adds on that it sets off Dark Chameleons and Neon Messiah off early, or gets your boosters open after you locked them yourself. And it's free! No conditions whatsoever. The unlock isn't even required, so Star-vaders can have a field day.
Maximum Seal Dragon is Bushi's tease to Kagero never getting new big Seal Dragon cards. It's my choice over Blizza because I don't like Blizza. That, and Maximum capitalizes off of leftover Big Crunch plays. It'll hit insanely big powers once you use it, just as Blizza would, but you have to have an abundance of units locked in order to make him big. Lategame, that's not hard, and as stated earlier, use him after a Big Crunch (probably your second).
Amnesty is the Big Damn Hero of Ibuki's deck and has some of the most hilarious roles possible. It does practically everything except help Alter Ego draw. Fighting Glendios? Unlock everything he Omegad. Messiah mirror? Do the same. Ezel? Unlock everything before he does. Need to set off your wombo combos? Go on while getting a 40-60 vanguard. Just going for game? By all means! The stupidest thing about it is that it says you can unlock any number of cards. You only need 3 for the Critical, so just unlock your own stuff and leave their intercepts sealed. Unlock a booster of theirs to rub in the wound! Oh, by the way, your Dark Chameleons and Arousals activated. You still have Triple Drive too. Did I mention she's only Counterblast 1?
This deck's efficiency of every card being free or Counterblast 1 or an unlock is the best part about this. They can go on for days from minimal payment required. I'm going to stick to this as one of my mains and look forward to the future of Bushi (hopefully) pushing the deck as hard as possible. At least another Grade 3 Messiah.
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Your Messiah deck is agreeable, but I feel like your not getting where Bushi is trying to go with Messiah. After some play testing with my version, its possible to lock your opponent front row rearguards throughout the whole match, and I have been able to use Amnesty Messiah every turn without unlocking nothing but one of my opponent cards. Amnesty Messiah is most defiantly not useless combined with Gravity Well, and Arousal it provides very high pressure.
I imagine your version has trouble with decking out and ending a game. It also will most likely fail to win in a mirror, Ezel will make Crunch and Nebula useless, and I think your focusing to much on omega locking, and the pluses of Alter Ego. I also dont think 4 big Crunch is necessary with Messiah, but its what you prefer. The deck would be ok against specific clans, but its not good for clans that relies on their vanguard, or dont require field presence I prefer not to share my build here, but if you would like to see it please Skype me.
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It's possible to lock their front row for the entire match. I never said Amnesty was useless, I love this thing. My problem was with Arousal if anything. I usually unlock everything with Amnesty on purpose for the sake of ham if I have game. I keep their front row locked when I'm not going ham.
This deck has literally no problems decking out unless I'm screwing around. Ending a game is incredibly easy with Amnesty, Maximum Seal, and just wailing on my opponent when they have no moves. I've only lost a mirror to Blaster's Messiahs because I gave him locks for him to open with Amnesty by not thinking. If Ezel unlocks what Crunch did, you just +2 from Alter Ego. Maximum Seal doesn't care, you'll still be locking stuff to make him work anyway, even if you don't have the column Crunch shut down.
Big Crunch is the stupidest Stride in the clan, there's no reason to play less unless you're doing something weird with more Amnestys or Madus in Legion decks. Counterblast 1 to Omega Lock a column and nothing more is absolutely incredible control that shouldn't be sacrificed. Against clans that rely on their Vanguard like Dimension Police would still ask for some work from their rearguards (save Enigmen I guess? There's DRobos but I wouldn't call the Daikaisers a problem). They can withhold stuff in their hand, but that isn't that much a problem, as they sacrifice overall field presence and attack wave numbers to stay away from your locking. At most, this deck would have an irritating time with Megacolony (shut down Stride attacks) or Narukami (perma-retires).
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-2 Heavy Material Dragon
-1 Dark Metal Chameleon
+2 Arousal Messiah
+1 White Dwarf Lady Battler
REMEMBER WHEN I SAID I HAD PROBLEMS WITH AROUSAL
NEVER MIND
I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO WRONG ABOUT A CARD IN MY LIFE OH MY GOD THING IS BROKE
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-1 Nebula Dragon, Maximum Seal Dragon
+1 Genesis Dragon, Amnesty Messiah
good night
sweet prince
lay me down to rest
o silent night
something something funeral music