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Title: [Kagero]Vortex Laser Deck
Post by: Umer~ on September 19, 2014, 10:56:08 AM
Grade 0x17
x1 Red Pulse Dracokid (First Vanguard)
x4 Perdition Dragon, Buster Rain Dragon (Critical)
x2 Seal Dragon, Biella (Critical)
x4 Gattling Claw Dragon (Draw)
x2 Seal Dragon, Artpique (Draw)
x4 Perdition Dancer, Agafia (Heal)

Grade 1 x15
x4 Dragon Monk, Gojo
x4 Perdition Battler, Mareiko
x3 Perdition Dragon, Rampart Dragon (PG)
x3 Demonic Dragon Mage, Mahoraga
x1 Dragon Knight, Gimel (QW)

Grade 2 x12
x4 Perdition Dragon, Menace Laser Dragon (Mate)
x4 Perdition Dragon, Whirlwind Dragon (Mate)
x4 Perdition Dragon Knight, Elham

Grade 3 x6
x4 Perdition Dragon, Vortex Dragonewt (Legion)
x2 Perdition Dragon, Pain Laser Dragon (Legion)



'Kagero' are finally back in action, and finally this clan finally got their own characteristics back, which is originally retiring people units, until Narukami took their style and developed it even better. So this clan didn't have much retiring to shine and only standing the vanguard with so many amount of drive checks. Now with the retiring and power up it makes this deck so good with attacking, and a lot of retiring are done. Not only that 'Perdition' also have their own unflipper which makes this deck even better than before.



Let's start off by talking about this unit. This unit is unbelievably better and a huge improvement compare to 'Dragruler', because when 'Dragruler' deals damage, triggers activation always worked. Now when 'Vortex Dragonewt' use the ability, the triggers are totally negated, which is what makes this card good. You will need to pay two counterblasts as well as discarding a unit with the same name as the vanguard which is not hard to pull while it is Legion. This is not the only bonus, you can also retire two grade 2 or less on your opponent rear guards, as well as this unit gaining 3k power for each unit that is retired. Although this artwork reminds me of 'Vortex Dragon', well it is actually based on 'Vortex Dragon' design and now with better improvements. This card have been seen a lot, and it is mainly the main card that wins the game, I don't know for you, but I know this card have for me.



Well, I'm glad the Legion is mate with this unit, usually when Legion are mate with these kinds of units, they are not really good. The 12k beaters. It's a rare chance to see a good Legion unit with a 12k beater, such as this powerful 'Vortex Dragonewt. Now I haven't got much to talk about this unit because it is only a 12k beater and nothing more to it, except this artwork looks like 'Vortex Dragon' again.






Miwa avatar Legion, wasn't the best but the ability is still pretty decent. We all know by now that Kai gets all the good Kagero units, while Miwa gets the normal ones let just say. Well apart from Season 3 where Miwa used Seal Dragons that is completely different from Kai's Kagero deck. Well anyway let's talk about this card. By doing Legion, you can retire an entire column with just one counterblast, which is not bad at all, and by doing one soul blast you can make this card gains 3k power as well as setting up the drop zone for another Legion. This card may not be as good as 'Vortex Dragonewt' but it does have its own very useful card. Well for some reason unlike 'Brawlers' this unit does get a free retire, but I guess that will be overpower if it does.



This is a card that focus on retiring a card from the same column which reminds of 'Tejas' but 'Tejas' focused on attacking. You will need to pay one counterblast for this card to work. This unit is also the mate for 'Pain Laser' with the only difference, that one retires one unit and one can retire the entire column. At least this unit does not have to retire the front row only, or what ever grade it needs to retire, you can just select a unit from the same column and retire. Must be the same column as this unit, so you will need to make sure what you are going to retire, before you call this onto a rear guard. Yes this card only works on the rear guards and not the vanguard, which is unfortunate.



'Perdition' have their very own unflipper which what makes this deck even better. Kagero are always heavy counterblasts, and without a unflipper or two to reduce the amount of counterblasts used, then it will not be running smoothly. Now with their very own unflipper, I think it run great especially when you can constantly use this card over and over again if one of your opponent rear guard is retired on the same column this unit is in by paying one soulblast. That soul blast can easily help you set up for Legion, but too bad you cannot really get plenty of cards in soul, or it will be even better for this unit ability.



'Perdition Dragon, Tinder Spear Dracokid' first vanguard is really useful not only that it looks like a baby version of 'Big Bang' series. Unfortunately this card only works when your vanguard is Legion, but it does have a very good ability. When the boosted unit hits a vanguard, by paying one counterblast, you can retire an opponent column that is same as this unit. The difference between other first vanguard is that this unit does not need to move to the soul for the skill to work, and that makes it even better, and of course your opponent will try different ways to avoid this card ability to be activated. I would recommend to add it to the deck for the pressure that this card have. You rarely see first vanguard that can stay on the rear guards these days without the need to move to the soul, apart from 'Riot Horn' from 'Nova Grappler'.



It seems to me that this card is totally revived once again and not just the use of 'Seal Dragons'. Well this card can be seen every where if a Kagero deck love retiring such as 'Perdition'. I think 'Perdition' is much better than just 'Seal Dragons' because 'Seal Dragons' doesn't have their very own unflipper unit which just makes that sub clan a little disadvantage compare to the others. Now 'Perdition' can do nearly constant retiring all the time which will help to power up this card very easily as a booster, to power up your units.






'Perdition' just doesn't do retiring only, but also powering up as well, such as these two cards along with 'Whirlwind Dragon'. So we can just say 'Perdition' have a mixture of everything within just that one sub clan, which is quite amazing really. I think this is my first time to see a sub clan that has a bit of everything in one set and not separate sets unlike other sub clans. Of course some things you cannot keep the clan pure, and have to add extra things especially if it is Legion. Well, if these cards was non Legion, I would made it a pure 'Perdition' deck, well maybe just a few changes and not a lot.
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Cherry on September 19, 2014, 11:03:17 AM
Why not just Dauntless for your second Grade 3?
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: colonel830303 on September 19, 2014, 11:15:25 AM
Why not just Dauntless for your second Grade 3?

I guess its because Dauntless is a non-perdition unit, which means you cannot use Manace Laser's skill while Dauntless is on VG(same thing for whirlwind). Plus pure legion deck is 10x faster than BR/Legion hybrid since he doesn't run the LB4 enabler.
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Cherry on September 19, 2014, 11:18:20 AM
So why not just hold off on using it or use it during your Turn 2?
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Dullahan on September 19, 2014, 11:30:58 AM
why not just use 7 grade 3s?
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: colonel830303 on September 19, 2014, 11:37:16 AM
So why not just hold off on using it or use it during your Turn 2?

personally I find Laser/Newt deck more comfortable to use just so you can shuffle back triggers with higher chance. If you run newt only chances are you might discard 1 precious G3 w/ the legion skill instead of reriding and shuffling back triggers.
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Cherry on September 19, 2014, 11:48:30 AM
There is that and that is understandable, but Pain Laser is just... really vanilla. Dauntless makes Vortex more likely to end the game with crazy as hell (GET IT BECAUSE FIRE AND HOT AND-) power levels. Though, if you'd want a backup Legion, I feel like The Great or Breakdown would be a better choice, but that's my own personal preference (Vortex + Neoflames are hilarious). It's good Pain Laser is at 2 so it doesn't take up too much space.
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Dullahan on September 19, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
my verdict- take out manace and pain/Elham, and put in Breakdown and Tarayev if you really want to use 6 grade 3s.
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: colonel830303 on September 19, 2014, 12:10:33 PM
There is that and that is understandable, but Pain Laser is just... really vanilla. Dauntless makes Vortex more likely to end the game with crazy as hell (GET IT BECAUSE FIRE AND HOT AND-) power levels. Though, if you'd want a backup Legion, I feel like The Great or Breakdown would be a better choice, but that's my own personal preference (Vortex + Neoflames are hilarious). It's good Pain Laser is at 2 so it doesn't take up too much space.

Totally forgot about The Great >_< but my concern with the Great+Newt is that they work in different ways(with Newt you need Mareiko to unflip, while if you sit on the Great 80% of the chance Mareiko is just a vanila).

Breakdown+Newt is not a viable choice imo(eats up too much cb while newt is already cb heavy).
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Cherry on September 19, 2014, 12:23:56 PM
Great not being compatible with Mareiko or Mareisei makes me sad. ;_;

Though Breakdown can work solely because of the mass of unflipping. ... You know, if you're lucky and a God has a mercy on you to give you at least one Mareiko to wipe 2 columns for minimal counterblasting.
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Dullahan on September 19, 2014, 12:25:12 PM
well if he fits Tarayev in somewhere, it potentially becomes 19k from either Pain Laser or Dragonnewt.
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: ヤタ on September 21, 2014, 10:14:37 AM
 Please change the title to be more enlightening~
-ヤタ
Title: Re: [Kagero]Tested Powerful Deck
Post by: Umer~ on September 21, 2014, 10:58:40 AM
roger that