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Title: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Ibuki Kouji on March 19, 2015, 07:40:11 AM
When this unit's attack hits a vanguard, if this unit's [Power] is 45000 or greater, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose one of your opponent's rear-guards, and your opponent puts it into his or her damage zone face down.

This units skill so confusing...... <,< My question is that when attack hits 4 damage and his skill used a card from rc to damage 5 cards in damage (It's not a damage check) so then next rg atatck said ng and get 1 damage... cards in damage become 6 so game over? this is the problem <,<
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: [T-SP] Access on March 19, 2015, 09:50:34 AM
If your asking if when my opp is at 4 dmg and X falcon's attack that is 45k or higher hits, Opp would currently be at 5 dmg and then using X falcon skill choose up to 1 of your opp RG and put it facedown in their damage zone which yes means the opp lose(It is not counted as a trigger check so even if a heal was placed facedown no heal.

However if you are trying to say my opp is at 3 dmg i attack with X Falcon with 45k or higher, attack hits, opp would be at 4 dmg then using X Falcon skill, he/she would choose 1 RG and be placed in their dmg zone making it 5 dmg.
Im not sure what do you mean by the "so then next rg atatck said ng and get 1 damage... cards in damage become 6 so game over? this is the problem <,<" Cos if your Opp is alr at 5 dmg after using X Falcon skill and u used a RG to attack his VG and he/she ng the 6 dmg would be deal normally which yes he would lose but that isnt anything related to X Falcon skill.
*(Unless you are asking if the facedown dmg counts as a dmg then yes it will count and opp would lose normally)
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Ibuki Kouji on March 19, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
The wiki user said this
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It counts as placing the card in the damage zone, but it's not a damage (for skills that require damage)
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: [T-SP] Access on March 19, 2015, 01:25:41 PM
I think he is saying that in regards to Clans like Angel Feathers where like if a dmg is placed in your dmg zone, u can use "said skill". Im not sure what does he mean by its not a dmg cos if its not a dmg then why even have the effect to begin with. like if the placed card isnt treated as a damage isnt there like no gd reason of doing so then. to top that off, it even helps yr opp plus (AF is an eg) or have more dmg to cb in the case opp uses card effects to unflip the card.
I think there was some messed up info going on there. its probably treated as a normal dmg and counts for total dmg count so u would lose if u have 6 cards in the dmg zone including the one dealed by X falcon skill.
The only way i think he may have actually wanted to interpret it was that it isnt a "Damage" since it doesn't technically "Damage you aka goes to the trigger zone and check then hit the damage zone" its more of like moving cards from zones. cos like u wont say that u took damage when u activate an AF skill and move units from the dmg zone to the hand/RC/GC so yea... "Damage" in this sense wont be the exact term to be used when u use the AF skill.
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Cherry on March 19, 2015, 06:43:39 PM
The person on the wiki is wrong unless he's saying the skill is not a Damage Check.

Angel Feathers and New Era Beast Zeal all trigger from X Falcon's skill. 

The skill isn't really confusing. If you hit, they damage check for their fifth damage. If you use the skill, you move their rearguard over for their sixth damage. The card can win the game with this skill.
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Ibuki Kouji on March 19, 2015, 11:32:09 PM
The person on the wiki is wrong unless he's saying the skill is not a Damage Check.

Angel Feathers and New Era Beast Zeal all trigger from X Falcon's skill. 

The skill isn't really confusing. If you hit, they damage check for their fifth damage. If you use the skill, you move their rearguard over for their sixth damage. The card can win the game with this skill.

Really the person in wiki is wrong? <,< god the one who said that to me is admin of the wikia.
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Sinon~ on March 20, 2015, 12:26:48 AM
Wikia people aren't that bright to be honest so they do get quite a lot of things wrong.
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Ibuki Kouji on March 20, 2015, 12:44:29 AM
So who should i believe now? <,< so hard now. well i will go with cherry. that is better for me ^.^
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Cherry on March 20, 2015, 02:09:51 AM
It's not a Damage Check, so triggers and such don't do anything. But it's placing a card in the damage zone, which triggers any skills that activate from that.

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140429170742/cardfight/images/thumb/b/b2/BT13-009EN-RR.png/273px-BT13-009EN-RR.png)

This card can be activated upon X Falcon's moving something to damage as an example. (Though it can't save you from X Falcon's fatal sixth damage.)
Title: Re: Super Cosmic Hero, X Falcon
Post by: Ibuki Kouji on March 20, 2015, 03:43:39 AM
Ok thanks for all of your help.... ^,^ now i can use him without any problem.