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Title: Chat ban
Post by: penguin90 on July 20, 2015, 12:23:50 AM

Hmmm, wish i could think of a better name but its 5am and brain isnt in creative mode  ;)
Then again i wasnt gonna say anything except for something that was said after i got banned....what was it??
Oh yeah apparently i am an "ungrateful brat that likes to pick fights". So in living up to the expectations of my peers, I made this thread for other users enjoyment..ahem.. i mean to request a explanation for my current ban and any previous ones i still have WP for with screenshots if possible.

P.S. if you dont have screenshots i probably dont care enough and btw what am i ungrateful for again?

Title: Re: Chat ban
Post by: Cherry on July 20, 2015, 12:28:19 AM

You openly provoked Hyoma by calling him a moron.

You've been let off the hook more than you should be for the amount of fights you usually start by calling everyone around you idiots. I called you an "ungrateful brat" because you should have been gone a long time ago like Sinon should've been, but you didn't seem to take that as a hint to stop doing it.

And your WP is from doing this over, and over, and over, AND OVER.

Title: Re: Chat ban
Post by: penguin90 on July 20, 2015, 12:56:52 AM

So....em, what about the one before the most recent one assuming that brought me from 6 to 9
and since we are the topic what gave me 6 anyway
also you didnt answer my question
WHAT.IS.IT.THAT.I.SHOULD.BE.GRATEFUL.FOR????
also since you just banned me
isnt that openly provocative??
in which case shouldnt you be banned too??

Title: Re: Chat ban
Post by: Cherry on July 20, 2015, 01:23:26 AM

You should be grateful that you constantly got off the hook.

What brought you from 6 to 9 was calling Hope a douche about him not answering your GSE questions. Which was almost 6 to 12 for calling Blaster rubbish (something about his deck compared to someone else's).

I don't get how banning you is proactive since it's not picking a fight. Me calling you a brat is, but that would only put me on 3 WP. 4 is a 24 Hour ban.

Title: Re: Chat ban
Post by: penguin90 on July 20, 2015, 03:29:12 AM

Examples please??
That ban in itself was somewhat flawed. Lets start with that fact that you gave me the WP several hours after i made those comments. Secondly, there was a mod on at the time and how come they didnt do anything about it?? Thirdly, is hope himself not a mod?? So if he actually cared/found that insulting he could easily give me WP/take it up with me,right?? Finally, in what way did talking to people about a certain user being extremely unpleasant while they arent even there infringe on harrassment, insults or provocation??
OH you admit to something. Well thats a surprise and here i thought you were too stuck up for that. I will give you credit for that.
and you dodged the second question
what gave me 6?

Title: Re: Chat ban
Post by: Cherry on July 20, 2015, 03:41:03 AM

I can't remember what gave you 3 and 6.

http://i.imgur.com/W7ULbNn.png
http://i.imgur.com/tUg6Qvg.png

I wasn't even awake at the time. I woke up to hearing about the Blaster one, then I was informed of the shot at Hope later. The ban isn't "flawed", it'd be "late". I don't know why you weren't WP'd/banned by the others but all that matters is that it eventually happened. What makes you think you can get away with provoking someone behind their back just because they aren't online at the time to complain about it? Especially out in the open? We had a conversation how you didn't have to resort to insulting Hope by calling him a douche. I told you about using an alternative:

Spoiler

emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:01:56 PM): i can understand the second one whuch was a joke btw so if blaster took that srsly i apologise but the first one i see nothing wron with
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:02:19 PM): I mean you called him a douche outright.
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:02:36 PM): which he was
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:03:13 PM): If you wanna apologize to Blaster, I can drop that 3 WP. But coupled up with you still occassionally firing shots by calling people idiots or the like is a ban that was coming for a good while tbh.
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:04:06 PM): when i asked multiple times for some reform and even offered to help with that but was rewarded with a sarcastic acceptance
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:04:14 PM): that fits the bill perfectly
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:04:30 PM): what reform?
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:04:39 PM): the TDs for the GSE
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:04:47 PM): are ridiculous
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:05:04 PM): i mean you still couldve gone about it without resorting to calling him a douche
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:05:52 PM): what wordd(s) do you propose i use instead
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:05:57 PM): word*
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:06:17 PM): you couldve said like
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:06:36 PM): "Could you not brush me off with a sarcastic response when all I'm trying to do is help?"
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:07:07 PM): he wasnt on at the time and this was to other people while explaining why i opposed the GSE
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:07:22 PM): the word "douche" conveyed my feelings about hope perfectly
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:07:46 PM): then you couldve said "I wish Hope wouldn't just brush me off with a sarcastic response when all I wanted to do was help."
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:07:59 PM): the word "douche" is shorter and easier but it's insulting and provoking
emperorpenguin90 (6/27/15 7:08:23 PM): fine
cherryhope (6/27/15 7:09:26 PM): i'll take all 3 wp since you were joking and you want to apologize to blaster, but you're still banned for the week

Title: Re: Chat ban
Post by: Moe Shinkō on July 20, 2015, 08:23:39 AM

We don't save logs of every single WP moment of every user; Well actually, we do save screenshots in the Skype group and share it when the WP itself is handed out. In case of appeals or if any other mod feels if the action itself was unrightfully taken. So we could possibly find your WP history but it'll take a long ass time and nobody is going to do that, we don't have that much free time.

That being said, my point is, you can't ask for your complete WP history. Only of the screenshot or the moment of when you received your most recent WP. Whenever you're given a WP, a mod usually informs you and then we add it in. Afterwards, if you feel if your most recent WP handed out was unjust, you can freely appeal on the basis if you have a solid reasoning or argument as to why it was wrong.

Also, Cherry.

>I called you an "ungrateful brat" because you should have been gone a long time ago like Sinon should've been

Regardless of how you feel about him, saying that to him is wrong and provoking, he is right about that. To which you should apologize.

Title: Re: Chat ban
Post by: Cherry on July 20, 2015, 08:05:50 PM

I apologize for calling you an ungrateful brat.

I felt my kindness had been repeatedly thrown in my face, which is why I said that. Even though I shouldn't have.