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Cardfight!! Vanguard => CF!!V Discussion => Topic started by: Lance Korilum on May 11, 2014, 11:48:22 PM
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The title is pretty self-explanatory. Do you prefer Legion or Limit Break, and why?
I personally prefer Limit Break. Saying "Limit Break" sounds better than saying "Legion Skill" to me, and I'm a fan of the concept of Limit Breaks in general. The limiting to Late game doesn't bother me too much, and I just like the units that have Limit Break better than most of the units that have Legion. I also have beat Legion on multiple occasions with Limit Break decks, though that might just be the users of the Legions. Also, my third most hated unit to ever exist is a Legion.... Freaking Sin Buster >_>
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I prefer Legion simply because LB feels too automated for me.
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Legion, since you can use it early in game.
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Yea I would prefer Legion over Limit Break myself. If I had a Legion in my own clan. Limit Break is too slow in most cases.
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Legion or Limit Break, that is a good question.
I have used Legion, and the worst form of it, for the opponent at least, Mr Sin Buster. Yes I can say it is good, easy and fast. Guard early and you will have 4 units in Drop Zone in order to "Seek Mato". Also Quintet Walls are quite useful making top 5 guard, then drop, then recycle back to deck to activate Legion skill. From that point of of view Legion---Mate is better.
But I still prefer Limit Break. As it is already said, I prefer declearing "Limito Breaku!" than "Seek Mato" and "Legion". Limit Break and furthermore Ultimate Break are skills used in late game. That means that you have to wait to have 4 damages which is kinda slow. But Limit Break can help you to turn around your game gaining a good skill which, except form giving advantage, it can "Final Taan" your opponent.
P.S.: If Break Ride is inside this comparison of Limit Break and Legion, I would be neutral.
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P.S.: If Break Ride is inside this comparison of Limit Break and Legion, I would be neutral.
Breakrides are Limit Breaks they count as the same thing.
A part of me wants to take my original answer back simply because of how Breakride and Legion can work together in some cases but my original reason still stands in the mix case that going for the Limit Break is slower. I still think on their own Legion is far better for all the things it can do depending on the deck.
Also this thread should have a poll so we can get a idea of where the fourm stands.
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Well i agree that LB is too automatic, that's why i'm glad legion was released, but i prefer LB. Not because is automatic, but because it has mroe options, so far there are no legion units that makes me say "This will be my ace" and there are lots of LB units that i like. This may change in the future tho.
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I'd use both and work with what i have to win from there. If you guarded properly or played correctly they should both be active near the same time anyways
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I'd say Legion. Mainly because you can use it early, but I pretty much like the idea of having 2 Vanguards. Even if it goes against that concept of being "inside" the Vanguard.
Still like Limit Break, though. Like said above, it's nicer to say and all~
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i prefer legion cause i dont have to wait for 4 damage to use skill
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I prefer Limit Break because i am not very good in handling Legions but once the Liberator Legion Comes out i will use both i guess
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The title is pretty self-explanatory. Do you prefer Legion or Limit Break, and why?
I personally prefer Limit Break. Saying "Limit Break" sounds better than saying "Legion Skill" to me, and I'm a fan of the concept of Limit Breaks in general. The limiting to Late game doesn't bother me too much, and I just like the units that have Limit Break better than most of the units that have Legion. I also have beat Legion on multiple occasions with Limit Break decks, though that might just be the users of the Legions. Also, my third most hated unit to ever exist is a Legion.... Freaking Sin Buster >_>
Yeah I find Limit Breaks to be better because of the reason that legions dont require any damage making it easier to use meaning less skill involved. that's just my opinion though but I find both to be good.
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Legion or Limit Break huh... Good question. I don't really know which one I prefer. The 2 are completely different. Limit Break is meant to be used late game and win, or turn the tide of a fight. Legion on the other hand, can be used early game, especially if you use QW as someone mentioned already, which means you can really pressure your opponent. I prefer saying ''Limit Break'' rather than ''Legion'' or ''Seek mate'' myself, but I don't think what you declare when activating some kind of skill should affect which one you find better or prefer. I personally believe you should state your opinion on the skills. Plus, Legion seems kinda powerfull right now,especially for some clans, because not every clan has it yet.
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Legion or Limit Break huh... Good question. I don't really know which one I prefer. The 2 are completely different. Limit Break is meant to be used late game and win, or turn the tide of a fight. Legion on the other hand, can be used early game, especially if you use QW as someone mentioned already, which means you can really pressure your opponent. I prefer saying ''Limit Break'' rather than ''Legion'' or ''Seek mate'' myself, but I don't think what you declare when activating some kind of skill should affect which one you find better or prefer. I personally believe you should state your opinion on the skills. Plus, Legion seems kinda powerfull right now,especially for some clans, because not every clan has it yet.
Yeah i have a feeling seekers/metalborg etc are gonna be less used once the new ones come out lol. seekers strategy is obv and metalborg yeah same lol. at least with brawlers etc u can totally whreck there field and musketeers can reswarm with ease so glad imnot seeing as many seeker/metalborg users lol.
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Legion or Limit Break huh... Good question. I don't really know which one I prefer. The 2 are completely different. Limit Break is meant to be used late game and win, or turn the tide of a fight. Legion on the other hand, can be used early game, especially if you use QW as someone mentioned already, which means you can really pressure your opponent. I prefer saying ''Limit Break'' rather than ''Legion'' or ''Seek mate'' myself, but I don't think what you declare when activating some kind of skill should affect which one you find better or prefer. I personally believe you should state your opinion on the skills. Plus, Legion seems kinda powerfull right now,especially for some clans, because not every clan has it yet.
Yeah i have a feeling seekers/metalborg etc are gonna be less used once the new ones come out lol. seekers strategy is obv and metalborg yeah same lol. at least with brawlers etc u can totally whreck there field and musketeers can reswarm with ease so glad imnot seeing as many seeker/metalborg users lol.
Indeed. Personally, I believe Metalborgs are topping from the clans that have legion...Daikaiser + Uru Buster + laurel is to damn mainstream and annoying...They keep doing that..you can't guard with g1 or above..so no null or QW...it has 2 criticals..if you guard with alot of g0's and they get g3 they retire your guardians...and then they stand to attack again...I really think that needs a restriction...
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Legion or Limit Break huh... Good question. I don't really know which one I prefer. The 2 are completely different. Limit Break is meant to be used late game and win, or turn the tide of a fight. Legion on the other hand, can be used early game, especially if you use QW as someone mentioned already, which means you can really pressure your opponent. I prefer saying ''Limit Break'' rather than ''Legion'' or ''Seek mate'' myself, but I don't think what you declare when activating some kind of skill should affect which one you find better or prefer. I personally believe you should state your opinion on the skills. Plus, Legion seems kinda powerfull right now,especially for some clans, because not every clan has it yet.
Yeah i have a feeling seekers/metalborg etc are gonna be less used once the new ones come out lol. seekers strategy is obv and metalborg yeah same lol. at least with brawlers etc u can totally whreck there field and musketeers can reswarm with ease so glad imnot seeing as many seeker/metalborg users lol.
Indeed. Personally, I believe Metalborgs are topping from the clans that have legion...Daikaiser + Uru Buster + laurel is to damn mainstream and annoying...They keep doing that..you can't guard with g1 or above..so no null or QW...it has 2 criticals..if you guard with alot of g0's and they get g3 they retire your guardians...and then they stand to attack again...I really think that needs a restriction...
Yeah so far decks like Shadow blaze , tempest, brawlers etc i find to beat them quite easily or 12 crit galaxy cause any front row blau hits vg bam vg stands back up lol o and rebirth as well lol. the decks i can win easiest with vs them and form lol take early dmg to have 4 then breakride form and LB and win teh game right there cause ppl tend to waste there hand guarding early game just to legion which leaves them defenseless late game.
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Legion or Limit Break huh... Good question. I don't really know which one I prefer. The 2 are completely different. Limit Break is meant to be used late game and win, or turn the tide of a fight. Legion on the other hand, can be used early game, especially if you use QW as someone mentioned already, which means you can really pressure your opponent. I prefer saying ''Limit Break'' rather than ''Legion'' or ''Seek mate'' myself, but I don't think what you declare when activating some kind of skill should affect which one you find better or prefer. I personally believe you should state your opinion on the skills. Plus, Legion seems kinda powerfull right now,especially for some clans, because not every clan has it yet.
Yeah i have a feeling seekers/metalborg etc are gonna be less used once the new ones come out lol. seekers strategy is obv and metalborg yeah same lol. at least with brawlers etc u can totally whreck there field and musketeers can reswarm with ease so glad imnot seeing as many seeker/metalborg users lol.
Indeed. Personally, I believe Metalborgs are topping from the clans that have legion...Daikaiser + Uru Buster + laurel is to damn mainstream and annoying...They keep doing that..you can't guard with g1 or above..so no null or QW...it has 2 criticals..if you guard with alot of g0's and they get g3 they retire your guardians...and then they stand to attack again...I really think that needs a restriction...
Yeah so far decks like Shadow blaze , tempest, brawlers etc i find to beat them quite easily or 12 crit galaxy cause any front row blau hits vg bam vg stands back up lol o and rebirth as well lol. the decks i can win easiest with vs them and form lol take early dmg to have 4 then breakride form and LB and win teh game right there cause ppl tend to waste there hand guarding early game just to legion which leaves them defenseless late game.
Meh, I find early guarding just to use Legion being stupid. If you want to get your drop zone to 4 cards fast that bad, run QW, use it once early and there you go. Early guarding can reduce your shield by a noteworthy ammount....even tho experienced players are sure to not be hindered alot, if any, by this.
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If I have a couple of triggers in my hand, I will use them because I want them back to my deck. If I don't have then, I will guard only with if it is absolutely necessary to do it or it can be easily repelled by a 5k shield.
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I prefer Limit break. It gives you bit more of a rush needing to be a 4 damage or higher to pull off a potential game turning skill. Though I'm loving legion just because I think attacking with a dual vanguard is sweet. Though I like the idea of legion, I dislike the title of the effects. There are cooler words than "Buddy" and "Mate"
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Blasta If ya find powerful the Combo of Sin Buster+Daikaiser+Luarel, wait till you face Raizer Legion+Butler Cat. That combo is even worse :p
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Blasta If ya find powerful the Combo of Sin Buster+Daikaiser+Luarel, wait till you face Raizer Legion+Butler Cat. That combo is even worse :p
I've already fought that a couple of times. But I personally believe the DP one is worse, since you can't use PG or QW, and even if you guard, with the BR skill it's a higher chance to hit. If it hits, you have to face another 30k+ attack most likely, with 2 criticals, unable to use PG or QW...
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I've already fought that a couple of times. But I personally believe the DP one is worse, since you can't use PG or QW, and even if you guard, with the BR skill it's a higher chance to hit. If it hits, you have to face another 30k+ attack most likely, with 2 criticals, unable to use PG or QW...
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I'd say that cat-butler is worse, since it cancels the point of guarding completely. Where as you can stop a Sin buster with enough effort/luck. Raizer just punches right through and laughs at quintet walls but I can defiantly see your point.
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I prefer Legion to Limit Break, since I don't have to wait till I'm at 4 damage to start making my big plays, and I love the idea of having 2 Vanguards attacking side by side. I love using Sin Buster so much, but I can see why people dislike it. Limit Breaks have been fun for me, but I think its time for Legion to shine. I'm not saying Limit Breaks can't defeat Legions, but I think the game needed a new mechanic to keep things fresh, since we've already had 2 seasons of Limit Breaks.
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That's a tough question. I mean with legion, games are shorter, because unlike LB4, you don't have to wait around, your goal is basically to setup everything as soon as possible to fill your grave with at least 4 things and swing for 20k+ each turn and use their various effects early on. In LB4, you had to wait, wait till you got your BR, wait till you got to 4 and then try to stay around 4. I suppose if I had to sum it up, LB4=take your time to kill/be killed. Legion=Hopefully steamroll them before they steamroll you, go go go! That being said hmmm which do I like... I'd have to say though I loved LB4, you no longer have to dance along the 'razors' edge with getting to four damage and pray they don't get you with a crit trigger in Legion, so... I guess Legion. The only thing I hate about legion at the moment is that damn butler cat and NG's easy abuse of it.
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Well you could just say that People have different tastes and styles which is one of the interesting factors of Cardfight Vanguard, though Legion truly is broken and will become even more broken than before with time, it is still just a Play style.
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The title is pretty self-explanatory. Do you prefer Legion or Limit Break, and why?
I personally prefer Limit Break. Saying "Limit Break" sounds better than saying "Legion Skill" to me, and I'm a fan of the concept of Limit Breaks in general. The limiting to Late game doesn't bother me too much, and I just like the units that have Limit Break better than most of the units that have Legion. I also have beat Legion on multiple occasions with Limit Break decks, though that might just be the users of the Legions. Also, my third most hated unit to ever exist is a Legion.... Freaking Sin Buster >_>
i like Legion more than limit break because legion can help us from deck out and we can keep getting triggers :)
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I first of course, I didn't like the idea of Legion. Sudden power boost from LB4. The timeline of the evolution of cards is: Normal > LB4/LB5 > BR > Legion. And the idea of returning 4 cards to deck was insane. Well... at first. But after watching the anime and seeing it in action, I guess it's not that bad. Anyways, Limit Break is good but it takes time to set up your field and do your strategies. Legion... well, not that long. Guard as early in the game or even 1 quintet wall is enough for the Legion. Truly, it would take the most skilled of fighters to defeat a legion deck with LB. But it is a mismatch of conflicting abilities. LB is fit to match against another LB so they'd kill each other off one turn after another. Legion is better to fight with another legion. I like LB but now... especially with them witches, I love Legion.
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I far prefer Legion to Limit Break. I hated how during the Limit Break era, decks would be restricted to lategame before they could do anything. In Season 2, it wasn't so bad since some midgame bosses were still printed, and the Season 1 decks were still plenty viable. However, when Season 3 hit, for a good chunk of the season, if you wanted a competitive deck that wasn't named Revengers, you weren't doing crap until lategame. Legion finally returns us to midgame, while simeaultaneously encouraging early guarding - in comparison to Limit Break, which would cause many newer players to think it best to rush to 4 damage, which is an absolutely terrible idea.
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for narukami, i prefer LB 'couse nerukami's legion it's just focus on retire not crit like eradicator or blood.
but for NN, i prefer legion 'couse the skill is more like him. use drop zone for cost to call RG.
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Both are equally good.
Limit Breaks are stronger, but can only be used late game.
Legion is great early.
It all depends on the deck really. I prefer Legion now that Quintets are useful.
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I prefer legion because...
1)The card art when put together is really cool
2)The game mostly no longer focuses on late game and now has early game aggression
3) You can turn a whole game around if you use your legion correctly
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I have never liked Limit Break because you would need four damage before you can do the cards main skills. I am very happy about Legion because it doesn't have that restriction. Furthermore, Legion has near to no clan restrictions and I really liked that as well.
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Okay, so question for everyone about Legion and Quintet Walls. Why is it that people seem to believe that Quintet Walls are better in the Legion format? The only new usage is for getting more units in the drop, but wasting a Sentinel so early (and relying on getting a Sentinel early) seems rather wasteful. Not to mention you'd have to run 4 Quintet Walls, and completely disregard Perfect Guards, to make this play any kind of consistent. This is of course extremely foolish in this format, because Legion also makes it pretty easy for Vanguards to swing for 31k. Considering the average shield a Quintet Wall gets is 25k, this would only be enough shield for a 1-to-hit, so for no-hit or 2-to-hit amounts of shielding, you'll need to drop another card in average, so you just spent as much as your hand as you would with a Perfect Guard, while also wasting a Counterblast. Oops.
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Okay, so question for everyone about Legion and Quintet Walls. Why is it that people seem to believe that Quintet Walls are better in the Legion format? The only new usage is for getting more units in the drop, but wasting a Sentinel so early (and relying on getting a Sentinel early) seems rather wasteful. Not to mention you'd have to run 4 Quintet Walls, and completely disregard Perfect Guards, to make this play any kind of consistent. This is of course extremely foolish in this format, because Legion also makes it pretty easy for Vanguards to swing for 31k. Considering the average shield a Quintet Wall gets is 25k, this would only be enough shield for a 1-to-hit, so for no-hit or 2-to-hit amounts of shielding, you'll need to drop another card in average, so you just spent as much as your hand as you would with a Perfect Guard, while also wasting a Counterblast. Oops.
Actually you are right, but if I think that most people would use quintet wall just to discard 5 cards. This way you are already set up for legion. It's actually not a bad idea but running 4 quintet wall might be pretty risky.
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I like both Legion and Limit Break
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I always loved Limit break because I could scream LIMIT BREAK!!!!!!!And Legion too that away from me but now I just scream LEGION BONDSSSSS!!!!!!!! so I'm neutral
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I always loved Limit break because I could scream LIMIT BREAK!!!!!!!And Legion too that away from me but now I just scream LEGION BONDSSSSS!!!!!!!! so I'm neutral
I thought People scream SEEK MATE!!! :v
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Well limit break is weaker than legion in terms of power but some clans that don't have legion yet make up that difference with their limit break limit break and legion are pretty equal it depends on the clan i have lost a lot of times to a normal limit break deck with legion and the opposite but it's up to the player to decide what he likes more going all out power at first or keeping it for late game with strategy and turn the fight then. by the way "LIMITO BREAKU" is better than "seek mate" so i will go with limit break :D
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I always loved Limit break because I could scream LIMIT BREAK!!!!!!!And Legion too that away from me but now I just scream LEGION BONDSSSSS!!!!!!!! so I'm neutral
I thought People scream SEEK MATE!!! :v
Sounds lame as heck...
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I always loved Limit break because I could scream LIMIT BREAK!!!!!!!And Legion too that away from me but now I just scream LEGION BONDSSSSS!!!!!!!! so I'm neutral
I thought People scream SEEK MATE!!! :v
Sounds lame as heck...
I've seen people using the expression "Mating Season" lol
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I prefer both but I would like more Legion also because it is much better than Limit Break.
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Legion. But same, Sin Buster is too OP already. At least genesis doesnt have so much support for CEO