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Cardfight!! Vanguard => Help => Topic started by: Lance Korilum on June 13, 2014, 10:17:54 PM

Title: Abuse in the Shuffling System
Post by: Lance Korilum on June 13, 2014, 10:17:54 PM

Recently, Zenith Lancer has become aware of a glitch in the shuffling system that is very easy to abuse.  After Legioning, only clicking the Shuffle button once vastly increases the chance of getting triggers.  We have tested it, and do believe it to be true.  It is not a guarantee trigger, but it does increase the odds.  We already know that CFA tracks triggers vs. non-triggers, so it is not surprising that this is possible.  One of our team members was aware of this glitch previously, as well, even in the previous update.  I don't understand how this is still there with the change in shuffling algorithms, but it apparently us.

Title: Re: Abuse in the Shuffling System
Post by: Magus TSS on June 13, 2014, 10:43:01 PM

Legion of course... Of course your going to have a higher chance at a trigger at the top of your deck.
Your returning triggers to your deck most likely in every case. You shuffle and it randomly shuffles the cards. Even if you returned all non triggers returned as long as there is a trigger in the deck it has a chance to give you a trigger if there is triggers in the deck. There's no glitch here. It's just complete random chance. If it exist in the deck still it can happen weather it's in your favor or not. Hitting the shuffle button once makes no difference as if you did it 1,000 times. It will shuffle the cards and it always be random.

Title: Re: Abuse in the Shuffling System
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on June 13, 2014, 11:00:31 PM

I didn't tested it yet but it doesn't seem to make any sense, i mean the same shuffling system from your first shuffle will be the one used in the second and so on,.

Title: Re: Abuse in the Shuffling System
Post by: Raikou on June 13, 2014, 11:01:04 PM

Test 1
With Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/1_zps9925bfc4.png)

Without Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/2_zpsb5704cec.png)

Test 2
With Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/3_zps42d3bd77.png)

Without Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/4_zps7388753f.png)

Test 3
With Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/5_zps9baceeba.png)

Without Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/6_zps2cff8f20.png)

Title: Re: Abuse in the Shuffling System
Post by: Just on June 13, 2014, 11:35:15 PM

I came back to this forum only to say one thing:
lol

Edit: Wait... no, that's several words used... shit I goofed it. You get the point, though! :D

Title: Re: Abuse in the Shuffling System
Post by: BlueDragonz on July 07, 2014, 12:36:19 PM

Quote from: Raikou on June 13, 2014, 11:01:04 PM

Test 1
With Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/1_zps9925bfc4.png)

Without Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/2_zpsb5704cec.png)

Test 2
With Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/3_zps42d3bd77.png)

Without Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/4_zps7388753f.png)

Test 3
With Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/5_zps9baceeba.png)

Without Log

Spoiler

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w416/neko_rika/6_zps2cff8f20.png)

Maybe it's just pure luck? i dunno' but according to me that isn't a bug i've tried it several times and it's shuffling normally.
So I really don't know how you're getting this

I can even attach a pic if you want more proof