[Shadow Paladin]Abyssal Awakening

[Doctor Who]

You realise first of all....

1. Mackart call can replace the swordbreakers for a revenger copy anyway so why would you take such a good abuse usage of draw power out of the deck. AND provides for legion.

2. Mordred is a very good tech card to have in case you do not have Abyss in hand which doesn't always happen so its a great backup and works with Judgebau.

3. Abyss will rip out Sentinals regardless cause of its obscene 4 drive checks.

4. 4 Grade 3 is not a great idea as there is no proper way to search for a grade 3 in any scenario. That is just poor use.

5. The logic saying "more grade 1 or higher you call, more triggers you get" Is not true at all....

It depends on your deck ratio and how well you play that matters most. Not the trigger count as with Abyss. It does not matter if you get triggers or not. The sheer power abusage and retiring and calling factor will always be beneficial.

1. A standing unit vs a resting unit. I preffer the first. Also, Mackart can help you to replace just one, not two of them.
2. Break Ride era is finished. The whole point of Legion is to have a strong mid game presence. If you are feeling insecure, than you may run the other Mackart's Legion but not the Break Ride. 
3. At least we agree at something.
4. Poor use is when you don't arrange your deck properly (not just by grades). As soon as you ride the alternative, you can say "I surrender".  There is no point riding it. I have tried difference versions and the one I wrote about was best fitting for me.  Also, I dunno if you play the game from the beginning but before the crossrides, the JPN ran from 4 to 6 grade 3. The started to run 8 grade 3 when crossride appeared and caused a habbit to run 7/8.
5. "Thanks to this massive superior calling and Legion you will increase the chances of getting triggers". I always try to be precise in my statements and on this one I wasn't quite precise but if you want I will continue "...during mid and late game". I hoped this continuation would be kind of understood.

[Cherry]

2. Break Ride era is finished. The whole point of Legion is to have a strong mid game presence. If you are feeling insecure, than you may run the other Mackart's Legion but not the Break Ride. 

4. Poor use is when you don't arrange your deck properly (not just by grades). As soon as you ride the alternative, you can say "I surrender".  There is no point riding it. I have tried difference versions and the one I wrote about was best fitting for me.  Also, I dunno if you play the game from the beginning but before the crossrides, the JPN ran from 4 to 6 grade 3. The started to run 8 grade 3 when crossride appeared and caused a habbit to run 7/8.

The Break Ride era being finished doesn't mean Break Rides won't be played and aren't still useful. The majority of Kagero decks are still playing Dauntless even though it takes a massive chunk out of the hand to play and isn't a "Perdition" unit. Yes Legion is for a strong early-mid game, but Break Riding and Legioning is for an extremely decisive endgame. In here, the off chance of a 32k Restander can potentially end the game at any time or tear the opponent's hand to shreds ultimately limiting all of their plays in that one turn.

If the alternative you mean is Cormac, I'd really like to know why you'd say "I surrender" or there's no point when Cormac's critical gain is all but free (retiring 1 isn't anything in Revengers), it's one of the amazing +3000 Legions, and drops the Swordbreakers. If you meant something else, never mind this bit.

[AloisTrancy]

I understand the use of mordred, but honestly I kind of agree with Doctor Who on this one. In Shadow Paladins,w ithout the Enabler, I'd say using mordred is just holding you back. It can create a strong end game, but Abyss is meant to be heavy mid game pressure that leads into end game pressure, such as Cormac or another Abyss ride if you have the cbs for it. If you really wanted to run a Limit Breaker for your end game, I'd suggest Raging Form Dragon. Simple because it's a CBs  11k that essentially restands with +10k.

[Doctor Who]

The Break Ride era being finished doesn't mean Break Rides won't be played and aren't still useful. The majority of Kagero decks are still playing Dauntless even though it takes a massive chunk out of the hand to play and isn't a "Perdition" unit. Yes Legion is for a strong early-mid game, but Break Riding and Legioning is for an extremely decisive endgame. In here, the off chance of a 32k Restander can potentially end the game at any time or tear the opponent's hand to shreds ultimately limiting all of their plays in that one turn.

If the alternative you mean is Cormac, I'd really like to know why you'd say "I surrender" or there's no point when Cormac's critical gain is all but free (retiring 1 isn't anything in Revengers), it's one of the amazing +3000 Legions, and drops the Swordbreakers. If you meant something else, never mind this bit.

Not that all glitters is gold. I have seen Abyss Break Ride deck. The entire strategy went to pieces because I knew that he was playing that. I kept him at 3 damage as long as I could, gathering resources. The two big attacks met my two Sentinels. The other ones I hold out and he was ot of Legion so the deck turned to vanilla.
 As for second.
ride alternative + eating a lot of early damage >>> says bad hand >>> your opponent figured it out >>> he is pushing you >>> and you get pushed and lose.

[Cherry]

Seeing the deck doesn't always mean the player using it knows what they're doing or what they should do in cases of getting edged at 3 damage. Their entire strategy didn't go to pieces because you knew what they were playing at, it fell apart because they focused too much on actually break riding. They could have easily just stopped worrying about it and just rode Abyss. It does defeat the point of two 32k swings planned, but Mordred would've still had use as a Phantom unit for Judgebau.

Why would you eat a lot of early damage if you have to ride Cormac or necessarily call it a bad hand? What stops the Revenger player from pushing back?