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Madoka
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Madoka's Shadow Witches
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August 29, 2014, 02:48:58 AM »
Starting Vanguard:
Witch of Banquet, Lir
Grade 0:
x4 ~ Black Crow Witch, Eine (Critical)
x2 ~ Grim Reaper (Critical)
x4 ~ Witch of Lizards, Alfe (Draw)
x2 ~ Freezing Revenger (Draw)
x4 ~ Black Cat Witch, Milkre
Grade 1:
x4 ~ Precious Stone Witch, Derna
x4 ~ Witch of Pursuit, Sekuna
x2 ~ Ruin Witch, Scathach
x3 ~ Revenger of Darkness, Mac Lir (Perfect Guard)
x1 ~ Barrier Witch Grainne (Quintet Wall)
Grade 2:
x4 ~ Reality Witch, Famm
x3 ~ Inspection Witch, Deidre
x2 ~ Skull Witch Nemain
x3 ~ Witch of Attraction, Adora
Grade 3:
x3 ~ Cultic Witch, Rias
x4 ~ Dazziling Witch, Fiana
Hello, my this is Madoka presenting my own deck list for Shadow Paladin Witches.
Whenever I watched games and played games with them, I've always found myself or the player with that much of a nice card advantage. Turning an opponent's units into grade 0 doesn't really produce much or any real advantage especially in certain decks where triggers actually help out the opponent as they also get out of the way. The best way for witches to gain any real advantage is by draws from Fiana's second skill so I decided to add in two Nemains (or three depending on player preference) in order to have another card that can get simple plusses started while also having a good card to kill off as a cost.
Rias while having a really amazing skill is most powerful during late game where the opponent cannot afford to take a single hit rather than mid game where the opponent can just get over the high guarding requirements by just eating the damage and possibly healing later on. So Fiana for set up and drawing, Rias for finishing.~
I don't run stands because stands make me feel uncomfortable.
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Re: Madoka's Shadow Witches
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August 29, 2014, 02:58:06 AM »
Hm deck looks good. (I'd know since I lost to it lol)
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Re: Madoka's Shadow Witches
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August 29, 2014, 04:30:17 AM »
Have you tried Arianhod? Also, you should play Creeping Dark Goat over Lir since you're not playing the Stands. I also think you can safely play 8 Criticals and 4 Draws since Fiana and Nemain give you plenty a draw engine.
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Re: Madoka's Shadow Witches
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August 29, 2014, 04:18:19 PM »
Creepying Dark Goat is 4k, which early gane begs to be 10k guarded when boosting Vanguard early game. Goat also eats up counterblast and is a possible -1. Lir at least is able to be used to pay costs and works as a very hood booster. Nemain and Fiana are +1 (Nemain is arguable +2). Witches need specific units and also with Sekuna and Rias, I have to kill something to pay the cost. 6 Draws are used to quickly get through the deck and get what I need. There is no room for Arianhod and rather actually have her attacking/boosting in any other turn other than turn 1 anyways so I can male a push to effectively end the game with Rias.
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Re: Madoka's Shadow Witches
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August 29, 2014, 04:48:10 PM »
Understandable on Goat. I just feel Lir really does nothing for you here other than pulling out Triggers you would rather have in deck. Also, I'm saying because Fiana and Nemain draw so much is why you don't need six draws to quickly skim through your deck. You have more than enough draw power as it is to get the setups you want.
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Re: Madoka's Shadow Witches
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August 29, 2014, 08:40:56 PM »
You don't see what Lir does because you read the skill text and only focus on the skill. Lir is a "Witch" and is therefore able to pay the cost for Sekuna and Rias mid to late game when she is no longer making good numbers happen as a 5k booster. If Lir doesn't do well and Goat does much worse, what starter do I use?
As for the trigger line-up, it's arguable, field gets retired, or I have to guard with the units I need so at times Nemain and Fiana aren't enough. There are also games where I draw them instead of checking them, all I can say here, is that it's all based on luck and preference.
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Re: Madoka's Shadow Witches
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August 29, 2014, 09:44:47 PM »
That's... a good point actually, never thought of it like that. I only focused on the usefulness of their skills and Goat's ability to grab Grade 3s. They don't have any better starters, but Lir is food at least.
If your trigger lineup works for you in that sense, I'll take your word for it. It's a matter of trying to end the game quicker, or being able to hold out longer. Either way, your deck seems to be able to work with both, which is great.
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