Buddyfight Client

[Dullahan]

All I know is when it comes out, I'd definitely be more active on the forum.

[Yoko Kurama]

Merry Christmas all, few questions will we have this before January or nah cause this was kinda on my XMAS list lol

[Rank Up]

Yoko Kurama, there is not actual date yet.

[Yoko Kurama]

dang i check this thing daily lol i cant wait for it XD

[Dullahan]

I guess we just have to wait until it's done.  Can't be too long, I assume

[TimPowerGamer]

One of the main reason we're all anxiously awaiting this is that the other Buddyfight simulators are (awful) slow to update, have several connection issues, and they each have their own problems.  I apologize if talk of other sims isn't allowed.  I didn't see anything like that in the rules anywhere, and I'm pretty much only mentioning how bad they are anyway.

The "Buddyfight Sim" has no lobby chat, so you can't arrange games with anyone to confirm invites if you just want to play with random people.  For the Buddyfight Sim, you are also randomly invited to a game by everyone in the room after about 5 seconds, but accepting an invite from someone that didn't actually invite you loads you into a blank game.  The chat system in-game is really poor, as well.  It can pretty much only be reliably used by individuals communicating with each other elsewhere.  This is also doubled by there never being more than a couple of users online at the same time, and usually there being no users.

Tradecardsonline has server-side issues constantly, limited game tables (which is why nobody goes there for Vanguard), and these issues couple with the account-linked games.  If you have connectivity issues and get disconnected from your game, you have to wait a whopping 30-60 minutes for it to remove itself from the game queue and invalidate the game itself.  And this happens about 30% of the games for me, either for me or my opponent.  Additionally, very few people actually know the rules for Buddyfight on there.  I spent roughly 30-40% of my time trying to educate people on counter timing, chain limits, and other such rulings.  I legitimately spend less than 20% of my time that I'm actively trying to play Buddyfight on TCO actively playing Buddyfight.

On that note, Buddyfight is a significantly more complicated game than Vanguard, so I think there should be individuals on the server who can be labeled as "Judge".  Individuals who are knowledgeable on the rules for Buddyfight in particular.  HunterSerge and myself both fit this category.  I've judged official Vanguard and Buddyfight events for Bushiroad (and can prove so), so if this is something you'd be willing to implement, I'd gladly volunteer to be a Q&A resource/make rulings for people on the client.  It would significantly increase the playing skill of the community as well, and official tournaments wouldn't have as many issues.

Also, even if the client isn't out, could we have some Buddyfight forums on here?  Pojo refuses to give us anything more than a single page, but we'd like a Decklists page, an Individual Card Discussions page, and Anime discussions page at the very least.  If you did that, I would instantaneously be active on here, as my interest in Vanguard has waned in favor of Buddyfight.

[Sirvat]

Its funny how so many people are waiting for Buddyfight  . My personally opinion is Cardfight Vanguard is much better, Buddyfight is kinda broken. Dragon world, and Ancient World  are kinda really over powered. The game needs to be more balanced.

P.S Im a fan of Buddyfight, but im not in to the anime as much,to many  goody to-shoes. I also hate Gao.

[LimitSeeker]

It is funny the anime even showed FTK when Gao faced Raoga Aogami (Even YGO doesnt show FTK that early) just to show it can be pretty broken (have you seen FTK in VG?)
But at season 4 VG lost the balance due to only few clan get a proper support, season 5 seems promising more support,I glhope VG can be more balanced in the future

[Cherry]

We can look into a Buddyfight section, but we don't need judge labels. If you know your way around the game, just share the Q&A on the forums or tell people on the client.

Also, this isn't the place to discuss which game is superior.

[LimitSeeker]

Ah ,I just realized that,I apologize for improper comment placement.This place is for discussing the client,not the cardgame itself.

[TimPowerGamer]

Ancient World has been the worst world since its release.  The Golden Buddy Pack and a few recent promos have only recently brought it up to competitive viability.  Previously, the Dungeon World trial deck was stronger than Ancient World.  Dragon World was never overpowered, just overplayed and oversupported.  Magic World and Dungeon World were the overpowered decks in the sets 1-2 and 3 formats, and even Dungeon World can be argued with because it was dominating because it was easy to get into with its trial deck, and it rewards players for playing the game properly (you get to draw cards when you kill things), which caused people to play the game properly (swinging into monsters instead of trying to end the game as fast as possible).  Once people started main-decking item destruction and realized that Dungeon World plays with an open center, and only has 4 attack negates and 4 destruction spells, we were able to see how frail it has the potential of being, in spite of its incredible toolbox.

Yes, I've performed dozens of FTK's in Vanguard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alp5Cphxi3E 

I've even FTK'd in Vanguard when my Vanguard was perfect guarded.  (Tidal Assault A -> Tidal Assault A w/ boost -> Pavroth with soul req. met was null guarded, hit a critical -> Tidal B with 2 crit -> Tidal B with 2 crit.)

Laurel + Platinum Ace + Critical Trigger on the first check can give you an instant 6 damage on turn 2.  This is how I've gotten the majority of my FTK's.

I'm not trying to turn this into a Buddyfight is better/worse than Vanguard thread.  Just dispelling these incorrect statements.

Back to the topic of the client.  A subforum alone with a Q&A or rulings section alone would be amazing.  I could see why it would be troublesome to have a judge symbol in the game.  I just want to push a system where "the correct answers" can be attained from.  Even the wiki has had incorrect rulings up for months and months (as an example, they said wait until your move phase to cast Dragobond, even though Moving occurs first, so you wouldn't be able to cast Dragobond in the first place, as you'd have a monster in your center).  Players try to rush Counter Timings as well, so if we could a Main Phase -> Move Phase -> Battle Phase step indicator, that'd be great.  Although, both players have to agree to go to the next phase before it can actually happen, so I see having phase options at all as a potential issue.  This isn't the client's fault, but people are going to play cards out of order without giving their opponents proper time to respond to their actions.  ~_~

[[ER] Patrickzzz]

Ancient World has been the worst world since its release.  The Golden Buddy Pack and a few recent promos have only recently brought it up to competitive viability.  Previously, the Dungeon World trial deck was stronger than Ancient World.  Dragon World was never overpowered, just overplayed and oversupported.  Magic World and Dungeon World were the overpowered decks in the sets 1-2 and 3 formats, and even Dungeon World can be argued with because it was dominating because it was easy to get into with its trial deck, and it rewards players for playing the game properly (you get to draw cards when you kill things), which caused people to play the game properly (swinging into monsters instead of trying to end the game as fast as possible).  Once people started main-decking item destruction and realized that Dungeon World plays with an open center, and only has 4 attack negates and 4 destruction spells, we were able to see how frail it has the potential of being, in spite of its incredible toolbox.

Yes, I've performed dozens of FTK's in Vanguard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alp5Cphxi3E 

I've even FTK'd in Vanguard when my Vanguard was perfect guarded.  (Tidal Assault A -> Tidal Assault A w/ boost -> Pavroth with soul req. met was null guarded, hit a critical -> Tidal B with 2 crit -> Tidal B with 2 crit.)

Laurel + Platinum Ace + Critical Trigger on the first check can give you an instant 6 damage on turn 2.  This is how I've gotten the majority of my FTK's.

I'm not trying to turn this into a Buddyfight is better/worse than Vanguard thread.  Just dispelling these incorrect statements.

Back to the topic of the client.  A subforum alone with a Q&A or rulings section alone would be amazing.  I could see why it would be troublesome to have a judge symbol in the game.  I just want to push a system where "the correct answers" can be attained from.  Even the wiki has had incorrect rulings up for months and months (as an example, they said wait until your move phase to cast Dragobond, even though Moving occurs first, so you wouldn't be able to cast Dragobond in the first place, as you'd have a monster in your center).  Players try to rush Counter Timings as well, so if we could a Main Phase -> Move Phase -> Battle Phase step indicator, that'd be great.  Although, both players have to agree to go to the next phase before it can actually happen, so I see having phase options at all as a potential issue.  This isn't the client's fault, but people are going to play cards out of order without giving their opponents proper time to respond to their actions.  ~_~

FTK means First Turn Kill, it's literally impossible to do it on Vanguard.

[TimPowerGamer]

Well, considering that you can't attack on the first turn if you go first, I still count a turn 2 OTK as a FTK.

A first turn kill can also be done in Vanguard by the player going second using a few contrived means.  Like them guarding a Nova Grappler Vanguard that has out three or more Cat Butlers, and them hitting critical triggers each time they restand their Vanguard.

DPolice can play grade 1 rush style, have a Vanguard swing and get a crit (2 damage), restand it with Laurel keeping another frontrow standing, attack with VG again hitting a crit (5 total damage), then swinging with the last RG for game.

Vanguard games can end just as stupid fast as any other card games.

[Dullahan]

About the whole Buddyfight FTK thing, from what I heard and read, Gao's Dracoenergy was actually rewritten at the time, solely for him to FTK Ryouga.  Not sure if this is correct or not though.

[[ER] Patrickzzz]

Well, considering that you can't attack on the first turn if you go first, I still count a turn 2 OTK as a FTK.

A first turn kill can also be done in Vanguard by the player going second using a few contrived means.  Like them guarding a Nova Grappler Vanguard that has out three or more Cat Butlers, and them hitting critical triggers each time they restand their Vanguard.

DPolice can play grade 1 rush style, have a Vanguard swing and get a crit (2 damage), restand it with Laurel keeping another frontrow standing, attack with VG again hitting a crit (5 total damage), then swinging with the last RG for game.

Vanguard games can end just as stupid fast as any other card games.

That's actually possible, as you said vanguard can end as fast as any other card game, but the probability of that happening is low. At least lower than Yu-Gi-Oh, not sure about Buddyfight since i never played it.