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Battle area => Community => Deck Discussion => Topic started by: Ren «Я» on September 02, 2014, 09:48:44 PM
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Starting Vanguard - Star-vader, Robin Knight
Triggers =
4 - Star-vader, Pixie Powder (Heal)
4- Vortex Star-vader, Molybdenum (Draw)
2- Star-vader, Jailer Tail (Draw)
3- Shockwave Star-vader, Dysprosium (Stand) To re-lock rearguards.
3- Star-vader, Null Chameleon (Critical)
Grade 1's
2- Barrier Star-vader, Promethium
2- Star-vader, Rejection Dragon
4- Prison Gate Star-vader, Palladium
4- Star-vader, Bolt Line
1- Star-vader, Satellite Mirage (Just tech. Might replace it for something better)
Grade 2's
4- Flash Gun Star-vader, Osmium
4- Star-vader, Astro Reaper
4- Unrivaled Star-vader, Radon
Grade 3's
2- Ionization Star-vader, Hafnium
2- Star-vader, Imaginary Plane Dragon
4- Star-vader, Dark Zodiac
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That a good looking deck :) and Ionization Star-vader, Hafnium is the best one for you and using draw triggers is also a good idea.
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I... really don't see Stands helping you here at all. Not only do they eat up Counterblasts but they're extremely weak 4ks on the board.
I'd drop Satellite Mirage for One Who Opens the Black Door if only because her conditions are insanely easy to make, despite not being a Star-vader.
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I... really don't see Stands helping you here at all. Not only do they eat up Counterblasts but they're extremely weak 4ks on the board.
I'd drop Satellite Mirage for One Who Opens the Black Door if only because her conditions are insanely easy to make, despite not being a Star-vader.
the stands are for relocking, so I can use robin for cb 2 total. and that combo itself makes Hafnium auto +5k to 3 rgs and lets me lock triangle lock with Zodiac for cb 2 as well. Plus it puts more pressure for units like astro reaper, plane's mate, and radon would be 17k stood up. I never had a problem with running outa dmg, etc. Tbh , That deck won me the most cfs but statellite is just for uhh no reason lol. that's being taken out for prob for what you mentioned.
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I like the stand idea especially for when using Osmium. More pressure is guranteed regardless.
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I like the stand idea especially for when using Osmium. More pressure is guranteed regardless.
Ikr , at least someone gets the idea of the deck.
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I understood the Stand trigger idea. But if your aim is more pressure from Astro and Osmium, you're better off playing more Stands instead of Criticals.
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I understood the Stand trigger idea. But if your aim is more pressure from Astro and Osmium, you're better off playing more Stands instead of Criticals.
The stands are there for relocking one, then locking more then turn after
Examples, relock one rg. Next turn ride Hafnium, Legion, use Robin to lock 2 more, Auto 5k to 3 rgs.
Or relock one. Ride Zodiac, Legion, lock 2 more with Zodiac's skill, etc. It has many benefits. It's like saying why would I run Palladium? lol.
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I already responded to its use as Palladium. It weakens your power lanes and eats up counterblasts that can be used for better things.
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I already responded to its use as Palladium. It weakens your power lanes and eats up counterblasts that can be used for better things.
Ugh idk then. I main Link Joker soo I'm just saying if you don't see the purpose of it, Idk what u want me to say. Not like if Astro Reaper hits, I can't just soul blast it back out and send it back when I legion. Most of the time I have palladiums to relock anyway, I run stands cause of pressure when all your rgs are locked and have to use your hand the entire time cause you're g2's are locked on front row
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I already responded to its use as Palladium. It weakens your power lanes and eats up counterblasts that can be used for better things.
Ugh idk then. I main Link Joker soo I'm just saying if you don't see the purpose of it, Idk what u want me to say. Not like if Astro Reaper hits, I can't just soul blast it back out and send it back when I legion. Most of the time I have palladiums to relock anyway, I run stands cause of pressure when all your rgs are locked and have to use your hand the entire time cause you're g2's are locked on front row
And to top it off re standing Osmium causes for concern cause it prevents you from unlocking certain units.
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I'm getting the feeling you're ignoring what I'm saying.
The purpose of Stand Triggers here is for pressure from the on-hit skills and to act as Palladium. I understand that. I am saying once again that it eats up counterblasts that can be used for others, its power is very low, and if pressure from Astro and Osmium is your aim, you can run more Stand Triggers instead of Criticals.
I'm not trying to force you to change your build. I'm just pointing this out and I feel like you think I can't read the cards.
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I'm getting the feeling you're ignoring what I'm saying.
The purpose of Stand Triggers here is for pressure from the on-hit skills and to act as Palladium. I understand that. I am saying once again that it eats up counterblasts that can be used for others, its power is very low, and if pressure from Astro and Osmium is your aim, you can run more Stand Triggers instead of Criticals.
I'm not trying to force you to change your build. I'm just pointing this out and I feel like you think I can't read the cards.
The fact is that you're simply assuming he will be calling it without thinking and just waste up the counterblast. Ren is smarter than you think and the deck rear pressure is the most vital part later game. The other stands means nothing to the deck as it has the side skill that is only optional if needed. If he doesn't need it then he won't use it but can be used to push for late game.
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I'm getting the feeling you're ignoring what I'm saying.
The purpose of Stand Triggers here is for pressure from the on-hit skills and to act as Palladium. I understand that. I am saying once again that it eats up counterblasts that can be used for others, its power is very low, and if pressure from Astro and Osmium is your aim, you can run more Stand Triggers instead of Criticals.
I'm not trying to force you to change your build. I'm just pointing this out and I feel like you think I can't read the cards.
The fact is that you're simply assuming he will be calling it without thinking and just waste up the counterblast. Ren is smarter than you think and the deck rear pressure is the most vital part later game. The other stands means nothing to the deck as it has the side skill that is only optional if needed. If he doesn't need it then he won't use it but can be used to push for late game.
I never said he'd call it without thinking or that he'd waste the counterblast. I never assumed he wasn't smart either. His counterblasts are better spent on Zodiac, Robin, Palladium himself, and the other two Legion bosses. Also, if the vital part comes late game, then that's all the more reason to play additional Stands to force more guard or Omega Lock more or even end the game. Otherwise, he can play more Criticals to force end game faster while using the pressure from the rearguards whenever they get to hit.
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You do know how to play link joker right?
Plus the counterblast usage is very very cheap compared to how you think it is. Omega lock is guranteed 2 turn lock at 1 counterblast. You hardly have to worry about the counterblast usages at all....
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At least someone gets it lol
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You do know how to play link joker right?
Plus the counterblast usage is very very cheap compared to how you think it is. Omega lock is guranteed 2 turn lock at 1 counterblast. You hardly have to worry about the counterblast usages at all....
Yes I know how to play Link Joker.
I wouldn't call it cheap when your only way of unflipping is by healing.
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You do know how to play link joker right?
Plus the counterblast usage is very very cheap compared to how you think it is. Omega lock is guranteed 2 turn lock at 1 counterblast. You hardly have to worry about the counterblast usages at all....
Yes I know how to play Link Joker.
I wouldn't call it cheap when your only way of unflipping is by healing.
You forgot that you can use units from other clans to unflip :P
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Should we suggest playing Lemonade clones then?
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Should we suggest playing Lemonade clones then?
It could replace Satellite Mirage lol