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Title: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: colonel830303 on September 14, 2014, 11:28:56 PM
G0(17):

1x Judgebau Revenger (FV)
4x Grim Revenger (C)
4x Revenger, Air Raid Dragon (C)
4x Freezing Revenger (D)
4x Healing Revenger (H)

G1(14):

4x Revenger of Darkness, Mac Lir (PG)
1x Black-winged Swordbreaker
2x Eloquent Revenger Gron
4x Morale Revenger, Dorin
3x Transient Revenger, Masqurade

G2 (11):

4x Blaster Dark Revenger
3x Blaster Dark Revenger "Abyss"
2x Crisis Revenger, Mana
2x Revenger of Nullity, Masqurade

G3 ( 8 ):

4x Revenger, Phantom Blaster "Abyss" (PBA)
2x Illusion Revenger, Mordred Phantom
2x Revenger, Dragruler Phantom

Strategies/Tips:

1) Use Judgebau to call out Swordbreaker/Dorin(to the side) and Gron (behind VG).

2) Judgebau's skill (on-hit) has higher priority than PBA's skill (at the end of battle). You have to use Judgebau's skill first if you want to activate both of their skills. (Saw some people did it in the reversed order before, which is wrong)

3) Call out Blaster Dark Abyss asap. He is your best friend to pop your opponent's starter.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 14, 2014, 11:56:30 PM
Hmm. Deck looks good. Random 1 Swordbreaker but besides that it looks good.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Cherry on September 15, 2014, 12:02:23 AM
Why Eloquent Revenger over Shadow Lancer who can search Mordred? Why not a couple more Manas too? Dragruler does like all of those he can get.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: colonel830303 on September 15, 2014, 12:05:44 AM
Hmm. Deck looks good. Random 1 Swordbreaker but besides that it looks good.

I know most people run at least 2 S.Breakers but for me I think 1 is enough just so I can do the L or J shape retiring consistently
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on September 15, 2014, 12:08:53 AM
Hmm. Deck looks good. Random 1 Swordbreaker but besides that it looks good.

I know most people run at least 2 S.Breakers but for me I think 1 is enough just so I can do the L or J shape retiring consistently

Still good to have a backup if it goes to damage or something like that.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: colonel830303 on September 15, 2014, 12:22:22 AM
Why Eloquent Revenger over Shadow Lancer to search Mordred? Why not a couple more Manas too? Dragruler does like all of those he can get.

I only use Mordred as my backup if i cant get to PBA on my first G3 ride. 3 Manas I would say is overkill since Mana's power is kinda low even if with a 7k booster behind her. Plus 90% of the time I dont have trouble running out of rear guards for me to sac(2 twin drives on the legion turn is enough to make up the cost imo).
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 15, 2014, 12:23:25 AM
Hmm. Deck looks good. Random 1 Swordbreaker but besides that it looks good.

I know most people run at least 2 S.Breakers but for me I think 1 is enough just so I can do the L or J shape retiring consistently

Still good to have a backup if it goes to damage or something like that.

Exactly^

Plus I end up drawing Abyss, etc with it half teh time lol. Instead of having it dmged -_-
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: colonel830303 on September 15, 2014, 12:31:54 AM
Hmm. Deck looks good. Random 1 Swordbreaker but besides that it looks good.

I know most people run at least 2 S.Breakers but for me I think 1 is enough just so I can do the L or J shape retiring consistently

Still good to have a backup if it goes to damage or something like that.

Exactly^

Plus I end up drawing Abyss, etc with it half teh time lol. Instead of having it dmged -_-

In that case I will just call out dorin for later cb recovering
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 15, 2014, 01:19:07 AM
Hm yeah that'd work.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Cherry on September 15, 2014, 01:29:32 AM
Why Eloquent Revenger over Shadow Lancer to search Mordred? Why not a couple more Manas too? Dragruler does like all of those he can get.

I only use Mordred as my backup if i cant get to PBA on my first G3 ride. 3 Manas I would say is overkill since Mana's power is kinda low even if with a 7k booster behind her. Plus 90% of the time I dont have trouble running out of rear guards for me to sac(2 twin drives on the legion turn is enough to make up the cost imo).

That's definitely fair enough. Dragruler and Abyss are both early-mid game bosses compared to Mordred's late game resources. I think even if Revengers got their enabler, it wouldn't help or be necessary. Mana's power is low but I'm too focused on Dragruler's necessity with her. Though, I would actually recommend playing at least a single Mackart just to have for a free backup with Abyss. I played him in Abyss-Mordred myself. He isn't necessary but he's nice to have.

Thoooough, I still have a personal irk with Gron. Other Grade 1 Revengers do nothing for you here though, so I can't suggest anything else. It does filter out soul, which is something Revengers would love to have beyond Swordbreaker. Wouldn't kill to have a Silver Fang Witch clone for Shadow Paladins though.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 15, 2014, 01:45:00 AM

Thoooough, I still have a personal irk with Gron. Other Grade 1 Revengers do nothing for you here though, so I can't suggest anything else. It does filter out soul, which is something Revengers would love to have beyond Swordbreaker. Wouldn't kill to have a Silver Fang Witch clone for Shadow Paladins though.
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That and a Susanna clone lol.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: [SE] Tidus on September 15, 2014, 08:39:20 AM

Thoooough, I still have a personal irk with Gron. Other Grade 1 Revengers do nothing for you here though, so I can't suggest anything else. It does filter out soul, which is something Revengers would love to have beyond Swordbreaker. Wouldn't kill to have a Silver Fang Witch clone for Shadow Paladins though.

That and a Susanna clone lol.
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Still waiting for that very day SP gets a Lemonade clone~
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 15, 2014, 03:24:34 PM

Thoooough, I still have a personal irk with Gron. Other Grade 1 Revengers do nothing for you here though, so I can't suggest anything else. It does filter out soul, which is something Revengers would love to have beyond Swordbreaker. Wouldn't kill to have a Silver Fang Witch clone for Shadow Paladins though.

That and a Susanna clone lol.



Still waiting for that very day SP gets a Lemonade clone~
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I know right, and an LB enabler grade 1.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Cherry on September 15, 2014, 03:40:42 PM
A Shadow Paladin enabler would let Peredur and Raging Form give Abyss a run for his money. ... You know, if they were Phantom units to abuse Judgebau. The absurdity of turbo mode Judgebau makes for Revengers practically carries Phantom Abyss.
Title: Re: [Shadow Paladin]Abyss Ruler
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 15, 2014, 03:45:04 PM
A Shadow Paladin enabler would let Peredur and Raging Form give Abyss a run for his money. ... You know, if they were Phantom units to abuse Judgebau. The absurdity of turbo mode Judgebau makes for Revengers practically carries Phantom Abyss.

That and you can abuse Dragruler and consistently deal dmg to opponent entire cf(provided they have less than 5 dmg) and you can abuse Shadow Blaze as well. Since it's LB isn't half bad. (Despite it not being a Revenger)