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Title: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on September 28, 2014, 10:32:27 PM
I don't think anyone has asked this before so I'm going to.
Why is there no LR art for Liberator of Oath, Aglovale? You know, the one that matches with Prominence Core. Since Photon and BBSK got their arts it's more than fair that Aglovale gets the same treatment, no?

Thanks for the attention.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on September 28, 2014, 10:36:46 PM
I agree with you.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Ren «Я» on September 28, 2014, 11:08:49 PM
I don't think anyone has asked this before so I'm going to.
Why is there no LR art for Liberator of Oath, Aglovale? You know, the one that matches with Prominence Core. Since Photon and BBSK got their arts it's more than fair that Aglovale gets the same treatment, no?

Thanks for the attention.

They better add that Algovale lol (jk) But I'd appreciate if they did tho
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Cherry on September 29, 2014, 04:06:06 AM
I'm rather curious about why it hasn't been added but all of Blaster Blade Seeker's alternate arts get to be added. This goes back to the "add alt arts?" suggestion with Duos and the like. It's doable after seeing Blaster Blade and Photon get their alt arts, why not the rest?
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Lucius on September 29, 2014, 07:39:27 AM
maybe because they don't want People to use 8 Ioris while saying they only use 4 lol and since Aglovale is pretty much the most useful Liberator G2 maybe admins don't want him to be used more than 4 times in deck
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Cherry on September 29, 2014, 07:45:49 AM
Photon may be glitched, but you can't pick more than 4 Blaster Blade Seekers from all of the arts. Why wouldn't this be the same?
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Lucius on September 29, 2014, 07:54:59 AM
Photon may be glitched, but you can't pick more than 4 Blaster Blade Seekers from all of the arts. Why wouldn't this be the same?
maybe they have yet to add that function or just forgot it when update came XP
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Dullahan on October 02, 2014, 11:20:14 PM
well alt art or not, the general rule is you can only have up to 4 cards with the same name in the deck, regardless of art.  And the system should have that function anyways. 

If people would read the rules more, the admins wouldn't worry about some noob using 8 Iori.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Jai Hearts on October 03, 2014, 06:11:16 AM
well for bbs we can only choose 4, really i tried it once its max at 4.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Lucius on October 04, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
you can add 8 BBS if you use the XIV mate artwork with another one
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Doctor Who on October 07, 2014, 07:32:04 AM
Some people are so ignorant. You can change the art by yourself. With some resizing you can have it all.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Ren «Я» on October 07, 2014, 07:47:10 AM
Some people are so ignorant. You can change the art by yourself. With some resizing you can have it all.

Ikr^ customizing sleeves are so easy.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on October 07, 2014, 07:49:11 PM
Some people are so ignorant. You can change the art by yourself. With some resizing you can have it all.

Except that you wouldn't be able to have both arts at the same time. So if you played both legions one of them would have the wrong art.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Doctor Who on October 08, 2014, 03:52:53 PM
Some people are so ignorant. You can change the art by yourself. With some resizing you can have it all.

Except that you wouldn't be able to have both arts at the same time. So if you played both legions one of them would have the wrong art.
Yeah, that is small downside. But if you want the alternate art, it means you are not satisfied with the current one.
PS: I use this to change my sleeves as well.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Cherry on October 08, 2014, 05:05:30 PM
Some people are so ignorant. You can change the art by yourself. With some resizing you can have it all.

Rude.

Yes you can change the art but it still isn't 100% pretty and matching because other people won't be able to see it. Same with sleeves. It's sort of asinine but they already went ahead and did it for Blaster Blade Seeker, so...
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Doctor Who on October 10, 2014, 04:11:17 AM


Rude.

Yes you can change the art but it still isn't 100% pretty and matching because other people won't be able to see it. Same with sleeves. It's sort of asinine but they already went ahead and did it for Blaster Blade Seeker, so...
The best art for Mates is the golden one (if they have it). It makes them more easy to search. And what is important if your opponent can see it or not?. I always change the art of my sleeves. This way I figure out which I have.   
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on October 11, 2014, 06:29:35 PM


Rude.

Yes you can change the art but it still isn't 100% pretty and matching because other people won't be able to see it. Same with sleeves. It's sort of asinine but they already went ahead and did it for Blaster Blade Seeker, so...
The best art for Mates is the golden one (if they have it). It makes them more easy to search. And what is important if your opponent can see it or not?. I always change the art of my sleeves. This way I figure out which I have.

I think you missed the point. All we're saying is that if Photon and BBSK can have alt arts, Aglovale should have them too
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: [T-SP] Access on October 11, 2014, 07:31:48 PM
Agreed. I want my Core Mate Arc thx. Ik I can pre-set it in my sprites section but it be better and less biased with all the other Mates getting them Alt Arts Officially. (I personally use Percival with Core ;))
Hopefully this doesn come as a Rage. Im really just stating the Facts :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

As for the being able to play more than 4 of the Art of each mate.... Really guys are we like going over sth that isnt going to happen unless ppl are gonna troll its basic common sense 4 cards per Card besides I dun see players playing 8 Dragonic Overlord, 8 Photon(Although that be really OP) or Stacking them 4 BBS(Alfred Mate art) with the other 4 SSSD/Wingal.

Finally... if they did the nerving for SSSD BBS and Wingal BBS why dun they nerve all (If its too hard to Code/Do at least provide the Art like you have alr done for the others i dun think thats too hard to pull of i mean they alr did soo many other Alt Arts and its not like they dun add new cards into the system per Update.) Beside Im not requesting a Full EB reprint of BMT White & Black ver. its something Basic.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Magus TSS on November 09, 2014, 11:35:45 AM
Photon may be glitched, but you can't pick more than 4 Blaster Blade Seekers from all of the arts. Why wouldn't this be the same?

That is actually half right. You cannot pick more then 4 Blaster Blade Seekers from the trial art and the Set 16 art however your still able to add a additional 4 arts from the Mega Booster art.

Also I can't wait for the day bermuda get all their alternate art works added in. It would be really nice. :( even though I already have the arts I want for them in there.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Rank Up on November 10, 2014, 01:58:48 AM
too many efforts for this alternative art is needed. And the Arts themselfs will not make the difference in the client - it will just become bigger. It's just a waste of time, folks.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on November 10, 2014, 10:53:36 AM
The same could be said about both Blaster Blade alt arts and Photon alt art and yet there they are.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Meruem on November 10, 2014, 02:01:25 PM
actually, the server has both arts for aglovale, you just need to go into the fodders and change the names of the arts so u can use whichone u like
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on November 10, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
Yes, but that doesn't solve the main issue. And:

1- Even if you change the names, your opp won't see the matching art unless he also changed it.
2- What if you want to use both arts in one deck?
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Ren «Я» on November 10, 2014, 04:45:53 PM
The same could be said about both Blaster Blade alt arts and Photon alt art and yet there they are.


You are aware, you can just edit the sprite, etc so that it'll look like how you want it to look. Even though you can only see the changes made at least you can customize stuff yourself if u want different art.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Meruem on November 10, 2014, 05:55:14 PM
Yes, but that doesn't solve the main issue. And:

1- Even if you change the names, your opp won't see the matching art unless he also changed it.
2- What if you want to use both arts in one deck?

First World problems lol all i just want is the next update xD you seriously need an alt art to play a deck? xD sorry if i'm being too rude but you sound like an spoiled kid with all this "but the other kid has it and i don't" thing with blaster blade seeker alt arts <.<
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on November 11, 2014, 01:19:09 PM
I don't even play GP so no, I'm not a spoiled kid. >_>

What I want is equality, if Photon can get his alt art and BBSK can get TWO alt arts, why can't Aglovale? This question has been the main point of this thread since the start and all I get for an answer is "You can change the art". I mean, seriously...
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Jai Hearts on November 11, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
I don't even play GP so no, I'm not a spoiled kid. >_>

What I want is equality, if Photon can get his alt art and BBSK can get TWO alt arts, why can't Aglovale? This question has been the main point of this thread since the start and all I get for an answer is "You can change the art". I mean, seriously...

hes right do, why do they get the alit and not aglo ?
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Ren «Я» on November 11, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
I don't even play GP so no, I'm not a spoiled kid. >_>

What I want is equality, if Photon can get his alt art and BBSK can get TWO alt arts, why can't Aglovale? This question has been the main point of this thread since the start and all I get for an answer is "You can change the art". I mean, seriously...

Is it seriously that big of an issue? O.o
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on November 11, 2014, 07:20:13 PM
I wouldn't say it's a big but yes, it's an issue. Because the "It's too much work" and "You can edit the sprites folder" arguments are invalid because of Photon and BBSK. We won't be satisfied until someone comes up with an acceptable excuse or the alt art is added (heck, the programmers might've had plans of adding the alt art but forgot about it later).
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Meruem on November 11, 2014, 09:35:54 PM
I wouldn't say it's a big but yes, it's an issue. Because the "It's too much work" and "You can edit the sprites folder" arguments are invalid because of Photon and BBSK. We won't be satisfied until someone comes up with an acceptable excuse or the alt art is added (heck, the programmers might've had plans of adding the alt art but forgot about it later).

sorry, but i still see it as an spoiled kid crying over spilled milk lol the game needs a lot of more useful things than aglovale alt art, seriously lol using unmatching arts won't make the deck unplayable, so don't see why they can't use it like that and be happy (?)

it is like the game itself, i'm pissed at bushiroad for giving Kagero support in three consecutive sets and Dark Irregulars (one of my favorite clans) didn't even got support last season x.x and i'm not complaining about it, life sometimes is unfair, just live with it xD
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Cherry on November 11, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
He has every right to complain about it.

Alternative arts make the file sizer bigger, so why were some added anyway? Is it really an enormous hassle to just add Aglovale's second art? Duo is another story since every one of their units have alternative arts. It's sort of a similar situation with new vanilla trigger sets when a clan will already have enough to make 8-12 Critical lineups. The CEO said it's interesting to see what kind of person the fighter is judging from their triggers they use. But when you think about it, it's sort of generally unnecessary to add to CFA. If a clan has 3-4 different vanilla Stand Triggers, it won't make a difference to add the other vanillas.

It's sort of different since the triggers go toward having the complete card list in the game, but the reasons why they exist in the first place are about the same. Same with the Duo arts everyone wants.

There's more important things to be added, but surely this could be made to be a side project? I don't think it hurts anybody, but it can pleasantly surprise a good chunk of the playerbase if it does happen. 
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Rank Up on November 12, 2014, 04:30:10 AM
Now I'll answer your complaints. BBS and Photon have both artworks just because Nyash like Blaster Blade and his mate :P Though in the begginin it was only BBS who had two different legion partners. Photon was, if I'm not mistakin the second one announced, not showed. It dint make difference. With Aglovale appearens, it became obvious, that there will be much more legions with a pain like this. So in the future it has the potential to take the same efforts and file size, as Duo is needed for ther arts.
I think as client creator Nyash can decide which arts he wanna add, simply cause they are cool, and which arts he dont wanna add. If you have any problems with it - you're free to buy real cards or, maybe, create your own client with something like 2k+ cards, and add there all the different arts, that are existing)
If I'm not mistaking origina Blaster blade has like 5-7 different arts - but noone complaining about him)
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on November 12, 2014, 10:31:30 AM
No one complains about blaster blade because:

-He has a thousand different arts
-If you were to add his arts, it would be unfair to not add every single other alt art for every single pre-season 4 units.

And I find it hard to believe that there will be more mates with multiple legions, since while Legion is still around, the main focus now is Stride.

And like Cherry said, it's just one card. Is it that hard to add the alt art for the sake of fairness?
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Rank Up on November 12, 2014, 11:17:22 AM
Demjugz, there were already a legion announced (cant remember if it was booster set or promo cards, but whatever). And for the sake of fairness Nyash will be forced to add many useless thing into the client. So, no.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Demjugz on November 12, 2014, 11:29:25 AM
...I think you misread my reply or something.

As I said, Legion will still be sticking around but the main focus now is Stride. Since there will be less Legions, the chance for a repeated mate (like BBSK, Photon and Aglovale) is greatly reduced.

Also, it's not useless, a lot of people(myself included) dislike legion unmatching arts.

I'm only talking about adding the alt art for mates because adding all of the other ones would be too much. Since you started adding the alt arts for mates, might as well finish it.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Rank Up on November 12, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
and I dislike the Kagero clan. So? Nyash should delete it from Area?)
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Jai Hearts on November 12, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
and I dislike the Kagero clan. So? Nyash should delete it from Area?)

ok this is getting a little out of hand. remember guys this is just a request.

expy while you believe the alt art is unneeded others would like the option like with photon and bbs. its a matter of appearance and not of necesity. it isnt like we're asking to change much just add the aglove art. 

is it that big a problem that one more card with an alt art cant be edit ? if so then fine by me i can still use the current art, but remember there are people out there that dont know how to edit that art thing (myself included) so is it really unneeded if so many want it ?
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Ren «Я» on November 12, 2014, 05:12:26 PM
and I dislike the Kagero clan. So? Nyash should delete it from Area?)

ok this is getting a little out of hand. remember guys this is just a request.

expy while you believe the alt art is unneeded others would like the option like with photon and bbs. its a matter of appearance and not of necesity. it isnt like we're asking to change much just add the aglove art. 

is it that big a problem that one more card with an alt art cant be edit ? if so then fine by me i can still use the current art, but remember there are people out there that dont know how to edit that art thing (myself included) so is it really unneeded if so many want it ?

Jai I don't think you're getting it. If they did that for every unit that has other art the file itself of cfa would just get bigger and it's not necessary. And Exper isn't the one whose in charge of what gets added in terms of art. he already said Nyash.

Inb4 people start complaining about all the BT all over again. xD

I mean u can just edit the card sprites yourself which is pretty simple. And anyone who doesn't know how I'd gladly tell them what to do but I find this whole argument kinda rediculous over the art of Algovale lolz
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Jai Hearts on November 12, 2014, 05:27:21 PM
i dont think you get it ren, i didnt say expy has to edit since i know he cant. if the file was such a big problem then why add the alt for bbs and photon? we already got core why not gave him in full with his proper mate's art ?
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Cherry on November 12, 2014, 05:37:05 PM
I think my point was misunderstood.

If Nyash liked Blaster Blade Seeker and his mates, that's great. That shows what the CEO was talking about. It's interesting to see the different arts and triggers fighters would use. Other people like stuff too though. He definitely has the privilege of adding whatever he wants because it's his client. But this is just a request, even with some complaints. It might be my lack of coding/scripting knowledge but isn't the file size just going to get bigger anyway? Strides are coming along and Vanguard's going to continuously expand regardless, so is it that big of a deal to do what's going to gradually be done anyway?

I wouldn't mind a side project for every alternative art for the sake of just having everything. But nothing more than a side project.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Ren «Я» on November 12, 2014, 05:52:04 PM
i dont think you get it ren, i didnt say expy has to edit since i know he cant. if the file was such a big problem then why add the alt for bbs and photon? we already got core why not gave him in full with his proper mate's art ?

Uh if u read what Expy said :
I think as client creator Nyash can decide which arts he wanna add, simply cause they are cool, and which arts he dont wanna add. If you have any problems with it - you're free to buy real cards or, maybe, create your own client with something like 2k+ cards, and add there all the different arts, that are existing)
If I'm not mistaking origina Blaster blade has like 5-7 different arts - but noone complaining about him)


should prove my point but I'm not trying to argue I'm trying to stop it.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Jai Hearts on November 12, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
same here not trying to argue and like cherry says its nyash's game he can add or not add what he wants.

but unlike those art this one does has a reason to be added since it matches core's art completing it. it might not be that big a difference from the original art but we would still like the option.

same as what you said can go for sleeves.
they dont really add to the game just something visual that i believe is trully uneeded, but allot of people are glad they are here and want to collect them all.

well all in all not like it will change the game allot but i see the point on why it would be nice if its there are a core player and gp mainer myself.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: [T-SP] Access on November 13, 2014, 07:37:04 AM
LOLS guys if its like that then just END the request here man. They arent gonna do every since "ITS THEIR GAME".

So whatever that is said/justified by players now dun matter haiz what a disappointment was hoping this could even things out.
and please if your gonna say Alt art takes up more space why not take the ones that are already there away since they are taking up space and making CFA more hard to download.

This really isnt about the fact that we need the matching Art its more about why there are those with the art and why there are those without them.
(Although that was clearly answered that because after BBS and Photon, creators realised that mates are gonna be for more that one Legion unit therefore will not imply extras. <but still why photon and not algovale since they were both in the same box(oso kinda alr answered the creators thinks Photon more swag likes photon more than algovale)>)

so i guess we should all just stop since they aren't gonna imply it cos once again "its their game"
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Rank Up on November 13, 2014, 08:30:49 AM
Requests are here, so people can share their ideas and opinions with administration. If you expect every your idea will be gladly accepted, I must disappoint you. We glad, that you have something to say, but lets not be angry with each other just cause your request has not interested admins.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Doctor Who on November 17, 2014, 06:53:06 AM
Requests are here, so people can share their ideas and opinions with administration. If you expect every your idea will be gladly accepted, I must disappoint you. We glad, that you have something to say, but lets not be angry with each other just cause your request has not interested admins.
well, Expy, a point has been prooven. Why some units get alternate art and others don't?. I would really love this (http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130909231449/cardfight/images/2/2c/EB05-S01EN-SP.jpg) alt art of Amaterasu incorporated in Area.
I would gladly do the resizing of all alt art that there is, if you are ready to implement it.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Rank Up on November 17, 2014, 12:31:57 PM
Doctor Who, he is the same case as for Aglovale) Though he has more reasons to be added, then Amaterasu)
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: AloisTrancy on November 17, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
The only input on this I'm going to give is that, even if it seems unfair to give obvious favoritism to some cards and not others, there's not really much of a point in complaining about it.
This thread is excessively long for just a simple art request and honestly I feel like it's beyond monotonous at this point.
The request is to add Algovale's missing Alt Art. If what Expy is saying is to be taken as the response to that request, then that means the request has been denied. At this point there is nothing more that needs to be said.
Arguing with one of the mods isn't going to make the creator change his mind, so it's better to just let this go.
Title: Re: No love for Aglovale?
Post by: Rank Up on November 19, 2014, 10:20:53 AM
well, then I'll lock this thread :P