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Cardfight!! Vanguard => Request => Topic started by: Kuro vi Lolitannia on March 05, 2014, 06:09:00 AM

Title: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Kuro vi Lolitannia on March 05, 2014, 06:09:00 AM
Can you give some mechanism that allows us to shuffle the cards in hand?

It's very useful against clan like Nubatama.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Orenji_Reiji on March 05, 2014, 07:01:46 AM
We will think about it.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: M4tt on May 03, 2014, 12:54:31 AM
It's very useful against clan like Nubatama.

Not only that, but just in general. Every time you drive check a card or put a card from the field/deck to your hand, it's revealed (like its supposed to be lol) and because of that, it's easy to gauge where certain cards are in your hand (and shield values too).
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Incursio on May 04, 2014, 10:32:40 PM
This really is necessary, you are allowed to shuffle your hand during a game and it can change results dramatically - most visibly against Nuba.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Pullzzz on May 04, 2014, 10:38:14 PM
 But the cards are binded face down if the cards come from the hand, and if they're bound from the field Kuroko will get rid of them, or most likely be played back down, not saying this shouldn't be implemented I just don't see a point in the case of Nubas
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Incursio on May 04, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
But the cards are binded face down if the cards come from the hand, and if they're bound from the field Kuroko will get rid of them, or most likely be played back down, not saying this shouldn't be implemented I just don't see a point in the case of Nubas

It's just that there are other uses too for the feature, my bad if it doesn't do much against Nubas though.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Incursio on May 05, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
No hand shuffling! It's annoying!! PLEASE!!

I don't see how it would be annoying at all. I assume you're thinking of Dueling Network where the hand shuffle stops the game to show the hand shuffle animation, but on CFA actions don't work like that.
If there were a hand shuffling system, it would just be like shuffling your deck where it doesn't interrupt play but shows with a red light whenever you're shuffling.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: FTLol on May 05, 2014, 06:20:35 PM
But the cards are binded face down if the cards come from the hand, and if they're bound from the field Kuroko will get rid of them, or most likely be played back down, not saying this shouldn't be implemented I just don't see a point in the case of Nubas

It's just that there are other uses too for the feature, my bad if it doesn't do much against Nubas though.

Actually, it does do much against Nubas. Because right now when you drive check a say, PG, the placement of the card will not change, thus your opponent can just choose that card and bind it.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: crossflames on May 06, 2014, 04:19:13 PM
True, players are able to hand-shuffle in real life thus, Nubatama doesn't pose much of a threat afterwards against powerhouses. I realize there would be a slight flaw. A player would abuse the hand-shuffle so that when the opponent selects a card in their hand the other player might hand-shuffle it. If they decide to add in a hand-shuffle button it should light up when the hand is shuffled, such as the deck lighting up green when it is being viewed.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Magus TSS on May 07, 2014, 03:22:43 PM
Evil-Eye Princess Euryale would also like this feature. Since she also chooses a card at random and binds it.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Sandy on May 07, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Upon hearing about how useful this would be, I too would have to agree with this.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Kaze Natsume on May 07, 2014, 07:57:35 PM
A shuffle hand would be good aslong as you can move while your opponent can still place cards or only allow the hand shuffle on your own turn
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 11, 2014, 01:02:03 PM
Well hand shuffler I believe is a need for this game. Also I would like the Normal Shuffling system to become a little better. I have noticed that same grade cards are almost stacked in either bottom or top deck.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Ninja Master Z on May 11, 2014, 07:52:51 PM
I would also like to agree that we need a hand shuffler, and also Hunter E.T.'s statement about the lackluster shuffler
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Raien D. End on May 15, 2014, 12:28:04 PM
NO!!this  way my psyqualia wont work...
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Magus TSS on October 10, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
With the new mechanic of G-Assist I really think this should be implemented now since you have to show your opponent your entire hand if you wish to use G-assist. The Hand shuffle will prevent decks that use random discard from targeting known cards in the hand if they are not shuffle afterwards.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: [SE] Tidus on October 10, 2014, 11:44:21 AM
Only one automatic hand shuffle will be fine. Otherwise it could be overused by idiots who shuffle their hand repeatedly.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Magus TSS on October 10, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
Only one automatic hand shuffle will be fine. Otherwise it could be overused by idiots who shuffle their hand repeatedly.
Still think it be a issue if we can't shuffle are hand before they are able to select for a "random" discard or bind. But that could be a problem. How about limit it to a certain number of shuffles a turn. I'm say 3-5 shuffles a turn and allow us to select cards in our opponent's hand if they do shuffle it after selecting it trying to cheat it follows the card so they can't cheat. But please let them shuffle once before you act the effect of the card so it's fair.

Ether that or make it some kind of a random selector for your own hand option that both players see so that players can't cheat for those binds/discards. CFC had random binds from hand as a example so it worked so it be better if we could have a way to randomly select a card from our hand and send it to bind.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Meruem on October 10, 2014, 12:51:16 PM
i think it's a great idea but before it is implemented i think they sould add first an option for clicking cards in opponent's hand, is a pain in the ass to play Nubatama and needing to say "discard x card from left to right" and can also lead to confusion, would be better if we could click the cards in our opponent hand and they flash in red pretty much how you can light your opp vanguard and rears when u're targetting them
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Lucius on October 10, 2014, 03:37:04 PM
i think it's a great idea but before it is implemented i think they sould add first an option for clicking cards in opponent's hand, is a pain in the ass to play Nubatama and needing to say "discard x card from left to right" and can also lead to confusion, would be better if we could click the cards in our opponent hand and they flash in red pretty much how you can light your opp vanguard and rears when u're targetting them
that might be true but some opponents might use that to note where the Card you drive checked was which is annoying or they just spam it like hell :v. i am already getting annoyed by opponents clicking my rg or vg like an idiot
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Meruem on October 10, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
i think it's a great idea but before it is implemented i think they sould add first an option for clicking cards in opponent's hand, is a pain in the ass to play Nubatama and needing to say "discard x card from left to right" and can also lead to confusion, would be better if we could click the cards in our opponent hand and they flash in red pretty much how you can light your opp vanguard and rears when u're targetting them
that might be true but some opponents might use that to note where the Card you drive checked was which is annoying or they just spam it like hell :v. i am already getting annoyed by opponents clicking my rg or vg like an idiot

by implementing a hand shuffler they can make the marking dissapear and so doesn't matter which card he ckicks is not going to be the one from before
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Doctor Who on October 11, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Idiots or not, hand shuffler is imperative. I win a lot of fights by simple paying attention to which cards are played and which are left. But if you have just two cards that you drive checked and shuffle your hand... you clearly show signs of idiotism.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Rank Up on October 12, 2014, 02:43:45 AM
we have imbalanced kageros, paladins and links? Better nerf Nubatama C:
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Doctor Who on October 19, 2014, 02:40:37 AM
we have imbalanced kageros, paladins and links? Better nerf Nubatama C:
You clearly do not realize the full power of Binding no Jutsu and Force Discarding no Jutsu.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Rank Up on October 19, 2014, 07:38:19 AM
Doctor Who, I clearly realize it. And it is not imbalanced. They have no restanding vgs or something, and their skills ar not cheaper, then they should be. Also simple card advantage generation is countering them as they cant do explode turns consistently ( even Kabukikongou is no consistent, and have it's own counterplay ). So I dont see a point in your post, if it was serious at all :P
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: UnknownKIRA on April 07, 2015, 12:23:53 PM
I think its about time to actually implement this? Seriously without this ability, on break ride Nubatama players can easily get rid of perfect guards and 10k shields.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Fei Yen on April 07, 2015, 12:38:22 PM
Yes we really do hand shuffler, because nubatama players really abuse this
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Rank Up on April 08, 2015, 02:56:41 AM
I believe Shocky now tries to convince Nyash to implement it. Though it's for sure wont be implemented before next update.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Rank Up on April 09, 2015, 03:31:24 AM
got a word from Nyash, that it will be implemented. Just w8 for update.
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: Ibuki Kouji on April 09, 2015, 03:43:48 AM
got a word from Nyash, that it will be implemented. Just w8 for update.
Finally, my dreams of hand shuffling ^,^ nubatama users here we comes!!
Title: Re: Hand Shuffler
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on April 09, 2015, 10:25:25 AM
Alright thanks. And if you can please ask him to make an hand select option as suggested on the other topic too. Like clicking a card on your opponents hand and it turns red.