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Title: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Kaze Natsume on May 07, 2014, 08:06:30 PM
I honestly think it would
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Sandy on May 07, 2014, 08:12:18 PM
Stuck with their clans? What are you talking about? Like if you choose a clan... you're not allowed to choose anything else? That's kinda, no offense, dumb not to mention restrictive.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Kaze Natsume on May 07, 2014, 08:13:45 PM
Nono like i mean clans like everyone can have like 5 clans but i mean everytime something new comes out the banwagon starts up again
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Sandy on May 07, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
Nono like i mean clans like everyone can have like 5 clans but i mean everytime something new comes out the banwagon starts up again
I'll agree in the sense that I hate having to wait a week or so until the 'omgerd it's something new! Play it into the ground!' wave dies down, but that being said, it's something new, when players can go weeks without anything new, they CRAVE or hunger for something new and when it appears, especially if it's for say, a popular clan (paladins or dragons) then people will storm it and want to take advantage of it. Some people do this out of just loving that clan, others do it out of boredom and some others do it out of the fact that no one will have a firm grasp just yet on how to counter the new stuff.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: HunterSerge on May 07, 2014, 08:19:56 PM
People play the clans and decks for various reasons, and no one should really be judging people on that. Besides, I fail to see how it would make it anymore "fun". It wouldn't suddenly make popular clans disappear. Keep in mind that all of these clans that get high representation in tournaments also have a lot of aesthetic and mechanic appeal, and would be widely played even if they weren't good. BT04 Shadow Paladin is a prime example of that.

Its also important to keep in mind, that when specifically talked about CFA, is that this program is a testing ground for many people, so there will always be a lot of people testing out whatever is brand new, because that's their main purpose for playing on CFA.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Kaze Natsume on May 07, 2014, 08:24:13 PM
People play the clans and decks for various reasons, and no one should really be judging people on that. Besides, I fail to see how it would make it anymore "fun". It wouldn't suddenly make popular clans disappear. Keep in mind that all of these clans that get high representation in tournaments also have a lot of aesthetic and mechanic appeal, and would be widely played even if they weren't good. BT04 Shadow Paladin is a prime example of that.

Its also important to keep in mind, that when specifically talked about CFA, is that this program is a testing ground for many people, so there will always be a lot of people testing out whatever is brand new, because that's their main purpose for playing on CFA.
Yea i see what your saying and all but I literally know people who have an "Avatar" for EVERY SINGLE clan now the witches hit BAM they playing them Neos hit BAM im a neo player now like really are u kidding me e.e
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Sandy on May 07, 2014, 08:27:34 PM
People play the clans and decks for various reasons, and no one should really be judging people on that. Besides, I fail to see how it would make it anymore "fun". It wouldn't suddenly make popular clans disappear. Keep in mind that all of these clans that get high representation in tournaments also have a lot of aesthetic and mechanic appeal, and would be widely played even if they weren't good. BT04 Shadow Paladin is a prime example of that.

Its also important to keep in mind, that when specifically talked about CFA, is that this program is a testing ground for many people, so there will always be a lot of people testing out whatever is brand new, because that's their main purpose for playing on CFA.
Yea i see what your saying and all but I literally know people who have an "Avatar" for EVERY SINGLE clan now the witches hit BAM they playing them Neos hit BAM im a neo player now like really are u kidding me e.e
I will agree, in a sense, that say if I was a person who played and loved a certain clan for the longest time while say several other people I know just put them down or ignored them but suddenly the clan I love gets support and then 'those' guys suddenly all try it and say that 'this is my clan!', while I hold there, with my hipster glasses and say 'I loved them before they were cool' lol. It's a little weird but I do feel a sense of, I dunno I guess annoyance that they suddenly declare the clan I've liked all along as 'their clan' just because some support came out.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: M4tt on May 07, 2014, 08:30:15 PM
In life, when it comes to any choice, there will always be meta sheep who flock to things just because they're new and "cool". Prime example: the iPhone.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Kaze Natsume on May 07, 2014, 08:40:01 PM
In life, when it comes to any choice, there will always be meta sheep who flock to things just because they're new and "cool". Prime example: the iPhone.
Yea but can you really use and IPhone as an example xD
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: M4tt on May 07, 2014, 08:46:12 PM
Considering the stigma that exists for them, I believe it's a fitting example.

All and all, I don't mind it when people switch to new clans for whatever new support comes out, I don't even mind it when they say its "their" clan (because it very well may be). I however would like to enjoy a match that isn't against the same cards over and over again.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Sandy on May 07, 2014, 08:48:44 PM
In life, when it comes to any choice, there will always be meta sheep who flock to things just because they're new and "cool". Prime example: the iPhone.
Yea but can you really use and IPhone as an example xD
Well in a sense I can see why he pulled that up.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Kaze Natsume on May 07, 2014, 08:50:31 PM
In life, when it comes to any choice, there will always be meta sheep who flock to things just because they're new and "cool". Prime example: the iPhone.
Yea but can you really use and IPhone as an example xD
Well in a sense I can see why he pulled that up.
Yea in a way i can too but still
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Seiryuu on May 08, 2014, 06:10:47 AM
I can understand how stuffs like that(bandwagon) easily irritates those who've long love and supported the clan even when they're not the coolest and the strongest there is. But as Sandy said, it's normal. When new stuffs come out, people will tend to pay their attention to it. Their curiosity take over them. And even if they suddenly declare that it's "their clan", maybe it's true. Perhaps before this what they thought suits them is after all, do not. But yeah..having an avatar for each clan is like... o3o" I, myself play around a lot of clan(except Bermuda, GN, DP & Nuba) but I've only RFD for my avatar ._. For other clan, I won't call it my avatar but I'll just call it, my favourite ace such as, Azure Dragon and Gauntlet Buster. I can't imagine being able to see yourself(That's my definition for avatar) in so many different units @_@ Testing is always fun. But when that's all you're facing for a week straight..well..that can be quite..boring and could lead to disappointment and frustration ._." If everyone stick with their clans during tourney or stuff like that(or take a break from experimenting the new stuffs for a day or two before resuming), then I agree that, it could possibly bring more fun to the game :D Though of course..that's just purely my thought about this.

Spoiler
P/S: No offense meant to those who love experimenting with the new stuff and release ^_^
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Gamerrepent on May 08, 2014, 09:55:47 AM
My 2 cents on the matter:
It's nice to be known for a specific clan and play the hell out of that clan even before it was heavily supported, but I don't think it would be any less fun if more people start playing the same clan I do. More competition in terms of card collection sure, but I don't think it would change my play style.
Then again, I rarely play vanguard just for fun...
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: HunterSerge on May 08, 2014, 09:57:58 AM
The bandwagon is honestly something I appreciate. When new cards are added, there are two things I want to do:

1. Test out a new build with the new stuff that I feel I'll enjoy and has potential.
2. See if my current builds will hold up against the new decks.

Especially for #2, everyone bandwagoning the new decks is extremely helpful.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: crossflames on May 08, 2014, 08:55:34 PM
So you're saying that would it be better if a played stayed 'loyal' to a clan that they had considered as their favorite? ^_^

Tch. Unfortunately, I still haven't found a clan that I've considered to be my favorite. (Though my favorite unit would have to be Dragonic Overlord The Reverse)
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Sandy on May 09, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
So you're saying that would it be better if a played stayed 'loyal' to a clan that they had considered as their favorite? ^_^

Tch. Unfortunately, I still haven't found a clan that I've considered to be my favorite. (Though my favorite unit would have to be Dragonic Overlord The Reverse)
I hear you, I mean I thought Jewel Knights was my clan, but then when Kourin poofed, so did any hope for future support of them so I kinda had to move on.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: WaiterFang on May 09, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
So you're saying that would it be better if a played stayed 'loyal' to a clan that they had considered as their favorite? ^_^

Tch. Unfortunately, I still haven't found a clan that I've considered to be my favorite. (Though my favorite unit would have to be Dragonic Overlord The Reverse)
I hear you, I mean I thought Jewel Knights was my clan, but then when Kourin poofed, so did any hope for future support of them so I kinda had to move on.
You could still play them even if they don't get support soon, you never know. We didn't think blockade would get support until they made him an entire deck in bt12.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: HunterSerge on May 09, 2014, 06:36:18 PM
So you're saying that would it be better if a played stayed 'loyal' to a clan that they had considered as their favorite? ^_^

Tch. Unfortunately, I still haven't found a clan that I've considered to be my favorite. (Though my favorite unit would have to be Dragonic Overlord The Reverse)
I hear you, I mean I thought Jewel Knights was my clan, but then when Kourin poofed, so did any hope for future support of them so I kinda had to move on.
You could still play them even if they don't get support soon, you never know. We didn't think blockade would get support until they made him an entire deck in bt12.
*BT11
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Lance Korilum on May 09, 2014, 07:15:05 PM
I also have to disagree with this.  Neo Nectar was always an interesting clan to me, but it never had a main card or ace that I liked very much, until Set 16, with Vera.  People may also think they like one clan, but as it changes with support over time, they may come to not like it anymore and want to change.  Although I do agree that people who change clans just so they can have "Meta" decks is silly, people shouldn't have to just stick to a few clans.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: WaiterFang on May 09, 2014, 07:26:46 PM
So you're saying that would it be better if a played stayed 'loyal' to a clan that they had considered as their favorite? ^_^

Tch. Unfortunately, I still haven't found a clan that I've considered to be my favorite. (Though my favorite unit would have to be Dragonic Overlord The Reverse)
I hear you, I mean I thought Jewel Knights was my clan, but then when Kourin poofed, so did any hope for future support of them so I kinda had to move on.
You could still play them even if they don't get support soon, you never know. We didn't think blockade would get support until they made him an entire deck in bt12.
*BT11
Ahhhh. I got them mixed up! Thank you for correcting me.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: UnknownKIRA on May 09, 2014, 10:13:42 PM
All I do is play cards I like. If I can afford it, I will try to buy it. If that is bandwagoning.. =x
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Hideyoshi on May 11, 2014, 03:14:54 AM
if its a player like me :3 i would love to play random decks that i dont often use exp:Etranger,ott,gn
so far i gt 1763 fun decks (got some deleted) 8)
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Magus TSS on May 11, 2014, 05:17:13 PM
I wish we could ask Kamui (anime) how he likes playing Nova's all the time. He hasn't used anything but Nova's. He's a good example for the question though. But for real life play it just wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Jai Hearts on May 11, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
as someone who has played with everyclan minus estranger, it is fun multi clanning and multi subclanning.

yes i do have my mains, but its still fun to switch and change it up a little.
people jumping on the most powerfull cards bandwagons always happens when there cards are first released, but once you find a way around them it is interesting to see how many times you can beat these so-called high tear decks with a lower tear deck.

even now allot of players dropped overlord rebirth for metal borgs.

so no vanguard wouldnt be fun if someone sticks to a single clan or maybe even a few more. never know what playstyle to expect from someone using any clan.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Ren «Я» on May 11, 2014, 10:45:53 PM
Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
I'd disagree since using all decks/clans and mastering them while maining certain clans actually makes u a better player if u can win/play well with all decks/clans
Also helps u when u face those clans/decks that u tested/etc cause then ull be able to beat it easier since you'll know what to expect, flaws , etc
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Hideyoshi on May 12, 2014, 03:36:37 AM
What my leader said :V he was the one that motivated me to start be a random deck guy
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 12, 2014, 01:54:30 PM
Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
I'd disagree since using all decks/clans and mastering them while maining certain clans actually makes u a better player if u can win/play well with all decks/clans
Also helps u when u face those clans/decks that u tested/etc cause then ull be able to beat it easier since you'll know what to expect, flaws , etc
That guy reads my mind. I was going to type the exact thing. That's one of the true reason you MUST use more than one Clan. Although it's better to main one and then try this little, experiment :P
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: dcdfvr on May 13, 2014, 04:33:54 AM
Only if all clans recieved the same amount of support as currently some clans are overshadowed *cough*grandblue*cough*
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Raien D. End on May 14, 2014, 07:06:30 AM
i can't find any clans that suite my soul yet,so i use them all except etranger.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Doctor Who on May 15, 2014, 04:26:41 AM
At least now I can really enjoy playing due to the fact that Bushi started to support clans that they didn't support for a long time.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 15, 2014, 04:07:43 PM
At least now I can really enjoy playing due to the fact that Bushi started to support clans that they didn't support for a long time.
That's true, but then...
-Hunter E.T Points finger on Granblue, Nubatama and Great Nature-
Doesnot they need support also? :3
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Jai Hearts on May 15, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
At least now I can really enjoy playing due to the fact that Bushi started to support clans that they didn't support for a long time.
That's true, but then...
-Hunter E.T Points finger on Granblue, Nubatama and Great Nature-
Doesnot they need support also? :3

-Jai points to the starving tachikazes in the dessert area.
i think the already are all comrads.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 17, 2014, 09:36:10 AM
At least now I can really enjoy playing due to the fact that Bushi started to support clans that they didn't support for a long time.
That's true, but then...
-Hunter E.T Points finger on Granblue, Nubatama and Great Nature-
Doesnot they need support also? :3

-Jai points to the starving tachikazes in the dessert area.
i think the already are all comrads.
You are right Tachikaze and Ancient Dragons has a helping hand. I hope Bushi see dat not only how they will make more profit...
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Ren «Я» on May 17, 2014, 10:41:43 PM
At least now I can really enjoy playing due to the fact that Bushi started to support clans that they didn't support for a long time.
That's true, but then...
-Hunter E.T Points finger on Granblue, Nubatama and Great Nature-
Doesnot they need support also? :3

-Jai points to the starving tachikazes in the dessert area.
i think the already are all comrads.
lol tachikaze already strong def if u use that new one with the ancient dragon stands with its LB can put pressure and if u run 4 spino 3 of that new g3 2 dark rex and 2 legends lol. u can win kinda easily tho if ur gonna build it like that i dont use stands but in a regular deck for it id use em.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Hideyoshi on June 01, 2014, 08:08:51 PM
At least now I can really enjoy playing due to the fact that Bushi started to support clans that they didn't support for a long time.
That's true, but then...
-Hunter E.T Points finger on Granblue, Nubatama and Great Nature-
Doesnot they need support also? :3

people forgetting bout etranger! i demand a spidermanxironman legion!
-Jai points to the starving tachikazes in the dessert area.
i think the already are all comrads.
lol tachikaze already strong def if u use that new one with the ancient dragon stands with its LB can put pressure and if u run 4 spino 3 of that new g3 2 dark rex and 2 legends lol. u can win kinda easily tho if ur gonna build it like that i dont use stands but in a regular deck for it id use em.
Title: Re: Would Vanguard be funner if everyone stuck with their clans ?
Post by: Judgement-Inferno on June 02, 2014, 02:25:13 AM
Sure. And if ur tired of it u can follow Ren-sama. Borrow someone's deck to use, although that ruins the whole purpose of this