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Title: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on May 09, 2014, 09:27:55 AM
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【VG-BT17】カードファイト!! ヴァンガード ブースターパック 17弾「煉獄焔舞」
Cardfight!! Vanguard Booster 17 - Blazing Perdition

This set is full of Key Cards used by Kai and his friends in the animated TV Series, "Cardfight!! Vanguard Legionmate Arc"! Strengthen your Deck with cards that use the new mechanic "Legion"! It contains a ton of powerful cards, as well as cards to make your "Will of the Locked Dragon" and "Divine Judgment of the Bluish Flames"!

This pack includes at least 1 New Legion for each of the 8 Clans included!!

Its already a powerful effect that's a hit with players! Get your hands on "Legion" ASAP!!

Clans Included:
- Gold Paladin
- Link Joker
- Kagero
- Royal Paladin
- Aqua Force
- Granblue
- Tachikaze
- Narukami

And this time the number of Legion Rares has doubled!!!
"Perdition Dragon, Vortex Dragnewt" and "Perdition Dragon, Whirlwind Dragon" are one of the Legion Rare Sets, while the other are "Bluish Flames Liberator, Prominence Core" and "Oath Liberator, Aglovale"!

In honor of "Blazing Perdition", the "O-dermade Deck Campaign" will be occuring!

Editor Note: The campaign is apparently a contest where the winner will have Dr. O make a deck for them. Details are unknown.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: M4tt on May 09, 2014, 09:49:30 AM
That set looks kind of...... crowded.
I hope Granblue gets the support they deserve without being ripped off by the other clans. 
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: FTLol on May 09, 2014, 10:28:17 AM
Yeah, I wish there's Ancient Dragon support, right now their choices are rather limited. And I hope if they are Ancient Dragons they can be used in normal Tachikaze, because I don't use Ancient Dragon.

And as for what Raul uses, it might be either AqF or GB.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: AuraWing on May 09, 2014, 12:02:49 PM
If granblue gets adequate support I will happily go back to them, they use to be my favourite clan
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: HunterSerge on May 09, 2014, 12:08:23 PM
granbluegranbluegranbluegranblue.

Just the promise of some sort of Legion is full of promise for Granblue. Very excited to see what it does. I don't mind if they don't get many cards, as long as the quality of cards is as high as it was in BT13 and FC14. Seal Dragon support is good, and I'd love a 2nd Link Joker Reverse.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: UnknownKIRA on May 09, 2014, 12:25:54 PM
Hahaha there's more Granblue hype here than expected! Though I probably won't be getting anything from this set since I don't plan to build seekers. The only decks I plan to build for Legion Mate season so far is Spike Brothers, Nova Grappler, and if there's a set for, Oracle Think Tank.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: M4tt on May 09, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
Hahaha there's more Granblue hype here than expected! Though I probably won't be getting anything from this set since I don't plan to build seekers. The only decks I plan to build for Legion Mate season so far is Spike Brothers, Nova Grappler, and if there's a set for, Oracle Think Tank.

Well Granblue's support is pretty sad. Hardly anyone plays it and the ones that do mainly use the same cards as everyone else. They deserve cards.

I'm not looking forward to anything in this set either. I play Kagero, but don't really like seal dragons. But I still might get a few cards I can use, so there's that. :/
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ヤタ on May 09, 2014, 12:41:42 PM
BT17 is dissapointing, it has all the big clans and I expect they're going to give Granblue and Tachikaze (The two clans that need it imo) the least support :/ And since those are the two clans I'd most likely build a deck out of IRL, I'm not very happy ;w;
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on May 09, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
No one is really 100%, they think the person who dropped it was a distributor, but other than that, I'm going to have to agree with you Yata, this booster, if it's real, is a real disappointment, feels unimaginative and pandering.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: WaiterFang on May 09, 2014, 04:49:04 PM
Yeah, I wish there's Ancient Dragon support, right now their choices are rather limited. And I hope if they are Ancient Dragons they can be used in normal Tachikaze, because I don't use Ancient Dragon.

And as for what Raul uses, it might be either AqF or GB.
Honestly, I'm hoping they put in Ancient Dragon support and introduce a new Tachikaze subclan or add to the Savages.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lance Korilum on May 09, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Not really anything surprising about this set. :/  The Narukami....  MIGHT be interested, but I doubt that any Legion they get is going to top Bigbang.  Royal Paladin...  Eeeeehhhh, it's a maybe.  Aqua Force I'm interested to see.  A new Blue Storm ace would be nice.  Kagero...  Probably Seal Dragons.  Depending on what they get, I might re-build Seal Dragons.  For Golds.... Well, I WANT to be excited...  But I'm not....  Other stuff...  I'm glad Tachi and Granblue are getting support, but I doubt they'll get as much as they should.  And Link Joker should just.... They have Glendios....  And that card that lets G3s boost......  I'm somewhat scared of what they're going to get.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on May 09, 2014, 05:05:12 PM
Eeeeehhhh.
Describes my feelings about this supposed booster perfectly.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ヤタ on May 09, 2014, 05:07:52 PM
Watch, in BT18
Oracle Think Tank support-*shot*
I'm way more hype for both EBs to be honest, this set is too big-clan centered. Well, Bushi has to have at least one money set every season :P
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: M4tt on May 09, 2014, 05:13:03 PM
Watch, in BT18
Oracle Think Tank support-*shot*
I'm way more hype for both EBs to be honest, this set is too big-clan centered. Well, Bushi has to have at least one money set every season :P
God, I wish.
Too bad OTT has been demoted to EB status.
They had their chance with Akari. IT WAS RIGHT IN THEIR GRASP!
But....... they denied it. They denied OTT one of the best chances of reappearing.
I still cry to this day. T-T
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ヤタ on May 09, 2014, 05:15:47 PM
That reminds me, Akari needs more screen time.
I mean, she IS 3rd best character for a reason :P
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Draxzorion on May 09, 2014, 05:31:28 PM
New Link Jokers! Lock, Lock, LOCK!
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: UnknownKIRA on May 09, 2014, 10:16:06 PM
I like the idea of Akari playing OTT!
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ChronosWyvern on May 09, 2014, 10:38:19 PM
I'm excited to see what the Kagero and Aqua force Legions will be. Though I see that Granblue and Tachikaze has been added. I hope that they get good support.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Magus TSS on May 10, 2014, 03:57:45 PM
Watch, in BT18
Oracle Think Tank support-*shot*
I'm way more hype for both EBs to be honest, this set is too big-clan centered. Well, Bushi has to have at least one money set every season :P
God, I wish.
Too bad OTT has been demoted to EB status.
They had their chance with Akari. IT WAS RIGHT IN THEIR GRASP!
But....... they denied it. They denied OTT one of the best chances of reappearing.
I still cry to this day. T-T
I agree Akari could have been a great addition especially playing Oracles if she actually played vanguard or if they could have spend some time well giving her more screen time. They could in theory still go about doing it, I just dunno how it would work in this season. Also you never know with Bushiroad. Though I am expecting support soon for Oracle Think Tank maybe in the form of a extra booster they may just not give Oracle a Legion at all.

Though I see that Granblue and Tachikaze has been added. I hope that they get good support.
I agree they really need the support. Granblue not as much though. Both clans will be watched closely especially with how strong of a push Bushi has done with our current Legion's.

Link Joker will also be watched because my greatest fears about them could be answered from this set.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on May 10, 2014, 05:00:58 PM
A lot of folks on the wiki and I, just view this as a major MEH. It's catering mainly to the big sellers and to be honest, comes off rather boring, save for of course the GB and tachi support, the latter of which seems a little weird but whatever. I for one shall be ignoring this and lamenting the fact I have to probably wait till the end of this year or the beginning of the next for anything interesting/fun.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 14, 2014, 03:51:14 AM
Hmm...
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- Clans Included: Gold Paladin, Link Joker, Kagero, Aqua Force, Granblue, Tachikaze, Royal Paladin, Narukami

I can agree that we will see GP and LJ support. Also I agree at Kagero support beacuse of Miwa, and RP and NK because of Mr. Kai and Mr. Naoki.
But I am not quite sure that AQ will be there since we already have speculation what Cera uses due to the next ep coming...
Spoiler
Neo Nectar Musketeers I mean.
Also, as I would love to see Granblue and Tachikaze support together in this pack, I hope that 1 of them will get the appropritae support...
Spoiler
Tachikaze AND Ancient Dragons, not only one of em.
Also I strongly believe that we will Angel Feather support beacuse of the Anime.
Spoiler
Didn't Mr Kai said that will look for Kourin too? So he will ask the current Ultra Rare about what happened to Kourin, they will not remember, they will CF, blah blah blah.
Last but not least I would definetely want see Nubatama there. It's one Clan that gain only 1 time supprot in the previous era and they need a new boss card.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Raien D. End on May 14, 2014, 07:20:31 AM
waiting for shadow paladin....
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on May 15, 2014, 02:21:54 PM
So we got the official name for the set:

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Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ヤタ on May 15, 2014, 02:32:05 PM
Blazing Perdition? What a weird name e.e
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Doctor Who on May 16, 2014, 07:13:11 AM
For those who watched the preview, i think they noticed some Musketeer units on Raul's side. Mistery uncovered. It may be a hybdrid deck but I doubt it. And people please remember that Bushi dictates the anime not anime dictates Bushi what to do.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Magus TSS on May 16, 2014, 07:33:59 AM
Also I strongly believe that we will Angel Feather support beacuse of the Anime.
Spoiler
Didn't Mr Kai said that will look for Kourin too? So he will ask the current Ultra Rare about what happened to Kourin, they will not remember, they will CF, blah blah blah.

I expect it to be a dedicated extra booster to them.

Spoiler
I would believe that if that was Kourin's ace deck. Except it isn't. I seriously doubt it's angel feather. That's more of Rekka's thing.

Spoiler
No none of this has happened yet. Also I wonder how they even play vanguard at this point since they never met Takato. They only got into it because Takato
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Touma Callum on May 16, 2014, 02:55:54 PM
I hope Granblue will get some nice stuff.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on May 16, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
I hope Granblue will get some nice stuff.
Ikr even tho achieving the "platina UB" field with Granblue with breakriding Nightmist over itself then using Nightsnow's skill from drop zone to superior breakride then call 2 more then LB for a full field of 5 rgs with +5k for a final turn status type field if they got legions Granblue would definitely be one of the strongest lol. one of the underestimated clans that i tend to beat the overated ones with kinda easily lol
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on May 16, 2014, 08:20:36 PM
Please keep in mind though, that none of this has been officially confirmed by bushiroad themselves and that this stuff was leaked by a 'supposed' distributor, there's going to be an event later today/early tomorrow that may or may not announce this or something else...or them just revealing all the crap we've seen before because c'mon, it's Bushi. But please, don't get your hopes up too high just yet.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on May 16, 2014, 08:48:01 PM
Please keep in mind though, that none of this has been officially confirmed by bushiroad themselves and that this stuff was leaked by a 'supposed' distributor, there's going to be an event later today/early tomorrow that may or may not announce this or something else...or them just revealing all the crap we've seen before because c'mon, it's Bushi. But please, don't get your hopes up too high just yet.
That's true but the "unconfirmed" skills usually turn out to be pretty much the same or slightly edited lol
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on May 16, 2014, 09:15:52 PM
Please keep in mind though, that none of this has been officially confirmed by bushiroad themselves and that this stuff was leaked by a 'supposed' distributor, there's going to be an event later today/early tomorrow that may or may not announce this or something else...or them just revealing all the crap we've seen before because c'mon, it's Bushi. But please, don't get your hopes up too high just yet.

This is the Twitter (https://twitter.com/Gproject_tcg) of the distributor.

We've gotten product information from them before. They can be trusted.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 17, 2014, 12:40:19 PM
yay a Tachikaze Legion  ;D i hope it will be the 'Ancient Dragon' subclan then i could easily make an op deck for sure. But come on Link Joker still gets Support? Doesn't that mean that either Aichi or a new side Boss Comes?
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on May 17, 2014, 03:01:45 PM
Please keep in mind though, that none of this has been officially confirmed by bushiroad themselves and that this stuff was leaked by a 'supposed' distributor, there's going to be an event later today/early tomorrow that may or may not announce this or something else...or them just revealing all the crap we've seen before because c'mon, it's Bushi. But please, don't get your hopes up too high just yet.

This is the Twitter (https://twitter.com/Gproject_tcg) of the distributor.

We've gotten product information from them before. They can be trusted.
I'm sorry but I'm not buying it until Bushiroad officially states as such.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 19, 2014, 07:12:42 AM
I am seriously disapointed...I saw granblue in and hoped Cera would use them afterall...but nooo he has to use NN. That means GB won't get a good ammount of support this time either...most likely...
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Kazehi on May 19, 2014, 09:59:27 AM
Perhaps all hope is not lost on clans getting new toys. I know that "Blue flame" something will be in Gold Paladins, and every fan boy will flock them again. XD
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 19, 2014, 12:28:04 PM
Perhaps all hope is not lost on clans getting new toys. I know that "Blue flame" something will be in Gold Paladins, and every fan boy will flock them again. XD

Indeed. But Cera not using Granblue almost implies yet again they won't recieve a good ammount of support...propably some basic stuff...like 1 or 2 legions etc...Which makes me sad :/
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 19, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
not the amount of Cards are important for a clan, but how the one that uses that clan uses them. After all i could beat a musketeer Legion with a normal "Ancient Dragons" deck
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 19, 2014, 02:03:28 PM
not the amount of Cards are important for a clan, but how the one that uses that clan uses them. After all i could beat a musketeer Legion with a normal "Ancient Dragons" deck

Well...Ancient Dragon's aren't exactly weak...soo yeah.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: FTLol on May 19, 2014, 10:29:53 PM
not the amount of Cards are important for a clan, but how the one that uses that clan uses them. After all i could beat a musketeer Legion with a normal "Ancient Dragons" deck

Well...Ancient Dragon's aren't exactly weak...soo yeah.

I think lucius isn't trying to say Ancient Dragon is weak. I think he's trying to say AD have limited support but he is still able to beat Musketeer which have more support compared to AD, or something like that. Probably.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 01:51:53 AM
Thats exactly my Point FTLol, and i never said it was weak, i said it doesn't have many Units available.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ChronosWyvern on May 20, 2014, 02:43:32 AM
I agree they really need the support. Granblue not as much though. Both clans will be watched closely especially with how strong of a push Bushi has done with our current Legion's.

Link Joker will also be watched because my greatest fears about them could be answered from this set.

I'm quite scared of what Link Joker Legion will do.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 03:33:04 AM
I agree they really need the support. Granblue not as much though. Both clans will be watched closely especially with how strong of a push Bushi has done with our current Legion's.

Link Joker will also be watched because my greatest fears about them could be answered from this set.

I'm quite scared of what Link Joker Legion will do.

Meh, I don't really care about what LJ legion will do. It will propably  be something like ''when this unit perfoms legion lock 2 of your opponents rear guards'', or...maybe it'd be an [ACT] either way, don't really care. I am more interested to who will actually use LJ. Most of us assume Aichi..but...not sure
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 03:36:26 AM
Thats exactly my Point FTLol, and i never said it was weak, i said it doesn't have many Units available.

Ah, sorry. I didn't mean to say it the way it came out myself. What I wanted to say is that, even with an ''Ancient Dragon'' deck which has limited cards, it's preety much possible to win. It depends on the user and how good you play.
S1 decks be still winning afterall.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 01:21:00 PM
I agree they really need the support. Granblue not as much though. Both clans will be watched closely especially with how strong of a push Bushi has done with our current Legion's.

Link Joker will also be watched because my greatest fears about them could be answered from this set.

I'm quite scared of what Link Joker Legion will do.

Meh, I don't really care about what LJ legion will do. It will propably  be something like ''when this unit perfoms legion lock 2 of your opponents rear guards'', or...maybe it'd be an [ACT] either way, don't really care. I am more interested to who will actually use LJ. Most of us assume Aichi..but...not sure

Or something completely new and broken Comes out like: 'at the turn this unit performed Legion, if your opponents unit is in Legion choose one of your opponents vanguards and lock it'
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
I agree they really need the support. Granblue not as much though. Both clans will be watched closely especially with how strong of a push Bushi has done with our current Legion's.

Link Joker will also be watched because my greatest fears about them could be answered from this set.

I'm quite scared of what Link Joker Legion will do.

Meh, I don't really care about what LJ legion will do. It will propably  be something like ''when this unit perfoms legion lock 2 of your opponents rear guards'', or...maybe it'd be an [ACT] either way, don't really care. I am more interested to who will actually use LJ. Most of us assume Aichi..but...not sure

Or something completely new and broken Comes out like: 'at the turn this unit performed Legion, if your opponents unit is in Legion choose one of your opponents vanguards and lock it'

Something like that [the way you worded it] won't come out, coz it means you'll be able to lock the g3 vg in legion , leaving your opponent with g2 only. If the skill states [chose one of your opponents g2 or lower vanguards] then...yes...i can see it happening maybe.
PS: ofc a skill like that would be useable if your opponents vg is in legion
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 01:26:29 PM
I agree they really need the support. Granblue not as much though. Both clans will be watched closely especially with how strong of a push Bushi has done with our current Legion's.

Link Joker will also be watched because my greatest fears about them could be answered from this set.

I'm quite scared of what Link Joker Legion will do.

Meh, I don't really care about what LJ legion will do. It will propably  be something like ''when this unit perfoms legion lock 2 of your opponents rear guards'', or...maybe it'd be an [ACT] either way, don't really care. I am more interested to who will actually use LJ. Most of us assume Aichi..but...not sure

Or something completely new and broken Comes out like: 'at the turn this unit performed Legion, if your opponents unit is in Legion choose one of your opponents vanguards and lock it'

Something like that [the way you worded it] won't come out, coz it means you'll be able to lock the g3 vg in legion , leaving your opponent with g2 only. If the skill states [chose one of your opponents g2 or lower vanguards] then...yes...i can see it happening maybe.
PS: ofc a skill like that would be useable if your opponents vg is in legion

hmm i see, but if it would come out then it could even stop cat butler since the G2 is locked
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
I agree they really need the support. Granblue not as much though. Both clans will be watched closely especially with how strong of a push Bushi has done with our current Legion's.

Link Joker will also be watched because my greatest fears about them could be answered from this set.

I'm quite scared of what Link Joker Legion will do.

Meh, I don't really care about what LJ legion will do. It will propably  be something like ''when this unit perfoms legion lock 2 of your opponents rear guards'', or...maybe it'd be an [ACT] either way, don't really care. I am more interested to who will actually use LJ. Most of us assume Aichi..but...not sure

Or something completely new and broken Comes out like: 'at the turn this unit performed Legion, if your opponents unit is in Legion choose one of your opponents vanguards and lock it'

Something like that [the way you worded it] won't come out, coz it means you'll be able to lock the g3 vg in legion , leaving your opponent with g2 only. If the skill states [chose one of your opponents g2 or lower vanguards] then...yes...i can see it happening maybe.
PS: ofc a skill like that would be useable if your opponents vg is in legion

hmm i see, but if it would come out then it could even stop cat butler since the G2 is locked

True. I don't think it's impossible for something like that to come out. It's Bushitroll afterall.
That and, if a way to lock the Mate doesn't appear, the locking won't be surprising...everyone of our protagonists have witnessed Lock now..once they see they're fighting LJ they'll know Lock is coming. But if suddenly their main get's loved...now that'd surprise them...I think it's gonna happen for the sake of the plot as well :/
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
So true, every Legion skill was always so broken that something like that is actually needed for LJ to Keep up with them
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 01:37:06 PM
So true, every Legion skill was always so broken that something like that is actually needed for LJ to Keep with them

Well, I wouldn't call them exactly broken. Not on their own at least. Maybe with other card combos they're more threatening. Like Sin Buster and laurel. Or Mega Flare and cat butler.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 01:41:08 PM
well i actually do have a Problem with SSSD because if done right you can actually attack your Opponent 3 times in a turn
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 01:43:23 PM
well i actually do have a Problem with SSSD because if done right you can actually attack your Opponent 3 times in a turn

That's still manageable imo. Attacking your opponent twice with +30k power, and 2 criticals and also being unable to use g1's or above, thus no PG or even QW...is way worse.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 01:51:11 PM
well i actually do have a Problem with SSSD because if done right you can actually attack your Opponent 3 times in a turn

That's still manageable imo. Attacking your opponent twice with +30k power, and 2 criticals and also being unable to use g1's or above, thus no PG or even QW...is way worse.

lol so true, DP and NG are always having completely broken Card effects, but well as Long as they won't become far too broken it is ok.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 01:53:02 PM
well i actually do have a Problem with SSSD because if done right you can actually attack your Opponent 3 times in a turn

That's still manageable imo. Attacking your opponent twice with +30k power, and 2 criticals and also being unable to use g1's or above, thus no PG or even QW...is way worse.

lol so true, DP and NG are always having completely broken Card effects, but well as Long as they won't become far too broken it is ok.

Yeah true. Hence why I think those 2 combos need a restriction.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
well i actually do have a Problem with SSSD because if done right you can actually attack your Opponent 3 times in a turn

That's still manageable imo. Attacking your opponent twice with +30k power, and 2 criticals and also being unable to use g1's or above, thus no PG or even QW...is way worse.

lol so true, DP and NG are always having completely broken Card effects, but well as Long as they won't become far too broken it is ok.

Yeah true. Hence why I think those 2 combos need a restriction.

like: 'You may not use BR Units with Legion Units in one deck' right?
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ''The Diablo'' Blaster on May 20, 2014, 02:07:14 PM
well i actually do have a Problem with SSSD because if done right you can actually attack your Opponent 3 times in a turn

That's still manageable imo. Attacking your opponent twice with +30k power, and 2 criticals and also being unable to use g1's or above, thus no PG or even QW...is way worse.

lol so true, DP and NG are always having completely broken Card effects, but well as Long as they won't become far too broken it is ok.

Yeah true. Hence why I think those 2 combos need a restriction.

like: 'You may not use BR Units with Legion Units in one deck' right?

It's not Daikaiser the problem in the DP one. It's laurel. It's laurel who needs a restriction at least.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 20, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
well i actually do have a Problem with SSSD because if done right you can actually attack your Opponent 3 times in a turn

That's still manageable imo. Attacking your opponent twice with +30k power, and 2 criticals and also being unable to use g1's or above, thus no PG or even QW...is way worse.

lol so true, DP and NG are always having completely broken Card effects, but well as Long as they won't become far too broken it is ok.

Yeah true. Hence why I think those 2 combos need a restriction.

like: 'You may not use BR Units with Legion Units in one deck' right?

It's not Daikaiser the problem in the DP one. It's laurel. It's laurel who needs a restriction at least.
ah i see that 4k g1 yes that guy is as nearly as broken as cat butler
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 20, 2014, 03:45:04 PM
Guys, guys. Stop fighting over the Internet about Mega Butler and Laurel the Sin. The 2 new Extra Booster will have some more knew broken cards that could raise against These 2 builds. Also do not forget about LJ. Do not ever!!! :D

P.S: Points at Regalia with the cards form Anime :3
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ヤタ on May 20, 2014, 04:17:29 PM
P.S: Points at Regalia with the cards form Anime :3

*points at Genesis Extra Booster*
:3
Yeah, I can't wait for that x.x
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on May 20, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Guys, guys. Stop fighting over the Internet about Mega Butler and Laurel the Sin. The 2 new Extra Booster will have some more knew broken cards that could raise against These 2 builds. Also do not forget about LJ. Do not ever!!! :D

P.S: Points at Regalia with the cards form Anime :3
Yggdrasil isn't a broken skill though >.> it's one that's been around for a bit. And it really depends on what further support they're going to add for the witches, for all we know 9/10 of the whole archetype isn't the user gets to choose the grade 0, but the opponent get's to choose what grade 0, that'd be kinda sad.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 20, 2014, 11:12:11 PM
waiting for shadow paladin....

It's in the EB right? It would be rather convenient for SP to be in the EB's. Making sure you get ALL SP no other clans included.  ;D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Zero Radiance on May 21, 2014, 12:07:55 AM
Finally, some non-Reverse support for Link Joker. I'm not a fan of Halcium, and I can't wait to see what kind of support my favorite clan gets.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 21, 2014, 12:12:36 AM
I was wondering... what if the Granblue Legion's idea would be a G2 Undead Parrot + a G3 Pirate like Blackbeard... just sayin'...
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK Hunter] E.T on May 21, 2014, 01:52:29 AM
Guys, guys. Stop fighting over the Internet about Mega Butler and Laurel the Sin. The 2 new Extra Booster will have some more knew broken cards that could raise against These 2 builds. Also do not forget about LJ. Do not ever!!! :D

P.S: Points at Regalia with the cards from Anime :3
Yggdrasil isn't a broken skill though >.> it's one that's been around for a bit. And it really depends on what further support they're going to add for the witches, for all we know 9/10 of the whole archetype isn't the user gets to choose the grade 0, but the opponent get's to choose what grade 0, that'd be kinda sad.
I didn't really mean Yggdrasil but her Mate....
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 21, 2014, 03:03:35 AM
Guys, guys. Stop fighting over the Internet about Mega Butler and Laurel the Sin. The 2 new Extra Booster will have some more knew broken cards that could raise against These 2 builds. Also do not forget about LJ. Do not ever!!! :D

P.S: Points at Regalia with the cards from Anime :3
Yggdrasil isn't a broken skill though >.> it's one that's been around for a bit. And it really depends on what further support they're going to add for the witches, for all we know 9/10 of the whole archetype isn't the user gets to choose the grade 0, but the opponent get's to choose what grade 0, that'd be kinda sad.
I didn't really mean Yggdrasil but her Mate....

Norn? +5k to VG when put to Drop Zone from soul?  ;D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 21, 2014, 08:23:36 AM
Guys, guys. Stop fighting over the Internet about Mega Butler and Laurel the Sin. The 2 new Extra Booster will have some more knew broken cards that could raise against These 2 builds. Also do not forget about LJ. Do not ever!!! :D

P.S: Points at Regalia with the cards from Anime :3
Yggdrasil isn't a broken skill though >.> it's one that's been around for a bit. And it really depends on what further support they're going to add for the witches, for all we know 9/10 of the whole archetype isn't the user gets to choose the grade 0, but the opponent get's to choose what grade 0, that'd be kinda sad.
I didn't really mean Yggdrasil but her Mate....

Norn? +5k to VG when put to Drop Zone from soul?  ;D
hmm though that Card is quite good it can still be beaten with a PG, so i don't think i would call her broken
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: T-QK Kai on May 21, 2014, 08:30:16 AM
I was wondering... what if the Granblue Legion's idea would be a G2 Undead Parrot + a G3 Pirate like Blackbeard... just sayin'...

hmm then we should make nightnow grade 3 and deadly spirit grade 2 as legion xD
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 21, 2014, 08:50:31 AM
I was wondering... what if the Granblue Legion's idea would be a G2 Undead Parrot + a G3 Pirate like Blackbeard... just sayin'...

hmm then we should make nightnow grade 3 and deadly spirit grade 2 as legion xD

This is a good idea.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: T-QK Kai on May 21, 2014, 08:51:51 AM
I was wondering... what if the Granblue Legion's idea would be a G2 Undead Parrot + a G3 Pirate like Blackbeard... just sayin'...

hmm then we should make nightnow grade 3 and deadly spirit grade 2 as legion xD

This is a good idea.

 ;D but will they make it xD  :P too bad my dream fall into a well
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 21, 2014, 11:38:15 AM
hahaha! What about my idea for BT17? XD wouldn't it be rejected as well. I'll celebrate if that ever happens tho. Lol
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: HunterSerge on May 21, 2014, 11:58:27 AM
I'd much rather the Mate for the Granblue Legion be a Counterblast-based Self-reviver that doesn't suck.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Magus TSS on May 26, 2014, 09:31:45 AM
I'd much rather the Mate for the Granblue Legion be a Counterblast-based Self-reviver that doesn't suck.
What if it was free when you Legion?
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: HunterSerge on May 26, 2014, 01:22:32 PM
I'd much rather the Mate for the Granblue Legion be a Counterblast-based Self-reviver that doesn't suck.
What if it was free when you Legion?
That works too, but if we were to get an on-Legion revival, I'd prefer for it to not require a sacrifice, due to it being limited to a specific timing.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Doctor Who on May 26, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
I want real plusses from granblue not just 1 for exchange.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: T-QK Kai on May 26, 2014, 11:19:23 PM
I want real plusses from granblue not just 1 for exchange.

dont use granblue it is the weakest deck xD using granblue can make us deckout i never used granblue and i will never us it  >:(
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 27, 2014, 01:44:57 AM
I want real plusses from granblue not just 1 for exchange.

dont use granblue it is the weakest deck xD using granblue can make us deckout i never used granblue and i will never us it  >:(
Kai you can't say something like this, after all everyone has their own preferences and we shouldn't interfere with the Gameplay of others no matter what. By the way, i think if you can breakride with the new unit in GB then your chances to win are quite good i think.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Doctor Who on May 27, 2014, 03:45:18 AM
I want real plusses from granblue not just 1 for exchange.

dont use granblue it is the weakest deck xD using granblue can make us deckout i never used granblue and i will never us it  >:(
Kai you can't say something like this, after all everyone has their own preferences and we shouldn't interfere with the Gameplay of others no matter what. By the way, i think if you can breakride with the new unit in GB then your chances to win are quite good i think.
How about double breakride? I mean we have our own 11k superior ride... all they need is a little bit more soulcharging.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: T-QK Kai on May 27, 2014, 04:48:38 AM
I want real plusses from granblue not just 1 for exchange.

dont use granblue it is the weakest deck xD using granblue can make us deckout i never used granblue and i will never us it  >:(
Kai you can't say something like this, after all everyone has their own preferences and we shouldn't interfere with the Gameplay of others no matter what. By the way, i think if you can breakride with the new unit in GB then your chances to win are quite good i think.

xD see you also told "i think" :) so thats means you also know if using granblue can get deckout :(
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on May 28, 2014, 09:32:12 AM
I want real plusses from granblue not just 1 for exchange.

dont use granblue it is the weakest deck xD using granblue can make us deckout i never used granblue and i will never us it  >:(
Kai you can't say something like this, after all everyone has their own preferences and we shouldn't interfere with the Gameplay of others no matter what. By the way, i think if you can breakride with the new unit in GB then your chances to win are quite good i think.

xD see you also told "i think" :) so thats means you also know if using granblue can get deckout :(
thats just a disadvantage, after all Dragonic Overlord the rebirth, Genesis, Dark irregular and Pale moon also deckout quite fast.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Magus TSS on May 30, 2014, 05:10:06 PM
thats just a disadvantage, after all Dragonic Overlord the rebirth, Genesis, Dark irregular and Pale moon also deckout quite fast.
I rarely see a deck out. Outside of Granblue and Bermuda. If played right no deck should really be decking out. Unless like 10+ hands for both of you or something.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Rikkudo Ren Sama on May 31, 2014, 02:12:10 AM
thats just a disadvantage, after all Dragonic Overlord the rebirth, Genesis, Dark irregular and Pale moon also deckout quite fast.
I rarely see a deck out. Outside of Granblue and Bermuda. If played right no deck should really be decking out. Unless like 10+ hands for both of you or something.
I agree. I play Bermuda Triangle and I seldom deck out, maybe once but my opponent would also deck out xD It's all up to gameplay. If you'd risk milling I see no problem as long as you have something up your sleeve. The double BR mentioned is part of the strategy. Not wasting hand for powerful RG's especially with an empty field. The double BR may cripple if not defeat your opponent. :)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK Salamander] DanJD on June 01, 2014, 01:36:53 PM
i feel like if there will be another season (i think it will) all of them will use grade 4 cards instead of limit break and legion. Who cares about those i would love to see aichi playing exculpate the blaster it would make him cool for once :p
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Killa on June 01, 2014, 02:24:26 PM
i feel like if there will be another season (i think it will) all of them will use grade 4 cards instead of limit break and legion. Who cares about those i would love to see aichi playing exculpate the blaster it would make him cool for once :p

Excuplate the blaster is a bad card so i would prefer a grade 4 Blaster Blade for aichi to use... :P
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on June 01, 2014, 03:21:50 PM
i feel like if there will be another season (i think it will) all of them will use grade 4 cards instead of limit break and legion. Who cares about those i would love to see aichi playing exculpate the blaster it would make him cool for once :p

Excuplate the blaster is a bad card so i would prefer a grade 4 Blaster Blade for aichi to use... :P
naw Exculpate is actually quite a good starting endgame Card when your Opponent has all 5 rg circle full
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Judgement-Inferno on June 02, 2014, 05:34:31 AM
Hoping good cards for Tachi and Gran. Would build GP anyways, so might use the cards for Tachi and Gran if they're good too. Kourin LJ?
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Doctor Who on June 02, 2014, 06:29:13 AM
naw Exculpate is actually quite a good starting endgame Card when your Opponent has all 5 rg circle full
Tell that to Martina.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on June 02, 2014, 08:13:23 AM
naw Exculpate is actually quite a good starting endgame Card when your Opponent has all 5 rg circle full
Tell that to Martina.
Even Martina could be in trouble since she Needs to put back 5 normal Units which is rather unusual (well she still gets a freebee because of exculpate but still)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Doctor Who on June 03, 2014, 02:20:33 AM
naw Exculpate is actually quite a good starting endgame Card when your Opponent has all 5 rg circle full
Tell that to Martina.
Even Martina could be in trouble since she Needs to put back 5 normal Units which is rather unusual (well she still gets a freebee because of exculpate but still)
You will regenerate your field but not entirely. However, if I call two Sauls, you are in trouble boy.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on June 03, 2014, 03:11:03 PM
I figured it'd be best to put all the Trial Deck info in this thread as well, as the product description (http://cf-vanguard.com/products/#td16) confirms that there will be support for them in BT17.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/td16.jpg)

Trial Deck 16: Divine Judgment of the Bluish Flames

Release Date: July 11, 2014

Constructed deck of 50 cards. Each deck includes 1 RRR and 2 R cards.
15 new cards, 2 reprinted. 17 types total.
Includes cards used by Olivier Gaillard in the new anime season "Cardfight!! Vanguard Legion Mate".
Includes Legions for the Gold Paladin clan.
Further support for the clan to be included in the next booster set, "Blazing Perdition" (Release Date: August 8, 2014).

(http://cf-vanguard.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/td16_02.jpg)

"TD16: Divine Judgment of the Bluish Flames" Starter Set

Each starter set will include a copy of the 50 card Trial Deck including:

- RRR foil versions of the following cards:
- 1 Cardfight!! Pack Vol. 14 pack
- [Limited Edition] Password for obtaining "Shine Spear Liberator, Reinet" in the game "Cardfight!! Vanguard: Lock on Victory!!" for the Nintendo 3DS.
- [Limited] Pack of 53 specially made "Gaillard" mini card sleeves
- [Limited] 1 "Gaillard" deckbox
- [Limited] 1 "Gaillard" Fighter's Counter
- [Limited] 3 RRR Promo Cards:

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/td17.jpg)

TD17: Will of the Locked Dragon

Release Date: July 11, 2014

Constructed deck of 50 cards. Each deck includes 1 RRR and 2 R cards.
15 new cards, 2 reprinted. 17 types total.
Includes cards used by Aichi Sendou in the new anime season "Cardfight!! Vanguard Legion Mate".
Includes Legions for the Link Joker clan.
Further support for the clan to be included in the next booster set, "Blazing Perdition" (Release Date: August 8, 2014).

(http://cf-vanguard.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/td17_02.jpg)

"TD17: Will of the Locked Dragon" Starter Set

Each starter set will include a copy of the 50 card Trial Deck including:

- RRR foil versions of the following cards:
- 1 Cardfight!! Pack Vol. 14 pack
- [Limited Edition] Password for obtaining "Binary Star Twin Gunner" in the game "Cardfight!! Vanguard: Lock on Victory!!" for the Nintendo 3DS.
- [Limited] Pack of 53 specially made mini card sleeves
- [Limited] 1 deckbox
- [Limited] 1 Fighter's Counter
- [Limited] 3 RRR Promo Cards:
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Killa on June 05, 2014, 12:34:35 PM
I figured it'd be best to put all the Trial Deck info in this thread as well, as the product description (http://cf-vanguard.com/products/#td16) confirms that there will be support for them in BT17.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/td16.jpg)

Trial Deck 16: Divine Judgment of the Bluish Flames

Release Date: July 11, 2014

Constructed deck of 50 cards. Each deck includes 1 RRR and 2 R cards.
15 new cards, 2 reprinted. 17 types total.
Includes cards used by Olivier Gaillard in the new anime season "Cardfight!! Vanguard Legion Mate".
Includes Legions for the Gold Paladin clan.
Further support for the clan to be included in the next booster set, "Blazing Perdition" (Release Date: August 8, 2014).

(http://cf-vanguard.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/td16_02.jpg)

"TD16: Divine Judgment of the Bluish Flames" Starter Set

Each starter set will include a copy of the 50 card Trial Deck including:

- RRR foil versions of the following cards:
  • Blue Flame Liberator, Percival
  • Liberator of Oath, Aglovale
  • Liberator of Royalty, Phallon (http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140603133320/cardfight/images/3/34/180px-Liberator_of_Royalty%2C_Phallon_%28Anime-LM%29.png)
- 1 Cardfight!! Pack Vol. 14 pack
- [Limited Edition] Password for obtaining "Shine Spear Liberator, Reinet" in the game "Cardfight!! Vanguard: Lock on Victory!!" for the Nintendo 3DS.
- [Limited] Pack of 53 specially made "Gaillard" mini card sleeves
- [Limited] 1 "Gaillard" deckbox
- [Limited] 1 "Gaillard" Fighter's Counter
- [Limited] 3 RRR Promo Cards:
  • Evening Rain Liberator, Trahern (BT17 Preview card)
  • Twin Axe Liberator, Bassia (BT17 Preview card)
  • Little Fighter, Cron (Reprint)

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/td17.jpg)

TD17: Will of the Locked Dragon

Release Date: July 11, 2014

Constructed deck of 50 cards. Each deck includes 1 RRR and 2 R cards.
15 new cards, 2 reprinted. 17 types total.
Includes cards used by Aichi Sendou in the new anime season "Cardfight!! Vanguard Legion Mate".
Includes Legions for the Link Joker clan.
Further support for the clan to be included in the next booster set, "Blazing Perdition" (Release Date: August 8, 2014).

(http://cf-vanguard.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/td17_02.jpg)

"TD17: Will of the Locked Dragon" Starter Set

Each starter set will include a copy of the 50 card Trial Deck including:

- RRR foil versions of the following cards:
  • Star-vader, Garnet Star Dragon
  • Companion Star Star-vader, Photon
  • Unrivaled Star-vader, Radon
- 1 Cardfight!! Pack Vol. 14 pack
- [Limited Edition] Password for obtaining "Binary Star Twin Gunner" in the game "Cardfight!! Vanguard: Lock on Victory!!" for the Nintendo 3DS.
- [Limited] Pack of 53 specially made mini card sleeves
- [Limited] 1 deckbox
- [Limited] 1 Fighter's Counter
- [Limited] 3 RRR Promo Cards:
  • Star-vader, Astro Reaper (BT17 Preview card)
  • Star-vader, Bolt Line (BT17 Preview card)
  • Black Ring Chains, Pleiades (Reprint)

WAIT WHAAAAT?? Aichi with link joger cards???? what a twist . :/
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: TimPowerGamer on June 05, 2014, 11:41:56 PM
On one hand, nobody really bought the Daigo mega trial deck here.  On the other hand, if they released any of the other MTD's, they would have sold amazingly.  So I wish they would bring them over, but they probably think that's a bad idea after using the worst deck possible to bring over after taking everything Daigo out of it.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on June 09, 2014, 04:16:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vo6euEI.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/RK5ng7v.jpg)

The main visual for "Blazing Perdition" and news about the set has arrived.

This set is full of Key Cards used by Kai and his friends in the animated TV Series, "Cardfight!! Vanguard Legionmate Arc"! Strengthen your Deck with cards that use the new mechanic "Legion"! It contains a ton of powerful cards, as well as cards to make your "Will of the Locked Dragon" and "Divine Judgment of the Bluish Flames"!

This pack includes at least 1 New Legion for each of the 8 Clans included!!

Its already a powerful effect that's a hit with players! Get your hands on "Legion" ASAP!!

Clans Included:
- Gold Paladin
- Link Joker
- Kagero
- Royal Paladin
- Aqua Force
- Granblue
- Tachikaze
- Narukami

And this time the number of Legion Rares has doubled!!!
"Perdition Dragon, Vortex Dragonewt" and "Perdition Dragon, Whirlwind Dragon" are one of the Legion Rare Sets, while the other are "Bluish Flames Liberator, Prominence Core" and "Oath Liberator, Aglovale"!

In honor of "Blazing Perdition", the "O-dermade Deck Campaign" will be occurring!

This set goes on sale August 8th, 2014!
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on June 09, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
That's good stuff right there!
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Magus TSS on June 09, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
Clans Included:
- Gold Paladin
- Link Joker
- Kagero
- Royal Paladin
- Aqua Force
- Granblue
- Tachikaze
- Narukami
Alright so.
Link Joker is the biggest threat this set so far. Eyes will be on it heavily.
Royal might be able to use the support in the set to power Sing Savor if not restricted.
Kagero is very close behind it and I do not believe they will restrict the grade 4 to help the set sell. Yet...
Aqua Force will be interesting to see what stuff they will come up with especially since they can attack multiple times fast.
Then Narukami is about the same as Kagero hopes for no Eradicator support give it to Dungree instead. >.>

Tachikaze, Royal, Gold, and Granblue I'm looking forward to the most from these clans.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ninja Master Z on June 12, 2014, 04:13:59 AM
Aww man, no new megacolony support.
I sympathize with the spike bros players now T_T
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Zeyn on June 12, 2014, 08:19:19 AM
http://blog.livedoor.jp/freedomduo/archives/cat_10191.html

On here is the link for a spoiler made officially by Bushiroad. It leaks a grade 1 skill in BT17 that is translated:

"G1 / POWER: 7000 / GUARD: 5000
(R): Your VG's <LB4> skills can be
activated even if you have 3 or less
cards in your damage zone".

So for all you LB 4 lovers out there (including me), you may now begin to squeal in excitement.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ShackledAlice on June 12, 2014, 08:28:36 AM
http://blog.livedoor.jp/freedomduo/archives/cat_10191.html

On here is the link for a spoiler made officially by Bushiroad. It leaks a grade 1 skill in BT17 that is translated:

"G1 / POWER: 7000 / GUARD: 5000
(R): Your VG's <LB4> skills can be
activated even if you have 3 or less
cards in your damage zone".

So for all you LB 4 lovers out there (including me), you may now begin to squeal in excitement.

If that's available for all clans, I can see legions flailing slightly.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on June 19, 2014, 06:02:51 PM
The schedule so far concerning this...

July ? - Fight Event - Revival Grade 3 "CEO Amaterasu"
July 8th - Monthly Bushiroad Vol. 8 - Revival Grade 3 "CEO Amaterasu" and another Oracle Think Tank Legion
July 11th - Trial Deck "Will of the Locked Dragon" & "Divine Judgment of the Bluish Flames" - Link Joker, Gold Paladin
Second Half of July - Summer Legion Festival! - Pale Moon, Megacolony, Great Nature, Murakumo, Angel Feather and Royal Paladin Legions
August ?  - August Fight Event - Revival Grade 3 "Top Idol, Riviere"
August 8th - Monthly Bushiroad Vol. 9  - Nubatama Legion
August 8th - Booster Pack "Blazing Perdition" - Kagero, Aqua Force, Tachikaze, Granblue, Royal Paladin, Narukami, Gold Paladin, Link Joker
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on June 19, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
I wonder if the new Riviere cards gonna be a power card...
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on June 21, 2014, 08:31:54 AM
i hope the Tachikaze Legion will be something amazing like spinodrivers skill.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on June 22, 2014, 05:15:13 AM
*crosses her fingers and prays* Jewel knights, jewel knights!
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on June 27, 2014, 12:29:15 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10513323_10202442245795369_6016933714379216257_n.jpg)(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10484674_10202442245755368_7116071429198506762_n.jpg)

Brawler, Big Bang Slash Buster
G2/Narukami/Thunder Dragon/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When this unit attacks, if you have a vanguard with "Big Bang Knuckle" in its card name, this unit gets Power +2000 until end of that battle.
AUTO [R]: When your vanguard with "Big Bang Knuckle" in its card name's attack hits, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of turn.

Brawler, Big Bang Knuckle Buster
G3/Narukami/Thunder Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Brawler, Big Bang Slash Buster"
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 1 & Choose one card with "Big Bang Knuckle" in its card name from your hand, and put it into your soul] If this unit is in Legion, until end of turn, this unit gets Power +5000 and "CONT [V]: When choosing a unit for this unit's attack, choose four of your opponent's units, this unit battles every chosen units in one attack.".
CONT [V]: If you have a card named "Brawler, Big Bang Knuckle Dragon" in your soul, this unit gets Power +2000.

The first Legion crossride and it's a doozy.

Slash Buster is a vast improvement over its original form. The added Miranda style boost really helps it. I really think they should do more units like that. :D

Knuckle Buster is a very strong card that definitely breathes life into its original form. Killing any 3 rear-guards while also attacking the vanguard? Yes please.

It can also build its own crossride body with the ability, which is definitely nice since you will definitely want to ride this guy first if you had the choice between the two.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lance Korilum on June 27, 2014, 01:22:14 AM
Oh...  My...  God...  This...  IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!!  I can't wait for this to be added, so that I may destroy, or should I say bust, all in my path with the power of the might Big Bang Knuckle!!!  These new, improved abilities just take Big Bang Knuckle to a whole new level, especially being able to do it multiple turns in a row, since I had expected it to only be during the turn it Legioned.  This is a very nice turn of events, and I certainly will be maining this for a time.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on June 27, 2014, 03:40:22 AM
Just remember, if the opponent's vanguard is in legion, he counts as 'two' targets, so when this guy swings, he has two choices. The first is not attacking the vg and instead attacking four rearguards, or swinging at the vanguard and only being able to attack two rg's.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on June 27, 2014, 05:16:17 AM
Just remember, if the opponent's vanguard is in legion, he counts as 'two' targets, so when this guy swings, he has two choices. The first is not attacking the vg and instead attacking four rearguards, or swinging at the vanguard and only being able to attack two rg's.

I'm not really sure about that.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on June 27, 2014, 05:41:49 AM
Just remember, if the opponent's vanguard is in legion, he counts as 'two' targets, so when this guy swings, he has two choices. The first is not attacking the vg and instead attacking four rearguards, or swinging at the vanguard and only being able to attack two rg's.

I'm not really sure about that.
"When choosing a unit for this unit's attack, choose four of your opponent's units, this unit battles every chosen units in one attack." Notice how it doesn't mention Rearguards or Vanguards? It only says 'unit' even the vanguard is a 'unit'  and when in legion, the vg counts as two units, and this doesn't activate WHEN he's attacking, so thus, out of the four targets, you either have to target 4 rearguards and not the vanguard OR you have to target the vanguard, which counts as two and thus eats up two of your hits and two rearguards.

I know you might be thinking 'meh I don't get to hit the vanguard AAAAND wipe out four units?' which for the cheap cost, doesn't really fit with it, that'd be WAY too easy and destroy many a deck without too much fuss. But on the plus side, you can 'pick' which four units you fight, meaning you could swing at the vg for two out of four hits, then blast their backrow with the remaining two OR use three of your hits for their backrow and then the fourth to wipe out a frontrow rearguard.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: FTLol on June 27, 2014, 06:45:55 AM
Just remember, if the opponent's vanguard is in legion, he counts as 'two' targets, so when this guy swings, he has two choices. The first is not attacking the vg and instead attacking four rearguards, or swinging at the vanguard and only being able to attack two rg's.

Pretty sure it doesn't work like that. I read somewhere that the mate cannot be attacked, so even if your opponent's vanguard is in legion, you'll just attack the vanguard, not the mate. So if you choose to attack the vanguard, you can still attack three more rearguards. Also, in the anime, it clearly shows it destroys three RG while also attacking the VG.

Btw here: http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Legion#Frequently_Asked_Question its in point 7. Dunno where the wikia got this from, but i'm pretty sure they can be trusted.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Doctor Who on June 27, 2014, 06:57:46 AM
Actually, Sandy this is quite debatable until Bushi releases an official rulling about this. You choose four units. As Bushi said, the main vanguard remains the grade 3. So I may choose to attack the grade 3 unit and leave alone the grade 2 unit.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on June 27, 2014, 09:51:58 AM
You don't attack the grade 2 unit at all.

For a vanguard that is in Legion, the attack target is always the grade 3, so in the case of Knuckle Buster it would be the grade 3 vanguard + 3 rear-guards for the total 4 units you're allowed to hit.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ヤタ on June 27, 2014, 01:30:46 PM
It is a ruling that a unit cannot attack the mate, and I'm sure that applies here.
Now, CEO Yggdrasil crossride when? //shot
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Magus TSS on June 27, 2014, 07:03:48 PM
Now, CEO Yggdrasil crossride when? //shot
NEVER!!! Yaggdrasil already so good. x.x

Oh...  My...  God...  This...  IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!!!  I can't wait for this to be added, so that I may destroy, or should I say bust, all in my path with the power of the might Big Bang Knuckle!!!  These new, improved abilities just take Big Bang Knuckle to a whole new level, especially being able to do it multiple turns in a row, since I had expected it to only be during the turn it Legioned.  This is a very nice turn of events, and I certainly will be maining this for a time.
Retire 5 total with the current starter. For counterblast 3 and a persona from up to 7 possible cards. Really Really good.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on June 28, 2014, 01:07:55 AM
I really don't know how to respond to this...

But it's not good...

( I'm not having fun. I'm really not having fun.)

( I wonder how many people will be using this deck anyways...
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on June 30, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
Today's preview:

(http://i.imgur.com/XuQT7hj.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/tDNg0OL.jpg)

Blue Storm Marine General, Starrus
G2/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if your vanguard is in Legion, and it is the first battle of that turn, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle, and at the end of that battle, choose one other rear-guard in the same column as this unit, and exchange positions with this unit. (The state of the cards does not change.)
"The honor of being the advance guard, leave it to the me!"

Blue Storm Wave Dragon, Tetra-burst Dragon
G3/Aqua Force/Tear Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Blue Storm Marine General, Starrus"
AUTO [V]: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, and it is the fourth battle of that turn or more, you may pay the cost. If you do, this unit gets Power +5000/Critical +1 until end that battle.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.
"The raging storm of the double cannons, Dual Stormdriver!"
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on June 30, 2014, 05:53:32 PM
Today's preview:

(http://i.imgur.com/XuQT7hj.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/tDNg0OL.jpg)

Blue Storm Marine General, Starrus
G2/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if your vanguard is in Legion, and it is the first battle of that turn, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle, and at the end of that battle, choose one other rear-guard in the same column as this unit, and exchange positions with this unit. (The state of the cards does not change.)
"The honor of being the advance guard, leave it to the me!"

Blue Storm Wave Dragon, Tetra-burst Dragon
G3/Aqua Force/Tear Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Blue Storm Marine General, Starrus"
AUTO [V]: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, and it is the fourth battle of that turn or more, you may pay the cost. If you do, this unit gets Power +5000/Critical +1 until end that battle.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.
"The raging storm of the double cannons, Dual Stormdriver!"
Love that g2 mate's skill. No need for Assault Wheel now lol. and yet another 12k atker for aqua force
Blue Storm Marine General, Starrus/ Tidal Assault column = enables 4th atk for vg leaving a full column standing after u use legion skill. Too good.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 01, 2014, 10:39:03 AM
New Seeker Legion:

(http://i.imgur.com/hcfow6S.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/JUXSbjY.jpg)

High Spirits Seeker, Celyn
G2/Royal Paladin/Human/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit is placed on R, if your vanguard is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose one of your other units, that unit and this unit get Power +4000 until end of turn.
"Riders, onwards, and you shall stand with high spirits!"

Seeker, Purgation Breath Dragon
G3/Royal Paladin/Cosmo Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "High Spirits Seeker, Celyn"
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 2-card with "Seeker" in its card name] If this unit is in Legion, search your deck for up to one card with "Seeker" in its card name, call it to R, and shuffle your deck. Then, if the number of units you have is more than your opponent's, choose a card from your damage zone, and turn it face up. This ability cannot be used for the rest of that turn.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.
"In the Sanctuary, there exists dragons that purge trespassers."
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 01, 2014, 10:51:33 PM
Another Aqua Force preview:

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140702022501/cardfight/images/a/a7/BT17-102-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Blue Storm Cadet, Anos
G0/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
ACT [R]: [Put this unit into your soul] Choose your vanguard, until end of turn it gets "AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, and it is the fourth battle of the turn or more, you may pay the cost. If you do, draw a card, choose one of your opponent's rear-guards, and retire it.".
"Someday, he will become a great storm."

Every Aqua Force Legion can be Maelstrom. :P
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ninja Master Z on July 02, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
Man... when are the megacolony getting some love *pout*
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 02, 2014, 07:03:30 PM
Granblue Quintet Wall spoiled from Monthly Bushiroad's twitter:

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140702030455/cardfight/images/c/c2/ReefBanshee.png)

Reef Banshee
G1/Granblue/Ghost/Power 6000/Shield 0
CONT: Sentinel
AUTO: [Counter Blast 1] When this is placed on G from your hand, you may pay the cost. If you do, call five cards from the top of your deck to G as Rest.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 02, 2014, 07:06:29 PM
Another Aqua Force preview:

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140702022501/cardfight/images/a/a7/BT17-102-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Blue Storm Cadet, Anos
G0/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
ACT [R]: [Put this unit into your soul] Choose your vanguard, until end of turn it gets "AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, and it is the fourth battle of the turn or more, you may pay the cost. If you do, draw a card, choose one of your opponent's rear-guards, and retire it.".
"Someday, he will become a great storm."

Every Aqua Force Legion can be Maelstrom. :P

Well that's disappointing. Was hoping that starter would be an Auto skill if the attack hit on 4th. 
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lance Korilum on July 02, 2014, 08:14:20 PM


Blue Storm Cadet, Anos
G0/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
ACT [R]: [Put this unit into your soul] Choose your vanguard, until end of turn it gets "AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, and it is the fourth battle of the turn or more, you may pay the cost. If you do, draw a card, choose one of your opponent's rear-guards, and retire it.".
"Someday, he will become a great storm."

Every Aqua Force Legion can be Maelstrom. :P

Well that's disappointing. Was hoping that starter would be an Auto skill if the attack hit on 4th.

Actually, this is better :/  It's automatic, so it can kill an interceptor if you want it to, and you don't need to hit for the draw.  It's like a mini Demetrius :3
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 02, 2014, 11:58:22 PM
New Liberator triggers:

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140703020502/cardfight/images/e/e1/BT17-055-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140703020502/cardfight/images/9/95/BT17-056-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Steel Blade Liberator, Alwira
G0/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 5000/Shield 10000/Critical Trigger

Catchgal Liberator
G0/Gold Paladin/High Beast/Power 4000/Shield 10000/Stand Trigger
AUTO: [Put this unit on the bottom of your deck] When this unit is placed on R from your deck, you may pay the cost. If you do, look at three cards from the top of your deck, search for up to one card other than a card named "Catchgal Liberator", call it to an open R, and shuffle your deck.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lance Korilum on July 03, 2014, 12:58:53 AM
New Liberator triggers:

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140703020502/cardfight/images/e/e1/BT17-055-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140703020502/cardfight/images/9/95/BT17-056-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Steel Blade Liberator, Alwira
G0/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 5000/Shield 10000/Critical Trigger

Catchgal Liberator
G0/Gold Paladin/High Beast/Power 4000/Shield 10000/Stand Trigger
AUTO: [Put this unit on the bottom of your deck] When this unit is placed on R from your deck, you may pay the cost. If you do, look at three cards from the top of your deck, search for up to one card other than a card named "Catchgal Liberator", call it to an open R, and shuffle your deck.

Finally, a third Liberator crit.  No longer must I look at Strike Liberator's art.  Also, holy crap a useful Stand in GP?  I am quite interested in using this....  It even recycles itself!  And doesn't have a CB cost associated with it! 
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 03, 2014, 02:47:44 PM
New Liberator triggers:

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140703020502/cardfight/images/e/e1/BT17-055-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140703020502/cardfight/images/9/95/BT17-056-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Steel Blade Liberator, Alwira
G0/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 5000/Shield 10000/Critical Trigger

Catchgal Liberator
G0/Gold Paladin/High Beast/Power 4000/Shield 10000/Stand Trigger
AUTO: [Put this unit on the bottom of your deck] When this unit is placed on R from your deck, you may pay the cost. If you do, look at three cards from the top of your deck, search for up to one card other than a card named "Catchgal Liberator", call it to an open R, and shuffle your deck.

Finally, a third Liberator crit.  No longer must I look at Strike Liberator's art.  Also, holy crap a useful Stand in GP?  I am quite interested in using this....  It even recycles itself!  And doesn't have a CB cost associated with it!

I think u meant a useful stand in Liberator's since Loonbau wasn't a bad stand trigger. (Back in the day Lmfao)  Then again it was always a luck based superior call but still found it useful.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 05, 2014, 11:17:21 AM
Yesterday's preview:

(http://i.imgur.com/tHTN0Rz.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/XufKPgF.jpg)

Pirate Belle, Pinot Blanc
G2/Granblue/Vampire/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [Drop zone]: [CB1] When your vanguard performs Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, call this card to R.
"Before thinking of an encounter, wipe out all your enemies across the seas first!"

Young Pirate Noble, Pinot Noir
G3/Granblue/Vampire/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Pirate Belle, Pinot Blanc"
AUTO [V]: [Put three cards from the top of your deck into the drop zone] When this unit performs Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose one card from your drop zone, and call it to R.
AUTO [V]: [Choose one of your rear-guards, and retire it] When this unit attacks a vanguard, you may pay the cost. If you do, this unit gets Power +5000 until end of that battle.
"It's a beautiful night. Seems like I will have a beautiful encounter tonight."

____________

Monthly Bushiroad Spoilers

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859242541.jpg)(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859242491.jpg)

Purgatory Dragon, Menace Laser Dragon
G2/Kagero/Flame Dragon/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO: [CB1] When this unit is placed on R, if you have a vanguard with "Purgatory" in its card name, you may the cost. If you do, choose one of your opponent's rear-guards in the same column as this unit, and retire it.

Purgatory Dragon, Pain Laser Dragon
G3/Kagero/Flame Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Purgatory Dragon, Menace Laser Dragon"
AUTO [V]: [CB1] When this unit performs Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose one of your opponent's rear-guards, and retire all units in the same column as that rear-guard.
AUTO [V]: [SB1] When this unit attacks a vanguard, you may pay the cost. If you do, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859242588.jpg)

Purgatory Fighter, Mareisei
G1/Kagero/Dragonman/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: During your main phase, when an opponent's rear-guard in the same column as this unit is put into the drop zone, this units gets Power +3000 until end of turn.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859242678.jpg)

Purgatory Dragon, Tinder Spear Dracokid
G0/Kagero/Flame Dragon/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
AUTO [R]: [CB1] When an attack hits a vanguard during the battle that this unit boosted, if your vanguard is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, retire all of your opponent's rear-guards that are in the same column as this card, then put this unit into your soul.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859243647.jpg)

Fired Up Brawler, Koukin
G2/Narukami/Human/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [V/R]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if your opponent has no rear-guards in the front row, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

(http://i.imgur.com/LXBpkPe.png)

Brawler, Bolt Knuckle Dracokid
G0/Narukami/Thunder Dragon/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
AUTO [R]: When this unit boosts, if your opponent has no rear-guards in the back row, the boosted unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859245072.jpg)

Evening Rain Liberator, Trahern
G2/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO: When this unit is placed on R from your deck, if your vanguard is in Legion, choose up to two of your other units, and those units get Power +3000 until end of turn.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859245312.jpg)

Double Axe Liberator, Bassia
G1/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO: When this unit is placed on R from your deck, if your vanguard is in Legion, this unit gets Power +5000 until end of turn.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859245002.jpg)

Genius Liberator, Woltimer
G0/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
AUTO [R]: When this unit boosts, if you have 4 or more rear-guards with "Liberator" in their card names, the boosted unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/859246506.jpg)

A bunch of "SECRET" Legions including two we already know (ugh). From the image, you can see the Legion for Trahern and Astro Reaper, as well as one for Tachikaze.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 05, 2014, 06:40:24 PM


lol So much Rearguard hate with these new units.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on July 05, 2014, 08:28:13 PM
I would think so considering it's Kagero. Why did you have to quote that whole entire section instead of just taking the effects? Lol.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 05, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
I would think so considering it's Kagero. Why did you have to quote that whole entire section instead of just taking the effects? Lol.
Yeah true didn't think about that lol but nah Kagero has been focusing more on "Standing Vanguards" etc. Kagero hardly retires not even as close as Narukami. So it's good to see more of the "retiring" in it. Unless u consider Rebirth,etc to be "retiring" lol. then that's kinda funny. ya Dauntless retires (Dauntless reverse) and others but it doesnt have that uhh "RG hate tactics" with most kagero decks. at least when u compare it to narukami it doesnt. aka Tempest, brawlers, etc. have field wiping tactics lol.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 06, 2014, 10:50:30 PM
Link Joker preview. Radon's Legion mate finally revealed!

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140707020615/cardfight/images/b/b9/TD17-006_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140707020614/cardfight/images/4/42/BT17-016-RR_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Ionized Star-vader, Hafnium
G3/Link Joker/Cyberoid/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Unrivaled Star-vader, Radon"
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, for each of your opponent's locked cards, choose one different unit, and those units get Power +5000 until end of turn.
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 2]  Choose one of your opponent's rear-guards in the back row, and lock it.

Such beatdowns.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 07, 2014, 07:22:11 AM
o wow that legion's op lol.

use the g2 relocker and Palldium repeatedly giving out 5k every turn.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: T-QK Kai on July 07, 2014, 11:07:29 PM
Link Joker preview. Radon's Legion mate finally revealed!

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140707020615/cardfight/images/b/b9/TD17-006_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140707020614/cardfight/images/4/42/BT17-016-RR_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Ionized Star-vader, Hafnium
G3/Link Joker/Cyberoid/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Unrivaled Star-vader, Radon"
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, for each of your opponent's locked cards, choose one different unit, and those units get Power +5000 until end of turn.
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 2]  Choose one of your opponent's rear-guards in the back row, and lock it.

Such beatdowns.
man if this link joker unit is this much op then what about the unit that aichi uses O_O SO OP
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 08, 2014, 10:49:42 PM
Tachikaze preview this time :D:

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140709020502/cardfight/images/e/e8/BT17-031-R_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140709020502/cardfight/images/c/c7/BT17-029-R_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Ancient Dragon, Night Armor
G2/Tachikaze/Dinodragon/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: [Choose one of your other rear-guards with "Ancient Dragon" in its card name, and retire it] When this unit attacks a vanguard, if your vanguard is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, until end of that battle, this unit gets Power +5000 and "AUTO: [R]: When this unit's attack hits, choose a card from your damage zone, and turn it face up.".

Ancient Dragon, Magma Armor
G3/Tachikaze/Dinodragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Ancient Dragon, Night Armor"
AUTO [V]: [Counter Blast 1 & Soul Blast 1] During your battle phase, when your rear-guard is put into the drop zone, if this unit is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, call that card to an open R.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

The first 11k Rare Legion. :o

Pretty sweet for its rarity too.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Umer~ on July 09, 2014, 02:46:35 AM
nice ancient dragons looking so pwerful :)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: BlueDragonz on July 09, 2014, 03:20:36 AM
Tachikaze preview this time :D:

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140709020502/cardfight/images/e/e8/BT17-031-R_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140709020502/cardfight/images/c/c7/BT17-029-R_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Ancient Dragon, Night Armor
G2/Tachikaze/Dinodragon/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: [Choose one of your other rear-guards with "Ancient Dragon" in its card name, and retire it] When this unit attacks a vanguard, if your vanguard is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, until end of that battle, this unit gets Power +5000 and "AUTO: [R]: When this unit's attack hits, choose a card from your damage zone, and turn it face up.".

Ancient Dragon, Magma Armor
G3/Tachikaze/Dinodragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Ancient Dragon, Night Armor"
AUTO [V]: [Counter Blast 1 & Soul Blast 1] During your battle phase, when your rear-guard is put into the drop zone, if this unit is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, call that card to an open R.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

The first 11k Rare Legion. :o

Pretty sweet for its rarity too.
FINALLY. Now I can beat people with my dinos MWAHAHA!

Anyway, Finally have a reason to make Tachikaze a main clan that I will be using :D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Umer~ on July 09, 2014, 12:02:49 PM
on ice area :)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: ヤタ on July 10, 2014, 10:49:15 AM
wow
the last like
10 posts
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Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 10, 2014, 01:46:21 PM
Today's preview is brought to you by Glendios ;D:

(http://i.imgur.com/L10Ulot.jpg)

Star-vader, Bolt Line
G1/Link Joker/Cyber Fairy/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO: [R]: When an attack hits a vanguard during the battle that this unit boosted, choose one of your opponent's locked cards, and that card cannot be unlocked during your opponent's next end phase.
"Do not move. Until we allow you to......"

Lockin' you all day erryday~
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK]BlueDragonz on July 11, 2014, 03:48:54 AM
Today's preview is brought to you by Glendios ;D:

(http://i.imgur.com/L10Ulot.jpg)

Star-vader, Bolt Line
G1/Link Joker/Cyber Fairy/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO: [R]: When an attack hits a vanguard during the battle that this unit boosted, choose one of your opponent's locked cards, and that card cannot be unlocked during your opponent's next end phase.
"Do not move. Until we allow you to......"

Lockin' you all day erryday~
that card is strong and if you have them to boost your rgs the opponent will be forced to guard decreasing his hand so that he cant guard the vg attack maybe? Not too good with Link Joker
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: penguin90 on July 11, 2014, 04:52:35 AM
did i read that right
did someone just say bolt line wasnt good for link joker
bolt line is amazing for link joker and works well with hafnium since you can force your opponent to choose between a prolonged lock or wasting their hand
this is a really nice pressure unit and in my opinion something link joker has needed for while-some serious pressure that usnt nebulas power plays
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 11, 2014, 05:42:45 AM
Star-vader, Bolt Line
G1/Link Joker/Cyber Fairy/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO: [R]: When an attack hits a vanguard during the battle that this unit boosted, choose one of your opponent's locked cards, and that card cannot be unlocked during your opponent's next end phase.
"Do not move. Until we allow you to......"
Having that as a VG booster while having Palladium's on backrow RG circle's geeze lol. Talk about making that new Link Joker legion giving out 5k for the entire CF.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK]BlueDragonz on July 11, 2014, 07:30:36 AM
did i read that right
did someone just say bolt line wasnt good for link joker
bolt line is amazing for link joker and works well with hafnium since you can force your opponent to choose between a prolonged lock or wasting their hand
this is a really nice pressure unit and in my opinion something link joker has needed for while-some serious pressure that usnt nebulas power plays
No. I said I wasn't good with Link Joker lol
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Hideyoshi on July 11, 2014, 07:59:21 AM
this card is a (y) for nebula lord with power push and lock nebula lord became even better <3
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK]BlueDragonz on July 11, 2014, 08:11:38 AM
Link Joker is SO powerful :o not letting your opponents use their rgs are a serious disadvantage
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Hideyoshi on July 11, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
and with the deletors support.. -shivers-
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [MK]BlueDragonz on July 11, 2014, 08:55:29 AM
Yup. And it only has a small amount of cards too. If it has the same amount of cards as Kagero or Royal Paladin I wonder how strong it would be? Scary *shivers*
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 11, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
Phallon's mate revealed:

(http://i.imgur.com/18rWyFF.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/iF2nog1.jpg)

Liberator of Trails, Asclepio
G3/Gold Paladin/Giant/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Liberator of Royalty, Phallon"
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 2-card with "Liberator" in its card name] If this unit is in Legion, and the number of other vanguard and/or rear-guards you have with "Liberator" in its card name is four or more, this unit gets Power +5000/Critical +1 until end of turn.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.
"If I walk the royal road, it will become the path to the future for those behind us."
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Hideyoshi on July 11, 2014, 06:17:45 PM
Phallon's mate revealed:

(http://i.imgur.com/18rWyFF.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/iF2nog1.jpg)

Liberator of Trails, Asclepio
G3/Gold Paladin/Giant/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Liberator of Royalty, Phallon"
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 2-card with "Liberator" in its card name] If this unit is in Legion, and the number of other vanguard and/or rear-guards you have with "Liberator" in its card name is four or more, this unit gets Power +5000/Critical +1 until end of turn.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.
"If I walk the royal road, it will become the path to the future for those behind us."
GAWD... the art is nice but the skill... least it got printed as RR and not the seeker copy RRR tsk
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 12, 2014, 02:33:22 PM
Dr. O teased the image of another Tachikaze Legion.

(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/BsVb67lCAAEk539.jpg)
Ancient Dragon, Tyrannobite + Ancient Dragon, Tyrannoquake

What is readable of Tyrannoquake's Legion ability:
Quote
AUTO [V]: During your battle phase, your __________ with the same name as a unit on your V

The Legion will be revealed at Fighter's Road Kanazawa, which is later today in Japan. Stay tuned! :D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 12, 2014, 10:19:11 PM
TA-DAAAAAAH ;D:

(http://imgur.com/23hMs6r.png)(http://imgur.com/DN1MBUh.png)

Ancient Dragon, Tyrannobite
G2/Tachikaze/Dinodragon/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit is put into the drop zone from R, if you have a vanguard with "Ancient Dragon" in its card name, you may pay the cost. If you do, call this card to R.

G2 Iguanogorg OMG!

Ancient Dragon, Tyrannoquake
G3/Tachikaze/Dinodragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Ancient Dragon, Tyrannobite"
AUTO [V]: During your battle phase, when your rear-guard with the same name as a unit on your V is put into the drop zone, if this unit is in Legion, this unit gets Power +5000/Critical +1 until end of turn. This ability cannot be used for the rest of that turn.
AUTO [V]: [Choose one of your rear-guards, and retire it] When this unit attacks a vanguard, you may pay the cost. If you do, this unit gets Power +5000 until end of that battle.

So with the mate this guy is 30k +1 Crit for CB1 at minimum every turn? Sure beats Tyrannolegend's retire 3 for 21k +1 Crit to me! :D

In addition, the Blazing Perdition commercial also spoiled a little something for Link Joker fans (there are Link Joker fans here right? :'():

(http://i.imgur.com/LNU5Isl.png)

Imaginary Plane Dragon's mate! He looks pretty damn cool. :D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on July 12, 2014, 11:01:58 PM
I'll be over here, crying about the loss of Jewel Knights. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/crying2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862497)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Skyzlimitz on July 12, 2014, 11:46:32 PM
 :'( im so happy finally my tachis are getting the respect they deserve its a proud day for all tachikaze players. btw that art is sick!
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lance Korilum on July 12, 2014, 11:48:51 PM
I'll be over here, crying about the loss of Jewel Knights. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/crying2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862497)

.....  And...  I'll go wonder...  Why LJ gets 3 - 4 Legions in one set after they got a TD....  While the clans that actually effing need it get 1 - 2....  Especially since Royal Paladin only got 2 Legions in their previous set, one of which got cloned here.  It's just not cool, since Link Joker was already a really good clan before this, and will only get better after.  They've gotten a unit that locks for free, a unit that Omega Locks one unit on-hit when boosting, a Legion that does the same thing as their Breakride, a Legion that makes RG columns hit insane numbers, and more on the way!  Granted, Tachikaze got some really good Legions (Mainly their R one)...  But Granblue's is at TD Ace level....  And Aqua Force's Main Legion is a disappointment...  And the lack of any Jewel Knight support...  This set has more disappointment than not so far....
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 12, 2014, 11:52:29 PM
I'll be over here, crying about the loss of Jewel Knights. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/crying2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862497)

There's still the Summer Festival reveal to look forward to for Jewel Knights. ^^;

----

The anime spoiled a bunch of stuff for the Purgatory group. Putting the images in spoiler, because they're big:

Spoiler
(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/107.jpg)
(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/108.jpg)
(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/109.jpg)

Purgatory Sentinel confirmed.

The G1 is presumed to gain +3k when a rear-guard is retired in the same column as it, and the G3 retires a unit in the same column as it when the vanguard checks a card with the same name as a unit on V. Yes it's a G3 rear-guard ability. Those apparently still exist.

There was also the 4k starter shown that presumably isn't of the "Purgatory" group if the subs aren't lying again. It's just the generic, when your performs Legion, the starter gets +5k until end of turn.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 12, 2014, 11:57:09 PM
I'll be over here, crying about the loss of Jewel Knights. (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/crying2-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862497)

.....  And...  I'll go wonder...  Why LJ gets 3 - 4 Legions in one set after they got a TD....  While the clans that actually effing need it get 1 - 2....  Especially since Royal Paladin only got 2 Legions in their previous set, one of which got cloned here.  It's just not cool, since Link Joker was already a really good clan before this, and will only get better after.  They've gotten a unit that locks for free, a unit that Omega Locks one unit on-hit when boosting, a Legion that does the same thing as their Breakride, a Legion that makes RG columns hit insane numbers, and more on the way!  Granted, Tachikaze got some really good Legions (Mainly their R one)...  But Granblue's is at TD Ace level....  And Aqua Force's Main Legion is a disappointment...  And the lack of any Jewel Knight support...  This set has more disappointment than not so far....

Hey don't single out Link Joker!

Gold Paladins are getting 4 Legions between this set and the Trial Deck as well! They're also in the Movie Booster alongside Link Joker, Royal Paladin, and Kagero.

Granted Link Joker's also getting another Trial Deck based off the movie's Deletors, but that Trial Deck is likely to be an introduction to next season with the "Delete" mechanic it's debuting.

Details are still unknown.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lance Korilum on July 12, 2014, 11:58:52 PM


The anime spoiled a bunch of stuff for the Purgatory group. Putting the images in spoiler, because they're big:

Spoiler
(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/107.jpg)
(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/108.jpg)
(http://blog-imgs-66.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/109.jpg)

Purgatory Sentinel confirmed.

The G1 is presumed to gain +3k when a rear-guard is retired in the same column as it, and the G3 retires a unit in the same column as it when the vanguard checks a card with the same name as a unit on V. Yes it's a G3 rear-guard ability. Those apparently still exist.


Are you sure you don't mean the G2?  We already have a G1 with that exact ability, so I don't think they'll make another unless it's a non-Purgatory/Perdition version.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 13, 2014, 12:12:56 AM
Are you sure you don't mean the G2?  We already have a G1 with that exact ability, so I don't think they'll make another unless it's a non-Purgatory/Perdition version.

Yup.

The G2 pictured is the 10k vanilla.

The card in question is called "Purgatory Dragon, Heat Wing Dragon", which is the G3 pictured.

It's possible that it's an error on their part, but for now that's what the card is.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lance Korilum on July 13, 2014, 12:15:09 AM
Are you sure you don't mean the G2?  We already have a G1 with that exact ability, so I don't think they'll make another unless it's a non-Purgatory/Perdition version.

Yup.

The G2 pictured is the 10k vanilla.

The card in question is called "Purgatory Dragon, Heat Wing Dragon", which is the G3 pictured.

It's possible that it's an error on their part, but for now that's what the card is.

I'm not talking about the G3, I'm talking about the G1 that gains +3k when a RG in the same column is retired.  I know about Heat Wing, I saw the episode.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 13, 2014, 12:30:49 AM
Hmm....I'll have to rewatch to be sure, but I don't recall any other G2 besides Menace Laser and the vanilla.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: penguin90 on July 13, 2014, 04:20:29 AM
i dont understand why people say magmarmour is any good
i have tested him and his best combo is a cross retire which results in multiple attacks until you run out of resources
its inefficient and outclassed by basically every other legion i dont understand how anyone could consider it "good"
tyrannoquake however i am impressed with
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Skyzlimitz on July 13, 2014, 01:32:32 PM
i dont understand why people say magmarmour is any good
i have tested him and his best combo is a cross retire which results in multiple attacks until you run out of resources
its inefficient and outclassed by basically every other legion i dont understand how anyone could consider it "good"
tyrannoquake however i am impressed with
Magmarmor wasn't made to finish he's made to create pressure and finish with tyrannoquake at least that's how I see it.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: penguin90 on July 13, 2014, 05:43:36 PM
tyrannoquake shouldnt be a finisher it should be what you sit on mid game to kill your opponent's hand through his high powered pressure
IMO magma should just be that half decent backup VG thats meh if you get it but better than nothing
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 13, 2014, 05:52:31 PM
tyrannoquake shouldnt be a finisher it should be what you sit on mid game to kill your opponent's hand through his high powered pressure
IMO magma should just be that half decent backup VG thats meh if you get it but better than nothing
Imo
Ya, Ancient Dragon, Tyrannoquake is like using Cormac with Revengers good for early game pressure since that simple cost to gain a crit which can force hand letting Phantom Blaster Abyss be the finisher so I agree that
Ancient Dragon, Tyrannoquake
is better off being a early/mid game Legion then letting Ancient Dragon, Magmarmor be the finisher plus it soul blasts units allowing u too soul blast everything (aka the Ancient Dragon, Tyrannoquake and Ancient Dragon, Tyrannobite that's in soul, letting you be able to Legion repeatedly )


Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Sandy on July 13, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Thank you Sui. Though I have to wonder, besides LJ and GP. Okay so in the anime, currently, no one is using Seekers right? So... why are they getting support? I mean there's two theories, that Aichi is going to use Seekers which is plausible. The other theory is that he's using LJ, I mean that too is plausible. Now that they've switched a few people's clans (Kourin whhyyyyy?!?!?) I have no idea on what their thought processes are (cept money money money lol).

That's true, I have the summer festival to look towards. Here's hoping we all get some good legions for our clans/archetypes!...and Jewel Knights. :D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 13, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
Not everything supported has to be shown in the anime y'know.

They probably wanted to throw Seekers a bone like they did with Brawlers, but obviously showcased the Brawlers since it's a crossride of Naoki's new ace.

Seekers and Brawlers being the first Legion decks they promoted, it makes sense for them to keep supporting them. Though it doesn't look like they'll be getting much outside of Purgation Breath Dragon from RRRs/RRs, so Seeker players will have to look forward to the Rares and Commons.

Speaking of which, there's no telling if the Royal Paladin LB4 enabler, assuming each clan gets one this set, will be from a specific group. Since we know that the majority of LB4 units in Royal Paladins are Jewel Knights, it makes sense for the enabler to have Jewel Knight in the name.

We'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 14, 2014, 10:47:53 PM
Another Granblue preview :D:

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140715022201/cardfight/images/b/b8/BT17-092-C_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Boatswain, Arman
G1/Granblue/Vampire/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO: When this unit is placed on R from your drop zone, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of turn.

A G1 clone of this guy:

(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140430000809/cardfight/images/thumb/8/87/BT13-085EN-C.png/280px-BT13-085EN-C.png)

Call them both with Nightmist into the same column and that's 32k Power in one column. Yowza!
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on July 17, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
Self-possessed Seeker, Lucius

[AUTO]: Forerunner (When a unit of the same clan rides this unit, you may call this unit to (RC))
[AUTO](RC): When this unit boosts, if the number of vanguards and/or rear-guards you have with "Seeker" in its card name in the front row is three or more, the boosted unit gets [Power]+3000 until end of that battle.

i get a Card with my Name yay :D i can't be happier right now
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on July 18, 2014, 12:16:22 PM
I don't know if this belongs here, but might as well post it?

(http://i59.tinypic.com/2nrhgmw.jpg)

Dream Team, Medley
G3 / POWER: 11000 / GUARD: 0
[Activate](V):<Legion20000>Dream Team, Dios

[Auto](V): When your unit gets return from the RG circle back to your hand and this unit is in Legion, this unit gets POWER +5000 during this turn.

[Activate](V):{CB1, SB1} Select 1 of your RG, return it back to hand. This skill cannot be activated again during this turn.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2psg045.jpg)
Dream Team, Dios
G2 / POWER: 9000 / GUARD: 5000
[AUto]: When this unit gets returned from the RG circle back to your hand and your VG is in Legion, SC1, select 1 card in your damage zone and flip it face up.

(http://i58.tinypic.com/de1so6.jpg)

Eternal Memory, Laurence
G2 / POWER: 8000 / GUARD: 5000
[Auto](R): When this unit's attack hits a VG and your VG is in Legion, draw 1.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/2uqnd6r.jpg)
Mirage sign Urmia
G1 / POWER: 6000 / GUARD: 5000
[Auto](R): When this unit boost a VG and your VG is in Legion, the boosted unit will get POWER+4000 during this battle.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 21, 2014, 05:29:22 PM
It'd be more appropriate to post that in this thread. Along with the alternate arts of Alk, Coral, Pacifica, Raindear, and Riviere :):

http://cardfight-wiki.ru/areafor/index.php/topic,352.0.html
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 24, 2014, 11:46:34 PM
Previews are starting again. :D

Today's preview is one of the remaining Legions for Link Joker:

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140725021627/cardfight/images/6/67/Osmium_%26_Imaginary_Plane_Dragon.png)

Flash Gun Star-vader, Osmium
G2/Link Joker/Cyberoid/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When this unit's attack hits a vanguard, choose one of your opponent's locked cards, and that card cannot be unlocked during your opponent's next end phase.

Yikes, another one of these. Pair him up with Bolt Line or spread them out and you got "Omega Lock" pressure coming from the front and from the back. :o

Star-vader, Imaginary Plane Dragon
G3/Link Joker/Cyber Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Flash Gun Star-vader, Osmium"
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 2] If this unit is in Legion, choose up to one of your opponent's rear-guards for each of your units with "Star-vader" in its card name in the center column, and lock it.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, this unit gets Power +2000 until end of that battle.

*spit takes*

Welp. That's about the easiest triangle lock to date. Even if it doesn't triangle lock, it's still an LJ vanguard that can lock 2 rear-guards very easily without having to ride Garnet Star. Quite a strong card.

Now all that's left is Astro Reaper's mate and we'll know all the Link Joker Legions in BT17. :)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Beryl on July 25, 2014, 01:40:05 AM
Well, there's the solution to the problem I was having with Garnet Star. Thank you, based Imaginary Plane Dragon. <3
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on July 25, 2014, 07:18:26 AM
that skill can be used twice per turn it seems <.<
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 25, 2014, 08:59:47 PM
That is by far the best LJ legion/skill ever lol. Definitely gonna go back to maining Link Joker when that Legion comes out and on CFA.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on July 25, 2014, 11:51:20 PM
That is by far the best LJ legion/skill ever lol. Definitely gonna go back to maining Link Joker when that Legion comes out and on CFA.

That sounds so bandwagon. Lol

How do I deal with this...

Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 26, 2014, 06:58:58 PM
That is by far the best LJ legion/skill ever lol. Definitely gonna go back to maining Link Joker when that Legion comes out and on CFA.

That sounds so bandwagon. Lol

How do I deal with this...



Well I'm surprised they haven't made any unlocking units But clans like Bermuda, etc usually can avoid getting locked pretty easily lol aka (Bounce all your rear guards back to hand lol )
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on July 26, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
The only clans that have an unlocking unit is sadly Gold Paladins and Genesis.

Another way to counter link joker is just to play Imperial Daughter. <3
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 26, 2014, 07:15:59 PM
The only clans that have an unlocking unit is sadly Gold Paladins and Genesis.

Another way to counter link joker is just to play Imperial Daughter. <3

Yeah that's true. But also decks like Yggdrasill , etc that is really Vanguard focused can win the cardfight without having rgs lol. just call a few Shiny Angel to backrow or w/e lol and u should be set to win.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Beryl on July 26, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
The only clans that have an unlocking unit is sadly Gold Paladins and Genesis.

Another way to counter link joker is just to play Imperial Daughter. <3

But there are unlockers in RoPala and Murakumo. And a couple other clans, iirc. So that's not really true. :v

The real way to counter Link Joker is to simply have a self-sufficient Vanguard. There's actually a lot of those in this metagame.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 26, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
The only clans that have an unlocking unit is sadly Gold Paladins and Genesis.

Another way to counter link joker is just to play Imperial Daughter. <3

But there are unlockers in RoPala and Murakumo. And a couple other clans, iirc. So that's not really true. :v

The real way to counter Link Joker is to simply have a self-sufficient Vanguard. There's actually a lot of those in this metagame.

100% agreed^
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on July 27, 2014, 01:37:51 PM
I didn't know they had unlocking units. You learn something new everyday.

It still sucks for those clans that rely on the rearguards like Bermuda and etc.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Beryl on July 28, 2014, 12:43:35 AM
I didn't know they had unlocking units. You learn something new everyday.

It still sucks for those clans that rely on the rearguards like Bermuda and etc.

Well, yeah, that is sort of the biggest issue right now. Being forced to use a self-sufficient and restanding Vangaurd isn't that reasonable for a lot of clans at the moment, even with legion, so Imaginary Plane's going to throw a lot of thorns into people's sides.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 29, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
Long time coming, but Prominence Core is finally revealed :):

(http://i.imgur.com/90OqAIb.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/nGHRRN9.jpg)

Liberator of the Oath, Aglovale
G2/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit is placed on R, if you have a vanguard with "Liberator" in its card name, you may pay the cost. If you do, look at three cards from the top of your deck, search for up to one card with "Liberator" in its card name, call it to an open R, and put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order.
"The oath of the knight. For the day when the people are liberated from suffering."

Bluish Flame Liberator, Prominence Core
G3/Gold Paladin/Cosmo Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Liberator of the Oath, Aglovale"
AUTO [V]: When your unit with the same name as a unit in your V is placed on R from your deck, if this unit is in Legion, this unit gets Power +3000/Critical +1 until end of turn.
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 1 & Choose one of your rear-guards, and retire it] Look at four cards from the top of your deck, search for up to one card with "Liberator" in its card name, call it to R, and put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order. This ability cannot be used for the rest of that turn.
"The oath of the dragon. For the day when the world is liberated from sorrow."

From what I've seen, the reception for Prominence Core has been mostly negative. If you ask me, I think it's a fine card for the new Liberators. That second ability is a real winner.

The alternate art Aglovale is Legion Rare only I'm afraid.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on July 29, 2014, 10:10:34 PM
Negative? He is just great.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 29, 2014, 10:55:08 PM
Yeah Libs weren't as pressured til now lol. Have a field of Bruno's etc along with this legion and it's ability to get crits and powering up and getting a superior call per turn makes it very good.

For once I can say Liberator's will be a threat now.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on July 29, 2014, 11:34:49 PM
And now time for the set's main attraction to finally show itself:

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140730020638/cardfight/images/b/b1/BT17-L04-LR_%28Sample%29.jpg)(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140730020638/cardfight/images/0/0c/BT17-L03-LR_%28Sample%29.jpg)

Purgatory Dragon, Whirlwind Dragon
G2/Kagero/Flame Dragon/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When this unit attacks, if you have a vanguard with "Purgatory" in its card name, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

Expected this.

Purgatory Dragon, Vortex Dragonewt
G3/Kagero/Flame Dragon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Purgatory Dragon, Whirlwind Dragon"
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 2 & Choose one card with the same name as a unit in your V from your hand, and discard it] If this unit is in Legion, choose up to two of your opponent's grade 2 or less rear-guards, and retire them. Then, if the number of cards in your opponent's damage zone is four or less, choose one of your opponent's vanguard, deal it one damage, and during that damage check, all trigger effects are nullified. This ability cannot be used for the rest of that turn.
AUTO [V]: During your main phase, when your opponent's rear-guard is put into the drop zone, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of turn.

...

Yowza. :o
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Ren «Я» on July 30, 2014, 12:30:11 AM
Oh great, lol Dragruler and Nouvelle Vague combined for a Legion.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Umer~ on July 30, 2014, 12:38:15 AM
we know skill before episode thanks  :)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on July 30, 2014, 02:24:46 AM
lol so it can deal damage and retire 2 rearguards what Kind of op skill is that since it can even negate Trigger :v. well at least only  once per turn
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on August 01, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
Some packs got opened early and a bunch of Sentinels got spoiled:

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140801125715/cardfight/images/9/9f/BT17-011.png)

Shine Formation Liberator, Eldol
"Liberator" Perfect Guard

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140801124438/cardfight/images/8/86/BT17-013.png)

Purgatory Dragon, Rampart Dragon
"Purgatory" Perfect Guard

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140801125715/cardfight/images/3/33/BT17-017.png)

Star-vader, Rejection Dragon
Link Joker Quintet Wall

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140801125716/cardfight/images/b/b5/BT17-020.png)

Blue Storm Battle Princess, Electra
"Blue Storm" Perfect Guard
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: penguin90 on August 01, 2014, 05:51:55 PM
oh yay a QW for LJ and a PG for Blue Storm
thats neat
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: N on August 01, 2014, 06:06:31 PM
I still don't get why there is another liberator PG(don't get me wrong GP is my main clan and the art is awesome )  :v too much support for a sub clan that's already good
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: [ER] Patrickzzz on August 01, 2014, 07:42:14 PM
I still don't get why there is another liberator PG(don't get me wrong GP is my main clan and the art is awesome )  :v too much support for a sub clan that's already good
agreed
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lequier on August 02, 2014, 09:45:39 AM
I still don't get why there is another liberator PG(don't get me wrong GP is my main clan and the art is awesome )  :v too much support for a sub clan that's already good

It won't affect those who play online, but it's purely so that the perfect guards are still in print so that people who are new to Liberators can pick up their sentinels easily and then play with them.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on August 02, 2014, 07:52:21 PM
Does the shiny boarder mean anything special on the Purgatory Legion?
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on August 03, 2014, 03:14:34 PM
I still don't get why there is another liberator PG(don't get me wrong GP is my main clan and the art is awesome )  :v too much support for a sub clan that's already good
duh it is easy because the reason is first the one that Lequier said and second because they wanna Show new Cards with arts in everything like Triggers or PGs after all Liberators already have 4 different Critical Trigger othersays you can make a liberator deck with 16 crits without using non-liberators ._. (even though the liberators already have a strong critical Support...). I think that makes the Gold Paladins the clan with the most criticals...
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: penguin90 on August 03, 2014, 07:12:49 PM
Does the shiny boarder mean anything special on the Purgatory Legion?
the gold border means they are legion rares- basically another rarity with a special border akin to SP (though SPs dont have the same border thing)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Mewsic on August 04, 2014, 11:52:02 AM
Oh, How pretty!


But the effect is so unreal! Sigh
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on August 04, 2014, 04:02:17 PM
Today there was a live broadcast that spoiled a number of cards from the set. Among them, we finally get to know what the remaining Granblue and Aqua Force Legion do. :D

(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/140804-0016.png)
(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/140804-0017.png)

(Witch Doctor? of the Abyss?), Necrobolt
G3/Granblue/Demon/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Dragon Undead, Ghoul Dragon"
AUTO [V]: [Counter Blast 1 & Choose one of your rear-guards, and retire it] When this unit attacks a vanguard, if this unit is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose one card from your drop zone, and call it to R.
AUTO [V]: When this unit attacks a vanguard, if you have another unit in the center column, this unit gets Power +3000 until end of that battle.

Dragon Undead, Ghoul Dragon
G2/Granblue/Skeleton/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO: When this unit is placed on R from your drop zone, until end of turn, this unit gets "AUTO [R]: When this (unit attacks a vanguard/unit's attack hits a vanguard?), choose one of your opponent's rear-guards, and retire it.".

The ability is in parenthesis, because it's not certain if it needs to hit the vanguard or just attacking it. Most likely the former.

(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/140804-0013.png)
(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/140804-0014.png)

Blue Storm Marine General, Zaharias
G3/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Blue Storm Marine General, Ianis"
AUTO [V]: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit's drive check reveals a card with the same name as a unit on V, if this unit is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose two of your rear-guards, Stand them, and they get Power +5000 until end of turn.
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 1] This unit gets Power +2000 until end of turn.

Blue Storm Marine General, Ianis
G2/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When this (unit attacks a vanguard/unit's attack hits a vanguard?), and if it is the third battle of that turn or more, draw a card.

See: Dragon Undead, Ghoul Dragon


In addition, the Limit Break 4 enablers have finally been revealed:

(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/140804-0018.png)

Jewel Knight, Sabalmy
G1/Royal Paladin/High Beast/Power 7000/Shield 5000
CONT [R]: Your vanguard's Limit Break 4 is also active if the number of cards in your damage zone is three or less.

(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/140804-0020.png)

Granblue LB4 enabler.
CONT [R]: Your vanguard's Limit Break 4 is also active if the number of cards in your damage zone is three or less.

(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/2/c/r/2critical/140804-0021.png)

Aqua Force "Blue Storm" LB4 enabler.
CONT [R]: Your vanguard's Limit Break 4 is also active if the number of cards in your damage zone is three or less.

Lastly, a few other cards from the set, courtesy of freedomduo:

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/8/4/84d36632-s.jpg)

Liberator, Lawful Trumpeter
G2/Gold Paladin/Angel/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: When your vanguard performs Legion, look at the top three cards of your deck, search for up to one card with "Liberator" in its card name, call it to R, and put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order.

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/4/3/4331c127-s.jpg)

Star-vader, Robin Knight
G0/Link Joker/Cyber Beast/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
ACT [R]: [Counter Blast 1 & Put this unit into your soul] If your vanguard is in Legion, and your opponent has a locked card, choose a rear-guard from your opponent's front row and back row, and lock them.

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/2/d/2d5d3144-s.jpg)

Pike Liberator, Marius
G3/Gold Paladin/Human/Power 10000
ACT [V]: [Counter Blast 1] If you have five or more rear-guards with different names, this unit gets Power +10000 until end of turn.

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/a/b/abb83911-s.jpg)

Purgatory Battler, Mareiko
G1/Kagero/Dragonman/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: [Soul Blast 1] During your main phase, when your opponent's rear-guard in the same column as this unit is put into the drop zone, if you have a vanguard with "Purgatory" in its card name, you may pay the cost. If you do, choose a card from your damage zone, and turn it face up.

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/4/c/4c07e0ed-s.jpg)

Ancient Dragon, Babysaurus
G0/Tachikaze/Dinodragon/Power 5000/Shield 10000
AUTO: Forerunner
AUTO: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit is put into the drop zone from R, if your vanguard is in Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, search your deck for up to one card with the same name as a unit in your V, call it to R, and shuffle your deck.

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/e/c/ec00be6a-s.jpg)

Eradicator, Egg Helm Dracokid
G1/Narukami/Thunder Dragon/Power 7000/Shield 5000
CONT [R]: Your vanguard's Limit Break 4 is also active if the number of cards in your damage zone is three or less.

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/7/4/74e521b5-s.jpg)

Blue Storm Soldier, Tempest Boarder
G1/Aqua Force/Aquaroid/Power 7000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: At the end of the battle that this unit boosted, if your vanguard is in Legion, choose two of your rear-guards, and exchange their positions. (The state of the cards does not change.)
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on August 04, 2014, 04:36:14 PM
Pardon the double post, but I forgot to mention that the next card of the day is going to reveal this Legion:

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/freedomduo/imgs/a/2/a2e19c97-s.jpg)

Can't wait. :D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Beryl on August 04, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
That Legion's the boss that Aichi's supposed to be using based on the opening, right? Excited as hell.

Robin Knight is just...good lord.

And thank god for Babysaurus. Tachis needed a way to set up their optimal field efficiently, and that sure is a way to do it.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on August 04, 2014, 11:28:53 PM
The wait is finally over, Link Joker fans!

(http://imgur.com/cnF0woC.png)(http://i.imgur.com/8VTUSPH.png)

For those who don't remember Astro Reaper:

Star-vader, Astro Reaper
G2/Link Joker/Cyber Golem/Power 9000/Shield 5000
AUTO [R]: [Soul Blast 1] When this unit's attack hits a vanguard, you may pay the cost. If you do, look at five cards from the top of your deck, search for up to one card with the same name as a unit in your V, reveal it to your opponent, put it into your hand, and put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order.

Now feast your eyes on this!

Star-vader, Dark Zodiac
G3/Link Joker/Cyber Golem/Power 11000
ACT [V]: Legion 20000 "Star-vader, Astro Reaper"
AUTO [V]: [Counter Blast 1] When this unit performs Legion, you may pay the cost. If you do, all of your opponent's locked cards do not unlock during your opponent's next end phase.
ACT [V]: [Choose a card from your hand with the same name as a unit on V, and discard it] Choose a rear-guard in your opponent's front and back row, and lock them. This ability cannot be used for the rest of that turn.

Oh my god it's so beautiful! *sniff* :'(
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Beryl on August 04, 2014, 11:33:58 PM
Was talking about this with Peng, and it's basically the card Hafnium was looking to partner up with.

A lot of people on the Wikia are thinking that the on-legion omega lock is underwhelming and I don't really get it. You can lock stuff after activating omega lock and it still counts because it doesn't specify board state. Anything locked after the skill will stay locked an extra turn.

So from there you ride Hafnium, and with the new starter, overall, for a discard and CB2, your opponent has 4 units still locked during this turn, so both your RG columns get +10k to them when Hafnium initially swings. How the hell is that underwhelming, Wikia? *shakes head*
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on August 04, 2014, 11:38:45 PM
Yeah there's a lot of potential for setup thanks to this guy keeping the cards locked for an additional turn.

And doing triangle locks for no CB (Photon!) is amazing, even if it is a Persona Blast of sorts.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Lucius on August 05, 2014, 04:23:08 AM
hmm thats not a bad Card but it bothers me that the skill only works when performing Legion. oh well gotta have some limiter for it we would have a new broken Card.
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Siulzen on August 05, 2014, 04:33:38 PM
Early box openings happened and now the entire set has been spoiled. :D

The wikia has already added everything, so out of convenience I'll just link to the BT17 page:

http://cardfight.wikia.com/wiki/Booster_Set_17:_Blazing_Perdition


Probably my favorite set in a long time. Outside of the obvious reason of course. ;D
Title: Re: BT17 Spoilers and Discussion
Post by: Meruem on August 07, 2014, 10:24:06 PM
love hate relationship for me, some good cards like Prominence Core, Vortex and LJ legions but AqF and GB are pretty mediocre =( well, all cards are out officially with good quality pics in the wikia, i hope the game is updated soon! can't wait to add Law Trumpeter and Coronagal to my Liberator deck *-*