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Cardfight!! Vanguard => CF!!V Discussion => Topic started by: WaiterFang on May 15, 2014, 07:37:44 PM
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With so many people using legions, limit breaks, and persona blasts, are you still willing to run decks that use megablasts as its main vanguard skill?
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with all OP cards in the game now mega doesnt seem like much of a power anymore.
do some of them are extremely deadly. (still vampir)
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NEVER! :P
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
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with the new legion witch , maybe still vampir is a great choice
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with the new legion witch , maybe still vampir is a great choice
And if Witch have a Silent Tom clone..
Darn it, I already said too much.
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Megablast was the 1st game special skill. It is extrely hard to pull and the skill it gives are too poor in front of Lbers and LMers...
P.S.: Yes Stil Vampire may be the only one worth to run.
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Yes they're really underpowered in today's game, but for me they are still the coolest skill.
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With so many people using legions, limit breaks, and persona blasts, are you still willing to run decks that use megablasts as its main vanguard skill?
lol ive trolled with megablast units for narukami running no units that use any cb starting vg being Corosant and running 4 of that crits(Malevolant Djinn) that u shuve to soul to give 3k and using its megablast with Daimu [ACT](VC):[Soul Blast (8) & Counter Blast (5)] Choose one of your opponent's rear-guards for each of your "Narukami" rear-guards, and retire them. well its not a breakride deck its just 4 Daimu 4 shaper because i run erad g2s/g1s aka Ouei's which set off Shaper br skill. to retire alittle/stall b4 u megablast even tho they arent needed. with 4 Chou's to shuve em to soul to get soul bigger and i pulled it off with Daimu lets say on my 4th turn. cause i rode vowing br daimu at 5 dmg shuved chou's to soul with other ones etc after u soul charge on main then swarm 5 rgs and megablast there goes there field lol.
I also still troll Mr. Invincible with Demon Eater and Stil Vampir lol. never gets old. i also tech in 1-2 no life death anchor to use its LB so that turn after if i dont win that turn ride invincible or use a rg vampir/demon eater megablast or a rg Invincible i still win cardfights with those lol even vs legions etc. beat raizors a few times with that deck lol. and metalborg once.
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hmm... i think a well made Amaterasu, Stil Vampir or Invincible Man Deck could even defeat a Legion deck if used the right way, and Amaterasus Megablast is actually quite easy to pull if have all preparations done. Just put 3 Amaterasu at the front row and attack with all three or just two of them a rg and you got 5 new Cards on Hand.
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Absolutely. I may even combine a sc-based deck with another clan just to get off the "Right" mega-blasts. There are a few strong ones, but most aren't as useful as they once were to be honest. I'd even add legion just to SC quicker (I.E riding over a legion unit = +2 soul) while with so many unflippers released it's more feasible then ever.
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Currently I don't use megablast, but...I'd use them again for sure. Especially Stil Vampyr...loved that card, and megablasts are fun :P
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maybe...cause i've never used one before
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maybe...cause i've never used one before
Really? You never used megablast? When did you starter vanguard? o.o
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I guess I'll ask this question. If there was a 11k Megablast unit. Would you use it?
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I guess I'll ask this question. If there was a 11k Megablast unit. Would you use it?
Depends on the MB skill.
But I most likely not gonna use it because I don't like how they (most of the time) can only be used once.
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I wish Megablasts were worth it. Unfortunately, most Megablasts weren't even worth it when they were introduced. The one's that are useful are: Lohengrin, Amaterasu, Stil Vampyr, and Feather Palace.
Lohengrin: Not at all because of his Megablast. This guy was used back in the day for a deck based around the Royal Paladin cards that gained power for soul. In the 10k meta, they were able to form consistent 20k rows all game from the midgame, making him quite formidable. As the game moved towards 11k, even though he could form 21k columns, it was more difficult, and Lohengrin finally fell out of being competitively viable when Season 3's power creep hit.
Amaterasu: Has nothing to do with the Megablast, like Lohengrin. Arguably still the best boss in Oracle Think Tank. Her Soulcharge skill has great synergy with the Magus units and Silent Tom, making for what is arguably the best OTT deck currently, and one of the only competitive midgame decks in the current English meta.
Stil Vampyr: Actually has to do with the Megablast. It can turn out being similar to a 1-turn Glory Maelstrom skill, mixed with the Limit Break of Zeal, with a -1 to your opponent's field topping it off. Of course, if there's no Grade 0 to target, it'll likely whiff, as its a Megablast cost for Zeal's Limit Break...
Feather Palace: As unlikely as you are to get it off, each damage equates to around 1.5 of cards. On the rare occasion that this actually goes off, you're gaining approximately 7.5 cards in advantage, which is quite a lot. You're not even restricted from using Counterblast skills, because Angel Feather's non-Celestial swaps effectively unflip damage.
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I guess I'll ask this question. If there was a 11k Megablast unit. Would you use it?
Well, as it's was just stated above...it'd depend on the MB skill. But, I would love an 11k megablast tho.
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I guess I'll ask this question. If there was a 11k Megablast unit. Would you use it?
I think the important Point of a Megablast unit isn't the power but its skill, so it doesn't matter even if a crossride MB Comes out if the skill of that Card is bad nobody would use it.
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Personally, I'd love if they started making more megablasts. And I think that if that happened, they should be really strong, compared to the old MB's from S1. Considering all the new stuff that is.
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There is actually a GP megablaster, but that skill isn't really that good... it just lets the vg get +1 critical
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There is actually a GP megablaster, but that skill isn't really that good... it just lets the vg get +1 critical
Yes, I know. I am mostly talking about the stuff from S3 and after. If you consider those, new megablasters should be pretty strong.
They're practically Ultimate Breaks that require unused cb's and a good ammount of soul.
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yeah but such a great cost just to get crit+1 for the rest of the game that is going to end in 1 or 2 turns anyway isn't really worth it
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yeah but such a great cost just to get crit+1 for the rest of the game that is going to end in 1 or 2 turns anyway isn't really worth it
Agravain was a bad card imo anyway.
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but man i hope an 'invincible man' Crossride Comes out someday
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but man i hope an 'invincible man' Crossride Comes out someday
That'd be hilarious.
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lol so true i wonder what his Name would be maybe 'strongest man in universe, Invincible Man' lol, they are going to have not enough good names for all cards
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lol so true i wonder what his Name would be maybe 'strongest man in universe, Invincible Man' lol, they are going to have not enough good names for all cards
Well, a crossride for a megablaster would be bad imo. You'd either choose to not use the megablast so you can use the crossride skill, which of course would require a cb cost in most cases. Even if LB wasn't cb, another skill would be. By using the megablast, you'd need a heal in order to use the crossrides skill...sooo
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lol so true i wonder what his Name would be maybe 'strongest man in universe, Invincible Man' lol, they are going to have not enough good names for all cards
Well, a crossride for a megablaster would be bad imo. You'd either choose to not use the megablast so you can use the crossride skill, which of course would require a cb cost in most cases. Even if LB wasn't cb, another skill would be. By using the megablast, you'd need a heal in order to use the crossrides skill...sooo
You know there are actually many Cards in NG that turn Cards in the damage Zone face up
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lol so true i wonder what his Name would be maybe 'strongest man in universe, Invincible Man' lol, they are going to have not enough good names for all cards
Well, a crossride for a megablaster would be bad imo. You'd either choose to not use the megablast so you can use the crossride skill, which of course would require a cb cost in most cases. Even if LB wasn't cb, another skill would be. By using the megablast, you'd need a heal in order to use the crossrides skill...sooo
You know there are actually many Cards in NG that turn Cards in the damage Zone face up
I know, but that doesn't apply to every clan.
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lol so true i wonder what his Name would be maybe 'strongest man in universe, Invincible Man' lol, they are going to have not enough good names for all cards
Well, a crossride for a megablaster would be bad imo. You'd either choose to not use the megablast so you can use the crossride skill, which of course would require a cb cost in most cases. Even if LB wasn't cb, another skill would be. By using the megablast, you'd need a heal in order to use the crossrides skill...sooo
You know there are actually many Cards in NG that turn Cards in the damage Zone face up
I know, but that doesn't apply to every clan.
Yeah but that does apply to NG and using invincible man so it is ok i think
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
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I have never touched a Megablast and most likely never will
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I have never touched a Megablast and most likely never will
If it was still season 1 (no legion nor LB4) , would you? ;D
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Nah, even then I wouldnt.
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Nah, even then I wouldnt.
Point taken... :-X
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I guess I'll ask this question. If there was a 11k Megablast unit. Would you use it?
depends on its skill...i started vg when LB comes out...
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
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anyway why did you asked this question to us O.o
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hmm... i think a well made Amaterasu, Stil Vampir or Invincible Man Deck could even defeat a Legion deck if used the right way, and Amaterasus Megablast is actually quite easy to pull if have all preparations done. Just put 3 Amaterasu at the front row and attack with all three or just two of them a rg and you got 5 new Cards on Hand.
lucius do you even think that you can beat legion with these units ??? ??? you will never do it oh yeah right you can you them with newbie's xD
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Nah, even then I wouldnt.
lol then what does you like the most ??? ???
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hmm... i think a well made Amaterasu, Stil Vampir or Invincible Man Deck could even defeat a Legion deck if used the right way, and Amaterasus Megablast is actually quite easy to pull if have all preparations done. Just put 3 Amaterasu at the front row and attack with all three or just two of them a rg and you got 5 new Cards on Hand.
lucius do you even think that you can beat legion with these units ??? ??? you will never do it oh yeah right you can you them with newbie's xD
If you know how to use them you could because you see, if you use Stil Vampir skill against Legion your Opponent can't use both the G2 and G3 as vg again.
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hmm... i think a well made Amaterasu, Stil Vampir or Invincible Man Deck could even defeat a Legion deck if used the right way, and Amaterasus Megablast is actually quite easy to pull if have all preparations done. Just put 3 Amaterasu at the front row and attack with all three or just two of them a rg and you got 5 new Cards on Hand.
lucius do you even think that you can beat legion with these units ??? ??? you will never do it oh yeah right you can you them with newbie's xD
If you know how to use them you could because you see, if you use Stil Vampir skill against Legion your Opponent can't use both the G2 and G3 as vg again.
lol like doing that our opponents can again use legion :P
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hmm... i think a well made Amaterasu, Stil Vampir or Invincible Man Deck could even defeat a Legion deck if used the right way, and Amaterasus Megablast is actually quite easy to pull if have all preparations done. Just put 3 Amaterasu at the front row and attack with all three or just two of them a rg and you got 5 new Cards on Hand.
lucius do you even think that you can beat legion with these units ??? ??? you will never do it oh yeah right you can you them with newbie's xD
If you know how to use them you could because you see, if you use Stil Vampir skill against Legion your Opponent can't use both the G2 and G3 as vg again.
lol like doing that our opponents can again use legion :P
That is a Problem in and of itself too, but Stil Vampir is still quite useful to give the finishing blow to your opponent
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hmm... i think a well made Amaterasu, Stil Vampir or Invincible Man Deck could even defeat a Legion deck if used the right way, and Amaterasus Megablast is actually quite easy to pull if have all preparations done. Just put 3 Amaterasu at the front row and attack with all three or just two of them a rg and you got 5 new Cards on Hand.
lucius do you even think that you can beat legion with these units ??? ??? you will never do it oh yeah right you can you them with newbie's xD
If you know how to use them you could because you see, if you use Stil Vampir skill against Legion your Opponent can't use both the G2 and G3 as vg again.
lol like doing that our opponents can again use legion :P
That is a Problem in and of itself too, but Stil Vampir is still quite useful to give the finishing blow to your opponent
nope until when you try to use stil vampir skill your opponents will finish you xD mostly nova legion
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
but angel feathers is strong also :) taking cards from damage its cool i am waiting for angel feathers Legion xD
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
but angel feathers is strong also :) taking cards from damage its cool i am waiting for angel feathers Legion xD
Though it truly is helpful that there are Cards like ergodiel or that Hospital megablaster, They all have to hit the Opponent for their skills.
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
but angel feathers is strong also :) taking cards from damage its cool i am waiting for angel feathers Legion xD
Though it truly is helpful that there are Cards like ergodiel or that Hospital megablaster, They all have to hit the Opponent for their skills.
but its not useful our opponents will guard the attacks
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
but angel feathers is strong also :) taking cards from damage its cool i am waiting for angel feathers Legion xD
Though it truly is helpful that there are Cards like ergodiel or that Hospital megablaster, They all have to hit the Opponent for their skills.
but its not useful our opponents will guard the attacks
Thats true too, but if you do it right you can beat your Opponent with them.
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
but angel feathers is strong also :) taking cards from damage its cool i am waiting for angel feathers Legion xD
Though it truly is helpful that there are Cards like ergodiel or that Hospital megablaster, They all have to hit the Opponent for their skills.
but its not useful our opponents will guard the attacks
Thats true too, but if you do it right you can beat your Opponent with them.
thats also true even our opponents cant guard all of them :)
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
but angel feathers is strong also :) taking cards from damage its cool i am waiting for angel feathers Legion xD
Though it truly is helpful that there are Cards like ergodiel or that Hospital megablaster, They all have to hit the Opponent for their skills.
but its not useful our opponents will guard the attacks
Thats true too, but if you do it right you can beat your Opponent with them.
Works best with Metatron + pegasi + the G1 Celestial able to return for OP RG's if pushed to 5 damage in early game. Just statin' a possible strategy. I for once have used Crimson Metatron and the skill works wonders with the pegasi, narell and danielle. OP rg's are a result with 5+ times recycling from damage zone.
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Before saying something, did anyone watched the replay Mad Legion (standard issue.)
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Before saying something, did anyone watched the replay Mad Legion (standard issue.)
no what is that mad legion? xd should i need to watch that
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I'd be willing to use a megablast themed deck
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never again...-_-
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Only 2 are worth it. Still Vamp and CEO Amaterasu.
CEO has to hit though. Still can make your opponents vanguard a grade 0 if he manages to have one.
So only for fun I will touch Still Vamp. Ama... well maybe to mix with Still Vamp but odds are I won't.
The Hospital from Angel Feather works too! ;D
Though his skill truly is op, you have to hit your opponents vg for it and i don't think there would be someone dumb enough to not guard that
It's all on the gameplay tho. You could cripple your opponents hand or make them overguard. It's on the manipulation.
you got a point there
Well if you want to do that you have to have an aggressive early game then, which is not really the strength of Angel Feather
but angel feathers is strong also :) taking cards from damage its cool i am waiting for angel feathers Legion xD
Though it truly is helpful that there are Cards like ergodiel or that Hospital megablaster, They all have to hit the Opponent for their skills.
but its not useful our opponents will guard the attacks
It's all about pressure if you apply it correctly they are either going to deplete their hand size completely or waste cards filling the rearguard circle.
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Well lets say if game would be in S1 and no uptated then yes I would use it again mostly CEO Amaterasu or then Vortex Dragon.But right now like vanguard is I wouldn't use them.
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Some megablasts suck and some are pretty awesome . Example Steal Vampir's megablast has been replaced with The new witch Legion Card :P