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Battle area => Community => Deck Discussion => Topic started by: kaidoujin on July 08, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
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This is a more experimental deck with anything. I don't expect it to be properly playable for awhile, depending on what new support this subclan ends up getting in the future.
The general idea/strategy behind this deck is pretty simple, albeit rather chance reliant. Use genesis to build up soul in early-mid game, then use Shadow Paladin's soulblast skills along with Fianna to set off the Grade 0 swap mechanic during late-game and finish off with Rias's legion. While it sounds basic on paper, there are a lot of contradictory elements to the deck, mostly stemming from the use of multiple clans.
Anyway though, here's the card list. I dunno if adding their skills was gratuitous or not, but it kind of helps me explain more where I'm coming from with this thing.
Grade 0
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(Sha) Witch of Banquet, Lir - 1
- Starter, if in legion, move to soul when an attack hits a vanguard the same turn this unit boosted, call 2 separate G0s from your deck to RC. One glaring problem here is that the Forerunner skill is clan restricted, so if you misride onto a Genesis you can't call Lir from soul. Unfortunately, there's not too much you can do about that other than running a complete vanilla starter or using a trigger. In this situation, however, if you soulblast Lir, and return her from the drop zone to the deck when you legion, you could be able to eventually draw and then call her if you want to use her skill that badly.
(Sha) Witch of Goats, Medb - 4
- Stand. When placed on RC, if the number of G0 RGs your opponent has is 2 or more and you have a "witch" vanguard, unflip 1 and SC 1. Use Lir's skill with these for some extra soul.
(Gen) Lemon Witch, Limonccino - 4
- Crit.
(Gen) Large Pot Witch, Laurie - 4
- Heal.
Grade 1
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(Sha) Precious Stone Witch, Derna - 4
- SB 1 when called to RC, if you have a "witch" vanguard, choose one of your opponent's RGs, and they swap it with a G0 from their drop zone.
(Sha) Witch of Persuit, Sekuana - 2
- Retire one "witch" RG, if legion is active and your opponent has two or more G0 RGs, your opponent's vanguard gets -5K power until turn end.
(Gen) Witch of Cats, Cumin - 4
- SC 1 when placed on VC or RC if you have a genesis vanguard. Not optimal, but Genesis is pretty lacking in clan-unrestricted soul gainers in general so you kind of have to take what you can get.
(Gen) Witch of Strawberries, Framboise - 4
- Perf. Interestingly enough, it doesn't seem to be clan-restricted. Reading the card's text, it doesn't seem to be a typo in CFA either.
Grade 2
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(Sha) Inspection Witch, Deidre - 2
- Legion with Rias. SB 1 when called to RC, if you have a "witch" vanguard, choose one of your opponent's RGs, and they swap it with a G0 from their drop zone. Essentially a grade 2 Derna.
(Sha) Reality Witch, Famm - 2
- Legion with Fianna. Gets +3k when attacking if you have a "witch" vanguard.
(Sha) Witch of Attraction, Adora - 4
- Especial CB 1 "witch" when this unit's attack hits a vanguard. Choose one of your opponent's RGs, they check top 5, and swap that RG with a G0 from the check.
(Gen) Witch of Golden Eagles, Jasmine - 3
- Legion with Fennel. CB 1 when called to RC, SC 3, and this unit gets +3k until turn end.
Grade 3
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(Sha) Cultic Witch, Rias - 3
- Legion with Deidre. CB 2 to choose one of your opponent's RGs, they check top 5, and swap that RG with a G0 from the check. On legion, retire one RG, and your opponent's vanguard gets -5k for each G0 RG on their field until turn end. Ideally used as a game ender.
(Sha) Dazzling Witch, Fianna - 3
- Legion with Famm. Retire one RG if your opponent has 2 or more G0 RGs, and draw 2 cards. CB 2 if in legion to choose two of your opponent's RGs, they check top 10, and swap those RGs with G0s from the check.
(Gen) Witch of Sea Eagles, Fennel - 2
- Legion with Jasmine. CB 1 on ride to SC 3. SB 3 on legion to check top 5, choose two "witch" units, reveal them, then add them to your hand. I don't really see an instance in which this legion skill would be useful for this deck, when the soul is being used for other units and can is built up much slower than in a full Genesis deck. Considering swapping these out for more of Fianna/Rias, since Jasmine has almost the exact same SC skill and with a temporary power boost to boot, which is the only thing I end up using Fennel for in testing.
But, yeah. I know this deck is kind of a mess, but with the limited selection of unrestricted Genesis witches and the limited selection of Shadow Paladin witches in general this is the best I can think of. It really is a "just for fun" sort of build. I tested it out once against my friend's Megacolony deck, and it was...a very unique fight. I think I need to test it out in a few more games before I can really tell if this is playable or not. Very excited to see where witches end up going in both clans, to say the least.
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I love mixed decks, but they can be very hard if you don't balance them properly.
Like the Starter...
Since you are running Lir, you still need to ride a Shadow Paladin over it for it to move to a Rearguard circle. Looking at your deck you have more Genesis units then shadow Paladin units, which the chances of being able to move Lir is pretty difficult in general.
Triggers...
I would also recommend just sticking to one set of clan triggers (Shadow Paladin). Since if you had both sets (Genesis and Shadow Paladin) you would need to put cards from both clans on the field instead of just one.
I really don't see a point to Cumin since half of the time your usually gonna have a Shadow Paladin vanguard like Rias and Fiana. So maybe you can replace it with a Shadow Paladin unit to be able to get Lir skill of easier and make full use of the skill.
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Agreed. I had a friend with the same problem. If your main vg is gonna' be an SP your FVG should also be an SP as said.
For grade 0 i think you better remove limonccino and Laurie and add SP crit and heals instead.
For grade 1 in my opinion remove a few cat witch and 1 or so Framboise for a few Arianrhod. She makes a great 'first turn' vg
For grade 2 maybe exchange an adora for a famm since your opponent most of the times read the cards' skills before deciding to guard or not to guard.
Grade 3s are pretty much fine
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Hey, thanks to the both of your for your suggestions. Going off of what you guys recommended, I made these changes -
- Swapped Laurie and Limonccino for Milkre and Grim Revenger (which, I assume will not have too many adverse effects on the deck. There isn't a second SP crit yet, and this deck doesn't seem like it'd be suited well for rainbow triggers).
- Removed Cumin, added 3 Arianrhod and 1 Sekuana. I kept the Framboise count the same, just because I prefer running four perfs.
- Swapped 1 Adora for a Famm.
For now, this deck is largely more SP-based than Genesis. Until more unrestricted Genesis witches are released, this is something that I don't really see changing. Again, thanks for you guys' help.
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Hey, thanks to the both of your for your suggestions. Going off of what you guys recommended, I made these changes -
- Swapped Laurie and Limonccino for Milkre and Grim Revenger (which, I assume will not have too many adverse effects on the deck. There isn't a second SP crit yet, and this deck doesn't seem like it'd be suited well for rainbow triggers).
- Removed Cumin, added 3 Arianrhod and 1 Sekuana. I kept the Framboise count the same, just because I prefer running four perfs.
- Swapped 1 Adora for a Famm.
For now, this deck is largely more SP-based than Genesis. Until more unrestricted Genesis witches are released, this is something that I don't really see changing. Again, thanks for you guys' help.
No Problem.Always glad to help ;D
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you need break ride
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you need break ride
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...You honestly don't have a single clue how this deck works, do you?