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Sandy:
The only thing I shall say upon this, is that I hope that the new RP's aren't going to be Seekers, because if it's a new archetype, that means there'll be new archetypes (eventually) everywhere else, which I'd be happy to see. Also, wouldn't the above conversation/debate fit better in an anime discussion instead of a discussion about trial decks?

[ER] Patrickzzz:

--- Quote from: AloisTrancy on October 05, 2014, 12:04:16 AM ---Jesus fuck, no offense, but that's a dumb reason.
This is the same problem with people hating ZeXal
or hating GX
or hating 5D's
People do this all the time, and they're almost always fucking wrong.
Wait for the season to start.
Wait for it to get a few episodes in.
Give. It. Time.
Don't Judge until we've truly seen what it's going to be like

We have a new head director, who just so happens to be the same person who created some of the best parts of Season One.
Remember episode 23, when Ren first showed up? That was her.
Remember the first full fight between Kai and Ren, with the End's reveal and PBO's right after? Also her.
Remember Misaki's triumph over Asaka and the birth of Tsukuyomi's card stack? This was her as well.

Our new director looks promising. We've thrown out the old worn cast for the most part and introduced a new one, which has promise. A new clan and a new skill, things are looking up. I wouldn't be surprised if, for the first time since this anime started, we had a season better than season one.

Give it a chance before you decide to bash it.

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I get your point but people are allowed to have bad first impressions, promising to you doesn't mean promising to everyone. And most people are giving it a chance, and no one is bashing anything.

AloisTrancy:

--- Quote from: Sandy on October 05, 2014, 12:23:57 AM ---The only thing I shall say upon this, is that I hope that the new RP's aren't going to be Seekers, because if it's a new archetype, that means there'll be new archetypes (eventually) everywhere else, which I'd be happy to see. Also, wouldn't the above conversation/debate fit better in an anime discussion instead of a discussion about trial decks?

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Sorry, I just saw someone else bringing it up and giving it bad remarks already, and it annoyed me.


--- Quote from: [MK Paradox]Patrickzzz on October 05, 2014, 12:26:43 AM ---I get your point but people are allowed to have bad first impressions, promising to you doesn't mean promising to everyone. And most people are giving it a chance, and no one is bashing anything.

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No. No they are not. I don't know what you mean by "most people" and "no one is bashing anything" but I've already seen plenty of hate for both the character designs, the lack of Aichi or Kai being the main character, and general bad assumptions about the new season.

Bad first impressions are fine if they have a good basis. But when we haven't so much as seen one episode of the new season, there's no basis to go off of. If you make your first impression solely off of the appearance of the new characters or lack of old ones, you're going to be blind to how good the show actually is.

Being 'prepared for the worst' isn't how you come to like a show. It's how you ruin your ability to like one before it even begins.

Cherry:

--- Quote from: Sandy on October 05, 2014, 12:23:57 AM ---The only thing I shall say upon this, is that I hope that the new RP's aren't going to be Seekers, because if it's a new archetype, that means there'll be new archetypes (eventually) everywhere else, which I'd be happy to see. Also, wouldn't the above conversation/debate fit better in an anime discussion instead of a discussion about trial decks?

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Right now, it seems that we're starting without archetype-focused releases. I have to say, I'm a tad disappointed that we're not expanding on Seekers anymore since lord knows they could really use an extra push for non-Thing Saver decks. Though, at the same time, I'm rather happy I feel at liberty to make a deck that doesn't require certain named units and that having non-archetyped cards feels better than a tech.

If we get archetypes eventually, I can only pray it won't be as stupidly standardized as the onslaught of Liberators and Eradicators were in the beginning.

[ER] Patrickzzz:


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--- Quote from: [MK Paradox]Patrickzzz on October 05, 2014, 12:26:43 AM ---I get your point but people are allowed to have bad first impressions, promising to you doesn't mean promising to everyone. And most people are giving it a chance, and no one is bashing anything.

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No. No they are not. I don't know what you mean by "most people" and "no one is bashing anything" but I've already seen plenty of hate for both the character designs, the lack of Aichi or Kai being the main character, and general bad assumptions about the new season.

Bad first impressions are fine if they have a good basis. But when we haven't so much as seen one episode of the new season, there's no basis to go off of. If you make your first impression solely off of the appearance of the new characters or lack of old ones, you're going to be blind to how good the show actually is.

Being 'prepared for the worst' isn't how you come to like a show. It's how you ruin your ability to like one before it even begins.

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No, it doesn't ruin anything. Ofc you can judge a anime by the character design. It's a normal thing to do, it's not like i'm making a definite opnion on it, but the looks of an anime is what gives you the first impression you don't watch every anime to have a impression about it. And besides haven't you ever thought an anime sucked at first and then found out you actually liked it? I think the design for this season is a little weird and it doesn't really match the one we had so far, but i still have hopes for this season and my opnion of the design won't "ruin" my ability to like it. I had bad first impressions in several animes and was surprised in a good way.

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