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Magus TSS:

--- Quote from: HunterSerge on May 08, 2014, 11:15:16 PM ---No doubt that its stupid and unfair. Worse than Sin Buster, that's a bit far, as you can still use anything and everything available to you to help you stop both Mega Flare attacks.
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I dunno to be honest. I won't deny it's unfair to have a constraint crit and have a Descendant like rear guard to stand your vanguard with far easier cost. I can't agree it's worse then Sin Buster even if the Raizer is generally more consistent. Especially with DP risky mind set.


--- Quote from: HunterSerge on May 08, 2014, 11:15:16 PM ---However, anyone who thinks that Bushiroad DIDN'T intend this, or that an errata is coming any time soon, is seriously kidding themselves. They had to make the conscious decision to make this ruling.
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This I do agree with. Especially in a time the game is trying to grow to a new level of game play. The best that could happen is that everyone runs Raizers in the next official real life tournament and then they ban the cat entirely if it's in everyone deck. (poor Barcgal) But I seriously doubt that is going to happen.

Siulzen:
It isn't really a loophole, but rather a clear example of how having two different grade vanguards in the vanguard circle can interact with certain effects that affect either vanguard.

If it stands one of the two, it stands both of them. That's pretty clear to me as the two vanguards are after all linked together, so if there's any effect that affects one of them it'll affect both of them barring Power gain and boosting, which is stated in the rules that you have to choose one of the two.

Another interpretation would be Warsickle, who has to choose a vanguard to stun, stunning the G3 vanguard. Even though the G2 vanguard isn't stunned, you're still unable to stand the two vanguards because one of them is stunned.

Just another interesting aspect of Legion that can be taken advantage of if they design more cards that affect a grade 2 vanguard.

So it isn't a case of the rule being stupid, but rather that Cat Butler's interaction with Legion is stupid.

Ninja Master Z:
A simple errata on butler cat would fix this
just tack on [If you control one unit as a vanguard]

Magus TSS:

--- Quote from: Ninja Master Z on May 11, 2014, 07:43:21 PM ---A simple errata on butler cat would fix this
just tack on [If you control one unit as a vanguard]

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Except it's not likely to happen unless they dominate the meta game in japan because if they had any intention to errata it now it would have already gotten errata'd before the ruling was revealed.

[MK Hunter] E.T:

--- Quote from: Magus TSS on May 11, 2014, 07:53:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ninja Master Z on May 11, 2014, 07:43:21 PM ---A simple errata on butler cat would fix this
just tack on [If you control one unit as a vanguard]

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Except it's not likely to happen unless they dominate the meta game in japan because if they had any intention to errata it now it would have already gotten errata'd before the ruling was revealed.

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Indeed. Also facing that Strong Restanding Critical Loop it still gives me creeps... Anyway I believe that banning it is a little extremely it would be better either Restrict Cat to 2 or Mega Flare 2 like Descentant.

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