Double Teaming

[Sirvat]

As you all know Double Teaming is a common practice on Cardfight Area(CFA) at the moment. Double Teaming is when a player is on more then one team usually two, but that's not the case for CFA as the same people are on 4-5 different teams. There have been many complaints from people who disagree with it, and there have been people who do agree with it. I personally don't agree to it.

I think Double Teaming is one of the reasons why team battles aren't as diverse and fun as they use to be. Every team has the same players instead of actually looking for new players who are actually interested in the game and learning to play. In my opinion Double Teaming really kills the point of even having a team. How can you be competitive if the same people are on different teams or in another team just under a different name. How can you show your team is one of the best? Double Teaming is even stopping some people from joining teams.

I was thinking that we as community/team leader can come together to limit the amount of Double Teaming, or just get rid of it. As stated this is my personal opinion. Don't you guys think it will be funnier if there wasn't as much Double Teaming? We could even have a team ranking system in which teams get sleeve prizes at the end of the month for being number 1. Thoughts?


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[Izayanagi]

I find it sad that this Multi teaming thing has gotten out of control like it did. We gotten complacent in our own little community and stopped recruiting people with talent, and would rather be on 3 teams with the same 5 or 6 people. Not only has this killed any sort of competitive spirit that was around at a certain point, but like sirvat said, it just killed the whole point of teams or fighting as a team. We are at a point where we have 5 or 6 teams with the same core members and another few with some other core members. At this point there is only about 4 real teams in cfa and the others are just pure copies/regroups/branches with only 1 or 2 members being swapped. We should put an end t this or try to do damage control as much as we can, as fast as we can.

[Ren «Я»]

I agree with the whole "Double Teaming is when a player is on more then one team usually two, but that's not the case for CFA as the same people are on 4-5 different teams. There have been many complaints from people who disagree with it, and there have been people who do agree with it. I personally don't agree to it. "

4-5 is too much and 1-2 at most seems fair and stops the confusion and keeps TB's easier to have since not everyone is on every team xD

"I was thinking that we as community/team leader can come together to limit the amount of Double Teaming, or just get rid of it. As stated this is my personal opinion. Don't you guys think it will be funnier if there wasn't as much Double Teaming? We could even have a team ranking system in which teams get sleeve prizes at the end of the month for being number 1. Thoughts?"

Thoughts = We could even have a team ranking system in which teams get sleeve prizes at the end of the month for being number 1.

Totally wanna do this ^ lel

[Aeon]

Double teaming defeats the purpose of teams in the first place. I see no problem with being a last effort to make a TB to have a team you sub for, but DTing is extremely inconvenient for teams with the same members.

[Aeon]

I mean, literally when you're on a team, you all train together and try to be the objectively best team in whatever you're doing. If everyone has the same members, what is the point?

[ryujiknight]

I don’t see any problem with double teaming, the community is small, if it isn’t really hurting anyone or causing any problem (which by 'my' knowledge) which it hasn’t, there shouldn’t be problem, again the community is small double teaming isn’t that big of a deal, if your team doesn’t want to double team don’t do it, but you shouldn’t have to limit or ban other teams from doing it.

Side Note

I didn’t read any posts b4 i posted this one.

[Nobody]

Double Teaming (Keyword: Double, not multi, multiple, whatever have you. Double.) is honestly fine, if the person doing the Double Teaming isn't wise about it and only does it for the sake of it rather than having a normal goal then why ban it over a black sheep? Same applies to leaders that turn their teams into carbon copies of other teams.

There are far more pluses to Double Teaming than there are minuses. Sure, you start fighting the same people over and over but the amount of active teams isn't all that great anyways so you'll end up fighting the same people at one point or another. One shouldn't double team just to get double the Team Battles or because they got bored of one team (in which case why not just quit the team) and then focus the majority of your attention on only one team. If someone's going to double team they should do it for sake of being part of a bigger group of people to hang out with (or in this case, two different groups), or having an active group of friends at all times during their up hours, or just trying to help a team out by giving them more than 3 members, for example.

What you do is make sure that there aren't more than 3 people double teaming from the same team in your team, and prevent people from joining 3-5 teams at once, and then everything is fine, teams aren't here just to be Team Battle Machines and fighting the same people is unavoidable, this community's member count isn't all that high, people go inactive due to reasons and teams die eventually just like everything sooner or later. Why contain a person inside a single group if they can join another and have fun there too? Subs are a thing, multiaccounting is a thing, you'd have to stop that too and considering the amount of members that aren't anywhere on the forum i dont think the later is going to be that easy.

[Aeon]

The sad part is, while double teaming is destroying the community, a majority of players are doing it. I think it needs to stop for the good of us all, even them. They don't realize how it's effecting the community in a negative manner.

[Tomuhara]

I feel as though double teaming should be allowed. Running my teams as long as i have i never closed out the options for my team members to gain knowledge and gain multiple experiences through different outlets. i feel double teaming allows my members to understand other peoples view points and give them bigger voices in their community so that it can form an even greater community. At the end of the day it is just a game (and people act like its a life or death ordeal) and in my opinion people should not be restricted to just having to be on one team. This game is to get connected with multiple people around the world and to gain different experiences,not just stick to your clique.

[Cipher Izanagi]

This isn't anything new. Complaining about people double teaming or multi teaming while in reality it's up to the teams themselves whether they allow their members to multi team or double team or not. If it's an issue, instead of putting a community wide ban on it, and trying to enforce it... When it's ALREADY ingrained into the system, do you guys REALLY believe that'd work? To top it off, let me again say, as a team you can just decide NOT to allow your members to multi team etc.

Personally, going back even to CFC, I was brought into the Vanguard community with the idea that multi teaming was okay because it allowed more avenues for growth, more ways to actually bond and make friends, so that's why I'm okay with keeping it. Though sure, 4-5 teams is a bit. . . Much, trying to force a community to follow your rules after it's been going on for so long could have some major draw backs, especially if you try to limit it so much.

[PsyRiderDecade]

Yes...stop it so we dont see the same people on every team...in every tb

[Izayanagi]

I repeat myself, Double Teaming is fine, MULTI Teaming is a thing that got so out of control it's ridiculous. 60% of the players are on 70% of the teams. This took all of the benefit of team battling, learning from a team and all the benefits of double teaming and threw them out the window then hit em with their car.

[[T-FP]Gene]

I do not agree with double or multi teaming but i do understand our community isnt that big right now and sometimes its hard to find a tb but srsly like the other guy said its the same people in every TB nearly

[Jai Hearts]

truth i say yes lets stop it could turkey, as the guy with the oldest team on area i saw allot of times rise and fall because of multi teaming.

right now i see allot of names say it should stay but those exact names complain that they lack members and that other teams are using "there" members to much.

in the past this act was looked down on, but as some people leave the next set decided to do it so they can always have a team they control and those that failed to keep there teams alive decided to do it so they dont disband but in the end the teams just sometimes like as of late end up being literal clones of another team just with a different and someone else set as leader.

i say if we want to see this community grow if we genuinly want to see this community alive again, we stop the multi teaming and recruit brand new people and get em to training. i know this is hard but its how my team started and again oldest team in area now, never needed to disband or reform constantly active.

the option of limiting it is good too but what is the limit ? 2, 3, 50 ? whats the point of limiting if in the end we will be seeing a tb where 1 person needs to fight for both sides ?

so yea thats my taughts on it as the guy helping teams and leader of the longest running one.

[Cipher Izanagi]

And I'll repeat myself as many times as I need. Regulation is fine, but being a dictator is not. This is supposed to be a community, not a dictatorship. I agree with someone being on 5+ teams is frigging ridiculous, but forcing people to choose between just one or two, may very well cause issues. Another matter to look at is subbing as well since if you're going to start bringing double/multi teaming up as an issue, then subbing should be looked at as well. There's also the fact that it's already past the point of fixing it with no draw backs.

Bringing up the issue of the same people in nearly every TB, from what I've seen it's always the same teams so that's a rather moot point to bring up. Then again, I have my own things to worry about other than always staring at each and every TB day in and day out.

Stopping it again, let me reiterate, may cause issues with certain members with friends in multiple teams who they wish to stay with. If people are going to complain about not having members as well, limiting this altogether could very well cause teams to lose members completely, and die out because of an issue that could of been solved far earlier than now.